Blu-rays

J.Ball

Are blu-rays worth getting still?. Dvd's havent exactly left the market or even close to it and the quality isnt amazingly different between em for the difference in price.

DOC09UNAM

J.Ball wrote: »

Are blu-rays worth getting still?. Dvd's havent exactly left the market or even close to it and the quality isnt amazingly different between em for the difference in price.

Get a new tv.

whatsamsn

You can only really see the difference between a blu ray and dvd when its a cgi-ladden film.

Otherwise, you're just downloading paying over the odds for something

nomh

Think about the maintenance costs. Would you be able to take care of it properly? An animal as big as that would need a massive tank.

Daegerty

Optical storage is dead

Torrents are king

J.Ball

nomh wrote: »

Think about the maintenance costs. Would you be able to take care of it properly? An animal as big as that would need a massive tank.

I'll take that into consideration thanks

DOC09UNAM

nomh wrote: »

Think about the maintenance costs. Would you be able to take care of it properly? An animal as big as that would need a massive tank.

Animal?

Surely you mean Fish.

J.Ball

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Animal?

Surely you mean Fish.

just smile and agree

bonerm

Daegerty wrote: »

Optical storage is dead

Torrents are king

Torrents are old hat now too.

As to bluray. I think they're going to be an archaic technology soon enough (I certainly don't think they're gonna have the 10 year mainstream run that DVD had), but for the time being they're an attractive way to collect your favourite movies (and the picture itself is great - far better than dvd).

squod

Daegerty wrote: »

Torrents are king

WTF?

Quiet you

bonerm wrote: »

Torrents are old hat now too.

So what? You just have movies beamed directly into your brain then?

DOC09UNAM

Quiet you wrote: »

So what? You just have movies beamed directly into your brain then?

No, they download them other ways, obviously.

Ghost Train

betamax ftw

Biggins

J.Ball wrote: »

Are blu-rays worth getting still?. Dvd's havent exactly left the market or even close to it and the quality isnt amazingly different between em for the difference in price.

Since I stuck a 46 inch HD LED in the bedroom with 5.1 surround sound and Blu-ray player attached, I can't now watch a film on a small screen in poor 420p resolution.

The quality is exceptional and as for the sound, mind blowing on a good Blu-ray disk.
Yes there is very little now in the prices of one and the other - and its good to see too.
(No pun intended)

That said, there are old films out there that are crap on Blu-ray. They have been tried to have their resolution increased for making a few quick bucks for the film companies. Most are crap.
Unless the film is a modern one and filmed with HD cameras, expect most films to be "upped" to full HD (1080p) by software enhancement.
Most films that folk are downloading that is supposed to be HD, is in fact at 720p. Sky TV for example too are broadcasting at 720p too - they are NOT broadcasting at FULL HD 1080 resolution.
The only way at present you will get full HD is from an actual purchased Blu-ray disk.

When you do buy one and its a decent one with loads of special effects, sci-fi, gun battles, etc... between the awesome picture quality and great sound, you will never want to see a poor film again in terrible quality.

Oranage2

I just hook a USB from my laptop to my brain these days - Better get it of a reputable sourse of it can give you a few days of the crazies!!!

biko

Don't be Blue Ray, be happy.

Voodu Child

Biggins wrote: »

Since I stuck a 46 inch HD LED in the bedroom with 5.1 surround sound and Blu-ray player attached, I can't now watch a film on a small screen in poor 420 DPI resolution.

The quality is exceptional and as for the sound, mind blowing on a good Blu-ray disk.
Yes there is very little now in the prices of one and the other - and its good to see too.
(No pun intended)

That said, there are old films out there that are crap on Blu-ray. They have been tried to have their resolution increased for making a few quick bucks for the film companies. Most are crap.
Unless the film is a modern one and filmed with HD cameras, expect most films to be "upped" to full HD (1080 DPI) by software enhancement.
Most films that folk are downloading that is supposed to be HD, is in fact at 720 DPI. Sky TV for example too are broadcasting at 720dpi too - they are NOT broadcasting at FULL HD 1080 resolution.
The only way at present you will get full HD is from an actual purchased Blu-ray disk.

When you do buy one and its a decent one with loads of special effects, sci-fi, gun battles, etc... between the awesome picture quality and great sound, you will never want to see a poor film again in terrible quality.

720 DPI ? :pac:

Biggins

Voodu Child wrote: »

720 DPI ? :pac:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080206103923AAAMlne

"HD Ready" TV's for example at this resolution are a compromise for those that can't go the full way to full HD.
Obviously by your question mark, you don't understand about 720 resolution.

