Canon 60d Opinions?

Alanstrainor

Alright guys, i've decided to upgrade my Canon 350d. I've had it a good few years at this stage and it's served me well. The main draw back of it, is tiny screen size, and i just want an upgrade.

The 60d seems to fit the bill as far as specs are concerned. 18 million pixels, and 1080p video recording seem very impressive. Does anyone have experience with it?

I have a few Canon lenses, so i'll be sticking with Canon.

Cheers,

Alan

TelePaul

How's it going mate? It's funny, I made the exact same switch myself at Christmas. The 350D served me very well and owed me nothing, but the 60D is a whole other animal. When it came to justifying the upgrade, I convinced myself that I needed more pixels, a higher FPS count, better noise handling, etc etc. To be honest, it never really occurred to me that I'd be buying four generations worth of improvements to image processing and dynamic range, but that's been the biggest difference so far. Everything seems tighter right off the camera. You get all the other stuff too of course, and with it a lot more flexibility, but fundamentally, it's a better processor.

If you were using the 350D without any kind of battery grip, you'll also find it a lot fuller in the hand. The tilting LCD screen is also a very nice touch. Just keep in mind you'll need to replace your CF cards for SD cards.

5uspect

I made the upgrade from a 350D to a 7D. The change is definitely worth it. I absolutely loved my 350D but I simply cannot use it now. The amazing viewfinder of the 7D alone makes the poor 350D seem dull and small. Plus I get to keep my CF cards!

Alanstrainor

TelePaul wrote: »

How's it going mate? It's funny, I made the exact same switch myself at Christmas. The 350D served me very well and owed me nothing, but the 60D is a whole other animal. When it came to justifying the upgrade, I convinced myself that I needed more pixels, a higher FPS count, better noise handling, etc etc. To be honest, it never really occurred to me that I'd be buying four generations worth of improvements to image processing and dynamic range, but that's been the biggest difference so far. Everything seems tighter right off the camera. You get all the other stuff too of course, and with it a lot more flexibility, but fundamentally, it's a better processor.

If you were using the 350D without any kind of battery grip, you'll also find it a lot fuller in the hand. The tilting LCD screen is also a very nice touch. Just keep in mind you'll need to replace your CF cards for SD cards.

Awesome man. Thanks for the response.

I'm currently using a battery grip with my 350d, so i'm used to having something a bit on the chunky side in my hands. I much prefer the size of it with the grip than without.

Obviously the better image quality was another big point for the upgrade, especially the noise handling. I really wasn't sure what to expect in regard to the the difference in quality, as i've gotten some fantastic shots with the 350d. The way it handled noise beyond 400iso was always something that bugged me.

I have three or four 8Gb SD HC cards already, and being honest, i was able to cram so many pics onto a 4Gb CF card with only 8 mega pixels i only ever needed 3 of them at the absolute max. I already intend on getting a couple of 16GB SDHC fast cards.

5uspect

25MB raw files will eat up space quickly!

Alanstrainor

5uspect wrote: »

25MB raw files will eat up space quickly!

Hahaha....jaysis! a few 16GB class 10 cards it is!

TelePaul

Alanstrainor wrote: »

i'm used to having something a bit on the chunky side in my hands.

Yeah, so is my girlfriend (hold for applause)

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Obviously the better image quality was another big point for the upgrade, especially the noise handling. I really wasn't sure what to expect in regard to the the difference in quality, as i've gotten some fantastic shots with the 350d. The way it handled noise beyond 400iso was always something that bugged me.

I'm not hugely technically inclined, so it's hard for me to quantify the improvement in image quality. I know 90% of it is still derived from the glass, but I think the colour reproduction and tonal range have been improved upon. And as I said, I think it handles highlights a little better. But yeah, for sure, the 350D was a work-horse! Also never pushed it passed ISO 400 if I could help it.

Alanstrainor

Cheers for the responses lads! I'm pretty much sold. Now i want to have it right now! It'll be a few weeks at least before i take the plunge.

