UK freeview in Bray

Zebbedee

Will It be possible to receive uk freeview in Bray?
Low lying Bray at that.
Presumably won't get much if any signal from NI so
where to align antenna to.
Isle of man perhaps?
Polarity?

Sam Russell

Not likely. I tried to get freeview from the centre of Bray with some success. You have three chance. Blaenplwyf near Aberistwith, on ch 24, etc. Group A Horizontal polarization. Arfon, on ch 41 etc, group B Vertical. LLandonna on channel 57, group E horizontal.

The best way to try is get a wide band aerial and try each one and see which is best (if any). Then get the group aerial for that transmitter. It will not be reliable 100% of the time, no matter what. You will need the aerial as high as you can get it.

Freesat is better, and more reliable, but you will get Saorview on the back of it from Kippure and Greystones.

Good luck with it.

Zebbedee

Thats a pity. I have freesat but not terribly happy with picture
quality. Nowhere near as good as saorview.
What about wicklow town?
I've a friend there who'd like to get uk freeview.
He's about 100ft above sea level.

John mac

Zebbedee wrote: »

Thats a pity. I have freesat but not terribly happy with picture
quality. Nowhere near as good as saorview.
.

Must be something wrong with your setup.

Mr McBoatface

John mac wrote: »

Must be something wrong with your setup.

+1 on this. How have you got the box connected to the TV, Scart or HDMI. If you are using scart are you using the correct scart input on the TV ?

Zebbedee

Zebbedee wrote: »

Thats a pity. I have freesat but not terribly happy with picture
quality. Nowhere near as good as saorview.
What about wicklow town?
I've a friend there who'd like to get uk freeview.
He's about 100ft above sea level.

Arfon is possible in bray with a unix100 group b and masthead amp.
That should also get greystones or kippure saorview in via the back or side of the aerial.
Arfon is uk freeview lite but it does have itv1 hd,bbc1 hd and bbchd.

Sam Russell

Deleted User wrote: »

Arfon is possible in bray with a unix100 group b and masthead amp.
That should also get greystones or kippure saorview in via the back or side of the aerial.
Arfon is uk freeview lite but it does have itv1 hd,bbc1 hd and bbchd.

That's true, but you would need a FreeviewHD receiver for the third mux. I got Llandonna and BP in Bray, but it was not 100% reliable. This was last year, and I have not tried since. Once you decide which is the most likely, depending on your position and the local lie of the land, you have to go for it. You will need a serious aerial at as high as you can go, with a good masthead amp. You will not get the signal 100% of the time - it's a long way.

Sam Russell

Sam Russell wrote: »

That's true, but you would need a FreeviewHD receiver for the third mux. I got Llandonna and BP in Bray, but it was not 100% reliable. This was last year, and I have not tried since. Once you decide which is the most likely, depending on your position and the local lie of the land, you have to go for it. You will need a serious aerial at as high as you can go, with a good masthead amp. You will not get the signal 100% of the time - it's a long way.

If memory serves you were using a grid? the weakest wideband around.
I can't remember if you had an amp but presumably you did.
A good group B unix100 and a masthead amp powered and using a meter to find and peak the signal on arfon would do the trick.

Yes a freeviewhd decoder or tv with one built in is what the op needs for the 3 hd channels but an mpeg 4 tv will pick up the rest initially if he wants to try that first.

http://www.ukfree.tv/shutdowndetail.php?tx=SH476493

There are 18 channels currently on it.Reception is reliable in arklow,ashford,wicklow and greystones and someone here was using it north of bray near the m50.

Sam Russell

Yes, I was using a grid with an amp. I think I will try again soon. I did not try Arfon because it is Vertical. I would have had to take down the aerial to change it, but next time I will. I will try next time with a log-periodic and a meter. When I find the best, I will then go for a grouped twin aerial.

It's not my house, so I have to wait until i am asked.

JazzyJ

Deleted User wrote: »

Arfon is possible in bray with a unix100 group b and masthead amp.
That should also get greystones or kippure saorview in via the back or side of the aerial.
Arfon is uk freeview lite but it does have itv1 hd,bbc1 hd and bbchd.