Captain Chaos

It's 720p, 1080i or 1080p. None of this dpi bollox, it's not a bloody inkjet printer.:D

Voodu Child

Biggins wrote: »

Unless the film is a modern one and filmed with HD cameras, expect most films to be "upped" to full HD (1080 DPI) by software enhancement.

Don't even get me started on this one :pac:

Biggins

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's 720p, 1080i or 1080p. None of this dpi bollox, it's not a bloody inkjet printer.:D

Pixels - my error.
Well spotted. Its late and I'm half drunk!

Biggins

Voodu Child wrote: »

Don't even get me started on this one :pac:

Go wann... You know you want to! :pac:

whiteboy

What's the best way to find the stuff you want online these days then, I have utorrent but I don't think I've ever actually used it.

A

Biggins

whiteboy wrote: »

What's the best way to find the stuff you want online these days then, I have utorrent but I don't think I've ever actually used it.

A

Can't be discussed here due to legal board rules - unless its genuinely free.
And there is only small amount of free HD stuff out there.

squod

Google

Voodu Child

Biggins wrote: »

Go wann... You know you want to! :pac:

Film isn't made up of square pixels so it doesnt have a 'resolution' like a digital camera. But pretty much any film stock used going back to the early days of cinema would have captured more detail than 1080p.

When they're scanning old movies to transfer them to Bluray, they usually scan them at 4k resolution (Bluray is slightly under 2k) and sometimes even 8k.

Biggins

Voodu Child wrote: »

Film isn't made up of square pixels so it doesnt have a 'resolution' like a digital camera. But pretty much any film stock used going back to the early days of cinema would have captured more detail than 1080p.

When they're scanning old movies to transfer them to Bluray, they usually scan them at 4k resolution (Bluray is slightly under 2k) and sometimes even 8k.

If thats the case (and you might be right), why are some (a lot?) older films so bad in quality when supposedly transfered to box stated HD quality for blu-ray disks?

Biggins

Ghost Train wrote: »

betamax ftw

Thought I was bad with me DPI! :pac:

Voodu Child

Biggins wrote: »

If thats the case (and you might be right), why are some (a lot?) older films so bad in quality when supposedly transfered to box stated HD quality for blu-ray disks?

The poor ones usually use an old digital scan that was done for dvd 10 years ago. The scans they did back then were good enough for dvd but not bluray.

Biggins

Voodu Child wrote: »

The poor ones usually use an old digital scan that was done for dvd 10 years ago. The scans they did back then were good enough for dvd but not bluray.

Well that explains that. They are taking them from DVD source and not from original reel film source, would that be right?

Voodu Child

Biggins wrote: »

Well that explains that. They are taking them from DVD source and not from original reel film source, would that be right?

Back in the late 90s they would have taken the film reel, scanned it at under 2k and used that to make the dvd.

Fast forward 10 years and they decide to just reuse that old scan instead of doing it again with modern equipment.

Biggins

Voodu Child wrote: »

Back in the late 90s they would have taken the film reel, scanned it at under 2k and used that to make the dvd.

Fast forward 10 years and they decide to just reuse that old scan instead of doing it again with modern equipment.

The scan being done at 2k but by the time it got to dvd it was reduced to around 420p resolution?

Duggy747

I was a bit unsure of HD when it first reared it's head years ago. "Clearer picture...............big whoop!"

But as HD is becoming more common I have to say I'm finding it harder to watch stuff in the SD format. Blu-ray films are unbelievable but you won't realise it unless you have a big enough TV and more than 2 speakers.

Transfers of old films I love more-so than new films. It gives a wierd novelty that the film looks like it wasn't made too long ago (Bladerunner & Alien are a fine example).

Films going back for as far as the eye can see have always been in a HD (or close) format, it was the quality of storage (VHS, CD, DVD, Data tapes) that had to have the film compressed. Some transfers of film are shoddily done to make a quick buck when they're transfered from a master reel and not cleaned up but when they are...................good grief.

Give it another few years, naturally HD will replace the current format.

indough

by that stage there will be at least one other format above current hd

Voodu Child

Biggins wrote: »

The scan being done at 2k but by the time it got to dvd it was reduced to around 420p resolution?

They'd have scanned at whatever resolution their scanners were at the time. in the early days of dvd that'd have been under 2k.

Pal dvd is 576p

Point is that those old scans aren't really good enough for a bluray; they weren't supposed to be. But some companied cheaped out and used them anyway.

Biggins

Voodu Child wrote: »

...Point is that those old scans aren't really good enough for a bluray; they weren't supposed to be. But some companied cheaped out and used them anyway.

Explains a lot. Quick bucks and jumping on the HD bandwagon.

indough

i think its quite expensive to rescan at the best resolution. also sometimes they dont have an original copy of the film anymore in satisfactory condition