Tooway on Ka Sat, live end March

Sponge Bob

Or so I have been told. Satsig has updated

watty

Hmm nearly two months early. Interesting.

yuloni

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Sponge Bob

You were right Condi but at some stage Eutelsat decided to add Ka to the 9E slot instead of the intended Hotbird 13E slot once they moved Hotbird 7a in there and renamed it Eurobird 9a .

The Original 9E sat, Eurobird 9, was a punt on developing a news slot ....9E was originally occupied by a renamed Hotbird 2 and occupied that 9E slot between 2007 and 2009 . I remember Eutelsat trying to sell me space on it when it was Hotbird 2 and I refused seeing as it was over 10 years old and with no backup.

Hotbird 2 is still alive and just about life expired. It is squatting a slot doing nothing nowadays.

watty

Most Tooway is 13E Hotbird 6 Ka transponders, 4 spots.

The new Tooway on Ka-Sat is 9E ka.

There is Internet on 33E, but it's Ku band based (Eurobird 3)

http://www.lyngsat.com/eb3.html

not great elevation for Ireland.

There is so little capacity that even 39E was used but it's very poor here
http://www.lyngsat.com/hellas2.html

When it comes online Hylas1 will be at 33W
It's a mix of Professional TV links / Conferencing on Ku and Military comms, experiments and some Internet also on Ka
http://www.avantiplc.com/satellite-fleet/hylas-1/about-hylas-1 Small compared to Ka-Sat, maybe a bit more on it than Hotbird 6 (also hybrid Ku and Ka band).

Don't bother with http://space.skyrocket.de quite inaccurate




Some Irish Internet is also Intelsat 907 (mostly schools) 27.5W
http://www.lyngsat.com/intel907.html

Also Irish Internet on 23E
http://www.lyngsat.com/astra23.html
(Astra2Connect)


Three's NBS sat pricing was based on below market quote from Avanti on Hylas 1 (1/4 normal price?). But it didn't even launch till end of last year. Only IS907 has a proper Irish footprint, hence Three losing much money and used various different systems. Often provisioned less than the NBS spec.

yuloni

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watty

Condi wrote: »

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Absolutely correct.

Also many NBS not on Tooway.

Almost anyone selling Satellite Internet will be selling TooWay.

It still won't be Broadband and I don't believe even the new 10Mbps Tooway retail package meets NBS spec for cap and contention.

Absolutely no retail package meets NBS Satellite service specification.

NBS has not and will not deliver a single real Broadband Connection.

The Ku-band at 33° East is abysmal in Ireland. Any Tooway using it not only would need re-aligined but different Dish/ODU. Major change.
The elevation makes rain performance poor too


The Ku gear has no secondary reflector, larger dish and larger horn and waveguide than Ka gear (HB6 13E only till Hylas1 and Ka-Sat running).

13E ka band HB6 coverage


You can see it gets rubbish in west.

watty

Condi wrote: »

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Three won't pay, if there is any migration it will be for Eutelsat internal reasons. SBI and others in Ireland are only resellers. They will only re-align if paid by Viasat / Eutelsat / Tooway.

Three is losing a fortune every month on Satellite as it's costing them far more than what they put in NBS tender.

Actually despite the NBS subsidizing Three's Mast rollout they needed to do anyway, they are not getting enough voice customers (they don't make any money really from Data users), so they are making a loss in Ireland.

yuloni

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