TelePaul; did you get a kit lens with your 60d? I have a good 28-135mm lens as my primary lens at the mo, but if the kit lens is any use i might pay a bit extra to get that, as it's wider than what i have.

Thecageyone

There's a whole thread dedicated to buying new cameras and opinions on makes/models, top of the page. But yeah, 60D looks alright. Lots of bells and whisltes, but I've seen that it handles high ISO levels quite nicely.

leche solara

I got the 60D a few weeks ago, upgrading from the 450D, and so far I think its great particularly with high ISO. Here's an album of handheld night shots at iso up to 6400: http://pix.ie/lechesolara/album/401491

Alanstrainor

Thecageyone wrote: »

There's a whole thread dedicated to buying new cameras and opinions on makes/models, top of the page.

Crap...i did a search and everything!

Thecageyone wrote: »

But yeah, 60D looks alright. Lots of bells and whisltes, but I've seen that it handles high ISO levels quite nicely.

Awesome.

leche solara wrote: »

I got the 60D a few weeks ago, upgrading from the 450D, and so far I think its great particularly with high ISO. Here's an album of handheld night shots at iso up to 6400: http://pix.ie/lechesolara/album/401491

Awesome shots man.

5uspect

Also the noise reduction algorithm in CS5 (and I guess Lightroom) is much improved over previous versions. So you can really push the ISO without too much fear.

Also I notice that the 7D, and by extension the 60D since it has the same sensor, has a lot less chroma noise than the 350D. There can be plenty of luminance noise but I don't find it too unappealing and due to the high pixel count.

Here is a shot at 3200, have a look at the original size:
http://pix.ie/theusual5uspect/2194833/size/800

ISO 12800 is a noise fest but about the same as the 350D at 1600!

condra

I still don't know what to make of the flippy screen. I would worry that it could get knocked out of commission.

Then again, it would be so handy for ground level shots, macros, video, candids, etc.

The image quality on the new Canons is insane.

Thecageyone

Swivel screens are a bit of a gimmick IMO. I wonder how many people actually use them a lot? Sure, good for ground macro, but unless you do that a hell of a lot, there's no real bonus to having it. I thought I'd use live view more when I got the D90, but I never do. Mostly because the focusing is so sluggish in LV that a snail would out run it, but even if it was quicker, I'd not be too bothered.

If you do a lot of video the swivel screen might be handy too, again, never use that function.

5uspect

They've put the swivel screen on the 600D too. It seems like they're trying to add something novel. Can't see the point myself.

leche solara

You need to turn out the swivel screen to play back photos and then when switching off you are advised to turn the LCD back in again to protect it. Another damn thing to remember, but not a deal breaker.

TelePaul

Thecageyone wrote: »

Swivel screens are a bit of a gimmick IMO. I wonder how many people actually use them a lot? Sure, good for ground macro, but unless you do that a hell of a lot, there's no real bonus to having it. I thought I'd use live view more when I got the D90, but I never do. Mostly because the focusing is so sluggish in LV that a snail would out run it, but even if it was quicker, I'd not be too bothered.

If you do a lot of video the swivel screen might be handy too, again, never use that function.

It functions fantastically as a means of protecting the LCD screen. Simple, but a nice touch.

TelePaul

Alanstrainor wrote: »

TelePaul; did you get a kit lens with your 60d? I have a good 28-135mm lens as my primary lens at the mo, but if the kit lens is any use i might pay a bit extra to get that, as it's wider than what i have.

I avoided the kit lens to keep the cost under a grandington, and mostly use a 17-40L.

tommyh1977

Hi, purchased the 60D and returned it within 3 weeks due to a known issue with the hotshoe not determining when a speedlite is on or off shoe. I now went that extra mile and got a 7D with 15-85mm USM lens and all i can say is compared to the 60D (which was nice) is wow!!! To me the 7D is a cropped 5D MKii and then some.