I'm up in Leopardstown and am receiving Arfon about 99% of the time. I've only seen it down once for a couple of hours since the New Year.

This is using a Group A aerial and a masthead amp so its not the ideal setup. I was hoping to get Blaenplwyf - hence the Group A aerial, but this wasn't stable enough.

Would Bray Head be a problem for getting Blaenplwf down there?

Zebbedee

jobyrne30 wrote: »

+1 on this. How have you got the box connected to the TV, Scart or HDMI. If you are using scart are you using the correct scart input on the TV ?

Its a lidl silvercrest freesat receiver connected through scart. No hdmi output on it. Am only getting 79% signal intensity and approx 70% quality.
Is this likely to improve if I upgrade to a better receiver?
Any suggestions on model?
Also if I upgrade the coax from that supplied with the lidl kit would this make
a noticeable difference?

Antenna

Zebbedee wrote: »

Thats a pity. I have freesat but not terribly happy with picture
quality. Nowhere near as good as saorview.
.

+1 something wrong with your setup.

What exactly is bad with the picture? poor definition? all channels?
Maybe you accidentally have set output on that receiver to NTSC or something else set wrong?
A weak signal would cause blocking and freezing and breaks in sound, but it seems this is not your problem? (The supplied cable with those receivers is poor though)

JazzyJ

JazzyJ wrote: »

I'm up in Leopardstown and am receiving Arfon about 99% of the time. I've only seen it down once for a couple of hours since the New Year.

This is using a Group A aerial and a masthead amp so its not the ideal setup. I was hoping to get Blaenplwyf - hence the Group A aerial, but this wasn't stable enough.

Would Bray Head be a problem for getting Blaenplwf down there?

Your problem there could easily be believe it or not co channel from Divis.You have the height and aspect.

Zebbedee

Antenna wrote: »

+1 something wrong with your setup.

What exactly is bad with the picture? poor definition? all channels?

I wouldn't exactly say poor definition but rather not terribly clear. Say about
25% less clarity than saorview.
Yes,all channels.
Yes all settings are ok on the receiver.

rurs

Zebbedee wrote: »

Its a lidl silvercrest freesat receiver connected through scart. No hdmi output on it. Am only getting 79% signal intensity and approx 70% quality.
Is this likely to improve if I upgrade to a better receiver?
Any suggestions on model?
Also if I upgrade the coax from that supplied with the lidl kit would this make
a noticeable difference?

I upgraded from a Silvercrest SL65/12 to a Ferguson Ariva Combo, noticed a big improvement in picture quality, without changing cabling or dish. The Silvercrest I had only supplied composite video over Scart ( the lowest possible quality), yours might be different, if there's an option for RGB in the AV settings you'll see a bit of an improvement.

If your TV has HDMI, (presumably it does, as you're getting Saorview?) a branded Freesat HD receiver is the logical upgrade. 7 day guide, and no retuning of channels + HD channels and upscaled SD.

Zebbedee

rurs wrote: »

I upgraded from a Silvercrest SL65/12 to a Ferguson Ariva Combo, noticed a big improvement in picture quality, without changing cabling or dish.

What kind of price are these?
And what does the combo mean?

rurs

Zebbedee wrote: »

What kind of price are these?
And what does the combo mean?

New version of the one I had.

It's called a combo as it combines DTT & satellite. So a tuner for each, all channels in one list, one remote etc.

If you're concerned about PQ, maybe pay a visit to the freesat.ie shop in Fairview, and see for yourself. He also stocks the Freesat HD receivers, so you'd be able to have a good look at both.

ftakeith

rurs wrote: »

New version of the one I had.

It's called a combo as it combines DTT & satellite. So a tuner for each, all channels in one list, one remote etc.

If you're concerned about PQ, maybe pay a visit to the freesat.ie shop in Fairview, and see for yourself. He also stocks the Freesat HD receivers, so you'd be able to have a good look at both.

I agree freesat.ie is a great service through e-mail and phone