Tractor oil

ADDON

What engine oil do I put into my MF 165????

jeff greene

10w40

David brown

multi purpose either i.e would do engine and gearbox

aidanki

we put 15w40 engine oil in our mf168 and change in every 150hrs

any dealer will be able to give you some

ADDON

I have 10w40 semi-synthetic. Is that ok?

aidanki

ADDON wrote: »

I have 10w40 semi-synthetic. Is that ok?

save a few bob and buy regular oil, you mf165 doesn't need semi-synthetic, but it should do.............ask a mechanic about it though wouldn't be sure myself

beretta686s

im a valtra mechanic and what u need is 15w 40 but it wont refuse that 10w 40 either

aidanki

beretta686s wrote: »

im a valtra mechanic and what u need is 15w 40 but it wont refuse that 10w 40 either

10w 40 or 15w40 means virtually nothing my friend this is simply a measure of the thickness

what you need is the correct grade, grade is a bit like percentage alcohol
i.e. Universal Oil (UTTO)
Super Univeral (SUTO)
Engine Oil
Gear Oil
Transmission Fluid

the wrong grade can be associated with the following problems to name but a few
the oil can't withstand the shearing stresses in the engine and doesn't provide adequate lubrication
oil breaks down before service interval occurs and begins to burn
oil can't absorb soot in engine after a short time and doesn't keep engine clean,

never ever be fooled into thinking 10w40 or 15w40 is all that matters, its v minor compared to the grade

maidhc

aidanki wrote: »

never ever be fooled into thinking 10w40 or 15w40 is all that matters, its v minor compared to the grade

You are joking right?

candor

maidhc wrote: »

You are joking right?

The E number gives a good indication of the quality of the oil. E3 will be suitable for that engine, whereas you need E7 for a common rail engine.

aidanki

maidhc wrote: »

You are joking right?

no i'm not the Xw-Y ratings gives the temperatures that the oil is suitable for so 80w-90 will be much different to 10w-40 even if both are the same grade

read the rest of my post with regard to grade and do some googling

ADDON

aidanki wrote: »

10w 40 or 15w40 means virtually nothing my friend this is simply a measure of the thickness

what you need is the correct grade, grade is a bit like percentage alcohol
i.e. Universal Oil (UTTO)
Super Univeral (SUTO)
Engine Oil
Gear Oil
Transmission Fluid

the wrong grade can be associated with the following problems to name but a few
the oil can't withstand the shearing stresses in the engine and doesn't provide adequate lubrication
oil breaks down before service interval occurs and begins to burn
oil can't absorb soot in engine after a short time and doesn't keep engine clean,

never ever be fooled into thinking 10w40 or 15w40 is all that matters, its v minor compared to the grade

So what should I buy? Brand? Type? Grade? etc????

maidhc

aidanki wrote: »

no i'm not the Xw-Y ratings gives the temperatures that the oil is suitable for so 80w-90 will be much different to 10w-40 even if both are the same grade

read the rest of my post with regard to grade and do some googling

With respect I disagree with your understanding of "grade". The Xw-Y is the grade of the oil in my view. It relates to the viscosity of the oil. Newer engines tend to use lower viscosity oil, e.g. 5w-30, while 15w-40 will be fine in a older car or tractor engine.

An MF165 will be delighted to get an oil change in the first place, and to be honest as already stated, there isn't much it won't refuse. Just don't put in hydraulic or gearbox oil and you wont be too far off the mark.

The usual "universal oil" tends to be 10w-30, 10w-40 or 15w-40, and most stuff sold in the agri outlets is approved to the relevant Ford/MF/John Deere/ACEA standards. An MF165 will be stone deliged to get 10w-40 semi synth. It will be a superior oil to what it got first day.

aidanki

maidhc wrote: »

With respect I disagree with your understanding of "grade". The Xw-Y is the grade of the oil in my view. It relates to the viscosity of the oil. Newer engines tend to use lower viscosity oil, e.g. 5w-30, while 15w-40 will be fine in a older car or tractor engine.

An MF165 will be delighted to get an oil change in the first place, and to be honest as already stated, there isn't much it won't refuse. Just don't put in hydraulic or gearbox oil and you wont be too far off the mark.

The usual "universal oil" tends to be 10w-30, 10w-40 or 15w-40, and most stuff sold in the agri outlets is approved to the relevant Ford/MF/John Deere/ACEA standards. An MF165 will be stone deliged to get 10w-40 semi synth. It will be a superior oil to what it got first day.

i beg to disagree, i thought the same as you before i did some research

read this page here http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
and see what I refer to as grade in the table under category listed in the middle of the page CH, CE, CJ etc

have a look at a few drums of oil you have and note all the info on the label not just the Xw-Y


I think you are correct on the semi synthetic and the MF 165, however i would just ring local oil man and ask for a drum of 15w-40 engine oil, and wouldn't bother with the expense of semi synthetic oil, this is what we do for our MF168 and change it every 150hrs

see here for more info
http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=46336&highlight=grade

beretta686s

aidanki wrote: »

10w 40 or 15w40 means virtually nothing my friend this is simply a measure of the thickness

what you need is the correct grade, grade is a bit like percentage alcohol
i.e. Universal Oil (UTTO)
Super Univeral (SUTO)
Engine Oil
Gear Oil
Transmission Fluid

the wrong grade can be associated with the following problems to name but a few
the oil can't withstand the shearing stresses in the engine and doesn't provide adequate lubrication
oil breaks down before service interval occurs and begins to burn
oil can't absorb soot in engine after a short time and doesn't keep engine clean,

never ever be fooled into thinking 10w40 or 15w40 is all that matters, its v minor compared to the grade

do u think i dont know abt oil adanki ive prob adsorbed more oil than uve ever sceen,any mordern oil should be up to the job,esep an old mf 165 any modern 15w 40 is high enough spec 4 modern engines with turbos dont think ull find 1 of them on a 165 ,500hr oil change intervals no bother semi syn even better cause it has to stand up to higher stresses of common rail engines no matter what all oil absorbs carbon u ever see clean engine oil after 50 to 100 hours i think not:p