Alanstrainor

tommyh1977 wrote: »

Hi, purchased the 60D and returned it within 3 weeks due to a known issue with the hotshoe not determining when a speedlite is on or off shoe. I now went that extra mile and got a 7D with 15-85mm USM lens and all i can say is compared to the 60D (which was nice) is wow!!! To me the 7D is a cropped 5D MKii and then some.

Where did you guys buy your cameras? I'm looking at some sellers on ebay. I've bought plenty of stuff through ebay over the years, but this will be the most expensive so i'm slightly concerned!

Thecageyone

TelePaul wrote: »

It functions fantastically as a means of protecting the LCD screen. Simple, but a nice touch.

A cheap LCD cover does the same job.

TelePaul

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Where did you guys buy your cameras? I'm looking at some sellers on ebay. I've bought plenty of stuff through ebay over the years, but this will be the most expensive so i'm slightly concerned!

Bought mine at Conns as Gunns were out of stock.

leche solara

Bought mine here:
http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=11920&setcurrency=eur
but it was €30 cheaper a month ago.

TelePaul

Thecageyone wrote: »

A cheap LCD cover does the same job.

I think I'd rather have the functionality out of the box. And it's not like the articulated LCD takes anything from the camera, so I'm not too sure why this is even an issue to be honest.

Alanstrainor

leche solara wrote: »

Bought mine here:
http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=11920&setcurrency=eur
but it was €30 cheaper a month ago.

That's a good price! I've just bookmarked them, i'd prefer to buy as close to home as possible. The ebay sellers are in the UK, but i'd prefer to buy in Irl

TelePaul wrote: »

I think I'd rather have the functionality out of the box. And it's not like the articulated LCD takes anything from the camera, so I'm not too sure why this is even an issue to be honest.

I'd agree tbh, the whole flippy screen malarkey doesn't phase me at all.

tommyh1977

Hi, purchased from Amazon and must say i would have no problem recommending to anyone, have heard mixed reviews of simplyelectronics!!

mikka631

John Gunn Camera Shop all the way.

It might be cheaper online but nothing beats going into that shop and getting a good deal and good honest friendly service with a smile. This comes from a reformed online purchaser, before you hit that return button, pop into Wexford St. and I can nearly guarantee you will want to spend your cash there.

Alanstrainor

mikka631 wrote: »

John Gunn Camera Shop all the way.

It might be cheaper online but nothing beats going into that shop and getting a good deal and good honest friendly service with a smile. This comes from a reformed online purchaser, before you hit that return button, pop into Wexford St. and I can nearly guarantee you will want to spend your cash there.

I'll definitely pop in and have a look see. But if the price is far beyond what it is online i just can't afford to take that hit for the sake of a pleasant buying experience. So far it seems like i can get a 60D for between 750 and 850 online.

leche solara

tommyh1977 wrote: »

Hi, purchased from Amazon and must say i would have no problem recommending to anyone, have heard mixed reviews of simplyelectronics!!

I have now bought 2 cameras, 2 lenses and a phone from simplyelectronics. They say they ship in 1-2 working days, but it actually takes about 10 to arrive. Frustrating, but they are shipped from Reading so there's no customs worries.

condra

829 euro. Holy moly.

Alanstrainor

Apologies for dragging this thread back up again, but I just thought i'd say that I just ordered the camera from Amazon.co.uk. It came to 880 for the body only. Can't wait now!

5uspect

Congrats, enjoy it!

Alanstrainor

5uspect wrote: »

Congrats, enjoy it!

Cheers! There's nothing worse than having to wait a few days to get your new gear!

condra

Congrats!

880 for a brand new 60d has gotta be tempting for anyone.
It's also interesting to see the prices of second-hand 40ds and 50ds take a nose-dive on adverts.ie
Let us know how you get on with it.

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Cheers! There's nothing worse than having to wait a few days to get your new gear!

