I am a bad dart person - can I be traced

baddartperson · 05-03-2011 12:37PM #1

Hi - Its been years since I used the Dart so today I went through at Seapoint and the ticket desk was closed, I had a quick glance for a ticket machine diden't see one so I sallied forth, ticketless. However... A ticket inspector got on the train informed me that there were ticket machines at every DART station and promptly gave me a 100 euro fine which I felt was way too high so..... (and this is why I am the bad dart person) I gave a false address but a real name.

I had no ID on my so he simply wrote the ticket I politely accepted it and that was that. I deserved a fine but not one which is over half my weekly income.

So the question is... can I be traced?

Sincerely, bad dart person

Pete67 · 05-03-2011 12:45PM

Of course you can be traced given enough effort, you gave your real name, and there are cameras on the platforms of all the Dart stations, and probably in the Dart carriage too. The real question is whether anyone has the inclination to follow up.

CIE · 05-03-2011 03:16PM

DART has gone proof-of-payment now? What happened to the turnstiles; thought that Howth Junction and Bray were basically the only stations on the system without them? Even stations like Leixlip had turnstiles back in the 1980s when the commuter rail re-opened there.

This "ticket machine" game is entrapment. Also the prelude to a police state, so watch out. No allowances would be made for broken ticket machines?

(I was going to make a joke based on the O.P.'s seemingly amusing handle, especially related to not playing darts at bars and perhaps the similarly-named light rail in Dallas, Texas...but this story really made me angry. If it turns out the inspector was lying, then you have a case against the fine.)

foggy_lad · 05-03-2011 04:57PM

CIE wrote: »

DART has gone proof-of-payment now? What happened to the turnstiles; thought that Howth Junction and Bray were basically the only stations on the system without them? Even stations like Leixlip had turnstiles back in the 1980s when the commuter rail re-opened there.

This "ticket machine" game is entrapment. Also the prelude to a police state, so watch out. No allowances would be made for broken ticket machines?

(I was going to make a joke based on the O.P.'s seemingly amusing handle, especially related to not playing darts at bars and perhaps the similarly-named light rail in Dallas, Texas...but this story really made me angry. If it turns out the inspector was lying, then you have a case against the fine.)

I know for a fact that there is no ticket machine in Carlow stationsince early in January due to a single incident of wanton destruction by a local untouchable, so it is entirely possible that there was no working machine at the station where the op began their journey.

-Chris- · 05-03-2011 05:04PM

...and if he decides to challenge the fine on the basis that the ticket machine was broken/didn't exist when he went through the station, I'm sure it'd be a pretty easy thing to verify.

IamtheWalrus · 05-03-2011 05:16PM

They will send the fine to your fake address. It will then be returned to the dart people as undeliverable. This most likely happens every week and would cost more than the fine to track you down. You have heard the last of this.

PM me if this turns out not to be the case. I'd be interested to know.

AlekSmart · 05-03-2011 05:28PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

I know for a fact that there is no ticket machine in Carlow stationsince early in January due to a single incident of wanton destruction by a local untouchable, so it is entirely possible that there was no working machine at the station where the op began their journey.

A here now Foggy_Lad...you can`t come on saying things like this about Carlow,some of my best friends are from Carlow....and only the females have,thus far,proven to be "Untouchable"....c`mon man we need Names here !!!

BrianD · 05-03-2011 05:36PM

baddartperson wrote: »

Hi - Its been years since I used the Dart so today I went through at Seapoint and the ticket desk was closed, I had a quick glance for a ticket machine diden't see one so I sallied forth, ticketless. However... A ticket inspector got on the train informed me that there were ticket machines at every DART station and promptly gave me a 100 euro fine which I felt was way too high so..... (and this is why I am the bad dart person) I gave a false address but a real name.

I had no ID on my so he simply wrote the ticket I politely accepted it and that was that. I deserved a fine but not one which is over half my weekly income.

So the question is... can I be traced?

Sincerely, bad dart person

I'm always amazed with the number of people who will quickly lie on the spot to cover up their own failings.

And then we are asking our politicians to be whiter than white!

AlekSmart · 05-03-2011 05:42PM

BrianD wrote: »

I'm always amazed with the number of people who will quickly lie on the spot to cover up their own failings.

And then we are asking our politicians to be whiter than white!

Ah now BrianD,this ain`t really a baddartperson,just somebody who needs a little tenderness and understanding perhaps...and it`s not actually lying as such is it ? more like a little economy with the veracity..?

Perhaps baddartperson is a Jesuit ?

wandatowell · 05-03-2011 05:46PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

Perhaps baddartperson is a Jesuit ?

the worst kind of baddartperson IMO

AlekSmart · 05-03-2011 05:49PM

wandatowell wrote: »

the worst kind of baddartperson IMO

Perhaps,perhaps,but that may depend on your definition of "worst".........:p

goingnowhere · 05-03-2011 06:36PM

baddartperson wrote: »

Hi - Its been years since I used the Dart so today I went through at Seapoint and the ticket desk was closed, I had a quick glance for a ticket machine diden't see one so I sallied forth

So you missed the big box with the screen 2 feet from the ticket window

You deserve to get caught and I hope you do

baddartperson · 05-03-2011 08:04PM

IamtheWalrus

"They will send the fine to your fake address. It will then be returned to the dart people as undeliverable. This most likely happens every week and would cost more than the fine to track you down. You have heard the last of this."

Bitter person award...Goingnowhere - wow.... you nasty!:P

AlekSmart · 05-03-2011 08:37PM

And watabout me......? :rolleyes:

baddartperson · 05-03-2011 08:52PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

And watabout me......? :rolleyes:

sorry Alek, was just putting away my vestments. I was actually thinking "hey after such understanding remarks it would be a sin not to award a second place to ol smartee." So there ya go.

Run_to_da_hills · 05-03-2011 11:43PM

Back in the 80's my brother was caught bunking the London Undergrounds, gave a false name & address. About two weeks later he was pulled aside by station attendants who in turn handed him over to the cops. Luckily he got away with a slap on the hand with a nominal fine. He didn't do it again, this was 25 years before smart cards, CCTV, Rfid, mass surveylance and people tracking.

DWCommuter · 06-03-2011 02:00AM

Predictable.

Who got off at the last stop??:D

DWCommuter · 06-03-2011 02:03AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Back in the 80's my brother was caught bunking the London Undergrounds, gave a false name & address. About two weeks later he was pulled aside by station attendants who in turn handed him over to the cops. Luckily he got away with a slap on the hand with a nominal fine. He didn't do it again, this was 25 years before smart cards, CCTV, Rfid, mass surveylance and people tracking.

Or was it simply picking on the Irish???????:D:D:D:D:D

It happened.:o

I am a bad dart person - can I be traced

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