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What Qualification is required to teach fetac level 5

  • 01-03-2011 5:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    Probably asked already but does, Anyone know the answer to the above?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,205 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    If you are with a VEC plc college you need a relevant degree and a teaching qualification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    looksee wrote: »
    If you are with a VEC plc college you need a relevant degree and a teaching qualification.

    Not necessarily. It depends on the college. My school is also a Further Ed centre, so 'regular' teachers get PLC modules on their timetables e.g. I am an English teacher who teaches Communications and Work Experience. Other places are stand-alone FE centres and may look for specific qualifications in the modules/courses being taught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Long Term Louth


    deemark wrote: »
    Not necessarily. It depends on the college. My school is also a Further Ed centre, so 'regular' teachers get PLC modules on their timetables e.g. I am an English teacher who teaches Communications and Work Experience. Other places are stand-alone FE centres and may look for specific qualifications in the modules/courses being taught.

    Do you Know deemark,
    What Qualification if any, is required to teach fetac level 5?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    What Qualification if any, is required to teach fetac level 5?

    Like I said, there is no specific qualification. If the FETAC Level 5 is offered in a secondary school, then you need a degree and a teaching qualification. If you're in a stand-alone college, a relevant degree (e.g. Early Childhood Ed, if you intend teaching Childcare) may be all that's needed, but a teaching qualification would help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭Further Ed.



    The following only applies to FE colleges who are funded by the State and to courses Level 5 upwards. Private colleges and providers can decide themselves the qualifications they want from their trainers.

    The FE/PLC sector in the Republic of Ireland is not officially recognised as a distinct sector so what applies to the second level sector applies to the PLC sector as well.
    FE/PLC colleges are technically second level schools in the eyes of the Dept of Ed and Skills as the same terms and conditions apply for employment, management etc. So Dept of Ed Circular 0040/2010 also applies to the appointment of teachers in FE colleges. Applicants wishing to be entered on the Register on the basis of qualifications as a teacher in the Further Education Sector must meet the requirements set out in Regulation Five of the Teaching Council [Registration] Regulations 2009. (www.teachingcouncil.ie)

    After 2013 a teaching qualification and a degree is essential. Circulars re non-degree areas e.g. Hairdressing, Beauty Therapy etc cover those who have been deemed qualified by the Dept and are registered prior to 2013 but after 2013 it is a degree and a teaching qualification regardless of the subject area.
    Circular 0040/2010 states; The Minister for Education and Skills, in accordance with the authority conferred by section 24 of the Education Act 1998, directs that school authorities, as employers, ensure that teachers proposed for appointment to teaching posts for which salary grant is being sought must be
    1. Registered with the Teaching Council in accordance with Section 31 of the Teaching Council Act, 2001
    And
    2. Have qualifications appropriate to the sector and suitable to the post for which s/he is proposed
    The following exceptions will apply
    a) Where an employer can satisfactorily demonstrate that every reasonable effort has been made to recruit an appropriately qualified and registered teacher, an unqualified and/or unregistered person may be recruited pending the recruitment of an appropriately qualified and registered teacher and this provision must be inserted in the employment contract. The employer shall repeat the process to recruit an appropriately qualified and registered teacher within the period of any such contract and in any event within the school year. The person recruited will be remunerated at the unqualified rate.
    b) In the case of an appointee who has applied to the Teaching Council, remuneration will be at the rate for unqualified persons pending the decision of the Council. This provision must be inserted in the employment contract. When registration for the sector and recognition of qualifications for the purpose of the post is achieved then incremental salary will be paid.

    In terms of a relevant degree etc a degree in English has been deemed in the past acceptable to teach Communications. It depends on what you are deemed registered to teach by the Teaching Council. In mixed provision centres where a Teacher could be teaching at Leaving or Junior Cert level and FE as well. It states that a person who applies to be entered on the register as a teacher of post-primary curricular subjects up to Leaving Certifi cate examination level shall not be registered under Regulation 5 but will be considered in accordance with Regulation 4. So they haven’t yet dealt with the issues as raised in a previous post where someone teaches both LC curriculum and FETAC Level 5 modules. But some of the new FETAC programmes will state the requirements for those delivering it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Long Term Louth


    Thanks, Further ED.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Annette Murphy


    hi there,

    I have no answers as I also need to know if languages will be a area for future FETAC approval? By that I mean will Irish, German and French be subject areas of the future in the FETAC sector? The areas in my Level 8/Honours BA Degree are German, Irish, Film, Media and Cinema completed in 2013 as a Mature student.

    Does anyone know if Adult Literacy is now a paid job as I have in excess of 50 hours current experience on one-to-one with students at FETAC 2/3 or we need a Degree in English for the future to offer this.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭MouseTail


    German, French and Irish are already approved modules. Adult literacy is a paid job, although volunteers were also used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Annette Murphy


    hi there,

    Thanks for that get the work placement is proving very difficult for me to sort for Year two in languages get despite my two BA Degrees one Level 7, one Level 8 and my Professional Practice Certificate in Training and Development Level 6 with Merit.

    I am also doing Year 1 of a two year PDE(FE) and wonder could I get the work experience/placement in any area for the moment in FETAC Levels 1 to 6 as most colleges don't seem to offer Irish, German or French?

    Thanks again,
    Annette


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭MouseTail


    You would have to ask your Course Coordinator, I don't think anyone else can answer that for you.


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