I usually go into "nesting" mode. Build a little alter for your 60d. :P

Alanstrainor

condra wrote: »

Congrats!

880 for a brand new 60d has gotta be tempting for anyone.
It's also interesting to see the prices of second-hand 40ds and 50ds take a nose-dive on adverts.ie
Let us know how you get on with it.

Will do!

It'll be interesting to compare it to my 350D.

djd80

I upgraded while I was in Hong Kong last October and have never regretted it...fantastic camera,,,,enjoy it...

Alanstrainor

djd80 wrote: »

I upgraded while I was in Hong Kong last October and have never regretted it...fantastic camera,,,,enjoy it...

What did you upgrade from? Was there much of a difference?

5uspect

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Will do!

It'll be interesting to compare it to my 350D.

I think I've said this earlier but I cannot pick up my trusty old 350D any more. It feels so small and inconsequential. The viewfinder is so dark and pokey compared to the magnificence of the 7D.

Alanstrainor

And Amazon is saying it's been dispatched...i'll be checking the status of it every half hour from here on in:D:D:D

leche solara

I'm sure you'll love it

DULLAHAN2

Hi OP, can i ask why you went for the 60D over the 7D? Was it the price? Is there not much difference specwise in the two that you couldn't justify spending the extra for the 7D. I am in the market for a DSLR so just wondering on the difference between the 2 as there is not much difference price wise on pixmania.

Freddie59

condra wrote: »

It's also interesting to see the prices of second-hand 40ds and 50ds take a nose-dive on adverts.ie

Not this one.

djd80

Alanstrainor wrote: »

What did you upgrade from? Was there much of a difference?

I upgraded from a 450D. There was a big difference for me initially just in the way it feels in your hands, the viewfinder is excellent compared to the 450D and I know some people dont like it but I found the flip out screen brilliant for low shots etc....

As for image quality its streets ahead of the 450D. There was a marked improvement in image quality using the same lens over the 450D.

Alanstrainor

DULLAHAN2 wrote: »

Hi OP, can i ask why you went for the 60D over the 7D? Was it the price? Is there not much difference specwise in the two that you couldn't justify spending the extra for the 7D. I am in the market for a DSLR so just wondering on the difference between the 2 as there is not much difference price wise on pixmania.

Well there's over 400 euro of a price difference, so i just couldn't justify the cost of it to be honest. And the specs looks pretty similar. I know the 7d has a better build quality and everythig, but coming from a 350D I think i'll be over the moon with the 60d!
I let you all know about it when i get it! In case you can't tell...I can't wait!!!!!

relichd

I bought my 60D a month ago and I don't regret it! But! It feels a bit more difficult to focus using the 9-point AF viewfinder screen. It was much easier with Nikon D70s But I'm getting used to it and since I focus manually most of the time, it's not a big deal for me. And the price on eBay was good, too! Just around €850 incl. the 18-55 IS kit lens (which I replaced with Sigma's 30mm f/1.4 -another good buy!- shortly after my camera came home)...

I bought two 8GB class 10 SD cards. Each of them takes up to 290 or so pictures in full res RAW format (there is an option to 'reduce' the resolution from 18mpix to 10mpix and less).

Alanstrainor

relichd wrote: »

I bought two 8GB class 10 SD cards. Each of them takes up to 290 or so pictures in full res RAW format (there is an option to 'reduce' the resolution from 18mpix to 10mpix and less).

Good god that's nothing! I'll need to invest in a few class 10 16GB cards i think!

Alanstrainor

Got my camera this morning!:D:D:D:D

I'll hold off giving a bit of a review until i get to use it properly.

But first impressions are very good! Loving it!:D:D:D

condra

Congrats man.

The Omen 666

enjoy, i look forward to hearing how you get on with it, i am trying to decide whether to go for the 60d or wiat another week or 2 and see if nikon announce the d5100, couldn't see my self strecthing to d7000 or the 7d

well wear