Speeding , no speed limited posted

zeds alive

I drive a long country road to and from work every day , its about 10miles long , there is no speed limit posted anywhere on the whole 10miles of it , the first and only speed limit you pass(50km) is driving through the town then you turn onto the road , the next speed limit(50km) you pass is after 10milles and that's driving into the next town , today I passed the speed camera van and I was doing 82kmh , if I was to get a speeding ticket on this road with no limit posted is it still viable due to the fact there is no limit posted?

Gitb1

They'd probably back it up with you should know the speed limits on different types of roads from learning the rules of the road?

Greenmachine

Maybe the speed limit on the whole stretch is 50kph. :eek:

Rembember this being the case when the last stretch of M50 opening that joined the N11. Loved that stretch when it was new. It was always empty.

Anan1

zeds alive wrote: »

I drive a long country road to and from work every day , its about 10miles long , there is no speed limit posted anywhere on the whole 10miles of it , the first and only speed limit you pass(50km) is driving through the town then you turn onto the road , the next speed limit(50km) you pass is after 10milles and that's driving into the next town , today I passed the speed camera van and I was doing 82kmh , if I was to get a speeding ticket on this road with no limit posted is it still viable due to the fact there is no limit posted?

Is there an end of speed limit sign after the town? Is there any indication at any point that the 50km/h limit is no longer in force?

zeds alive

Anan1 wrote: »

Is there an end of speed limit sign after the town? Is there any indication at any point that the 50km/h limit is no longer in force?

no end of speed limit sign , no more signs any where on the whole road until entering the next town , I met the van approx 6 miles after the 50km sign.

ottostreet

Town and city speed limits (50 km/h)
A speed limit of 50 kilometres per hour is in place in built-up areas (other than motorways or special speed limit zones).

National road speed limits (100 km/h)
A speed limit of 100 kilometres per hour is in place on all national roads (including dual carriageways) throughout Ireland.

Regional and local speed limits (80 km/h)
A speed limit of 80 kilometres per hour is in place on all regional and local roads (sometimes referred to as non-national roads).

Motorway speed limits (120 km/h)
A speed limit of 120 kilometres per hour is in place for all mechanical vehicles on all motorways. You should note that learner drivers, vehicles under 50 cc, bicycles, pedestrians, animals and invalid carriages are not allowed on motorways in Ireland.

squod

ottostreet wrote: »

Town and city speed limits (50 km/h)
A speed limit of 50 kilometres per hour is in place in built-up areas (other than motorways or special speed limit zones).

National road speed limits (100 km/h)
A speed limit of 100 kilometres per hour is in place on all national roads (including dual carriageways) throughout Ireland.

Regional and local speed limits (80 km/h)
A speed limit of 80 kilometres per hour is in place on all regional and local roads (sometimes referred to as non-national roads).

Motorway speed limits (120 km/h)
A speed limit of 120 kilometres per hour is in place for all mechanical vehicles on all motorways. You should note that learner drivers, vehicles under 50 cc, bicycles, pedestrians, animals and invalid carriages are not allowed on motorways in Ireland.

National road speed limits (100 km/h) don't really apply anymore. Plenty of national routes have been ''downgraded''. N3 up here is now 80km.

Star_Cow

Well if you have a super car like the Myth Busters you could go much faster so fast the camera wont catch you!

zeds alive

@ottostreet it was here


http://img819.imageshack.us/f/speedtrap.jpg/

ottostreet

I'm not sure exactly which road that is, I think it's the one that passes Morrissey's Quarry? If so, I think that's an 80 km/h road, and when you join up with the main road to Carlow....also 80 km/h, apart from the stretch past the Dolmen Hotel which is 60km/h (i think).

Stupid that the main road out to the Powerstown Roundabouts is all 80km/h, after being 100 for years!

KingIsabella

Aren't most back arse country roads and boreens 80kph anyway?

CiniO

If it's a national road (marked with N letter) then speed limit is 100km/h.
If it's regional or local road (R or L) speed limit is 80km/h.

There's no need for any speed limit signs.

Actually Ireland is the only country which I've been driving in, where actually speed limits signs are everywhere and you always know what the actual speed limit is. What OP was describing seems to be an exception.

Pretty much everywhere else in Europe there wouldn't be any signs for regular speed limits.
Meaning when you enter built up area, then you have to know yourself there is limit to 50km/h (no speed limit signs). The same outside built up area, or on motorways.
Speed limit signs are used only where speed limit is different to regular one on certain kind of road.

Alanstrainor

Star_Cow wrote: »

Well if you have a super car like the Myth Busters you could go much faster so fast the camera wont catch you!

Don't post on this forum again unless you have something worthwhile to post. This isn't after hours, posting rubbish is not on.

zeds alive

ottostreet wrote: »

I'm not sure exactly which road that is, I think it's the one that passes Morrissey's Quarry?

When you cross over the motor way and turn right before morrisseys and head towards the harrow cross

Top Dog

CiniO wrote: »

If it's a national road (marked with N letter) then speed limit is 100km/h.
If it's regional or local road (R or L) speed limit is 80km/h.

Not necessarily true. A lot of the old N roads, which have since been bypassed by a motorway, have now been downgraded to 80km/h despite being the exact same road that had a 100km/h limit previously, and also retaining their N status. Perfect example is the old road out of Fermoy towards Watergrasshill - now an 80km/h zone as far as I'm aware, to try encourage motorists on to the motorway where they'll get stung with the toll.

CiniO

Top Dog wrote: »

Not necessarily true. A lot of the old N roads, which have since been bypassed by a motorway, have now been downgraded to 80km/h despite being the exact same road that had a 100km/h limit previously, and also retaining their N status. Perfect example is the old road out of Fermoy towards Watergrasshill - now an 80km/h zone as far as I'm aware, to try encourage motorists on to the motorway where they'll get stung with the toll.

That's fine. If it's a N road and it's signed with speed limits of 80km/h that's perfectly fine.
But if there isn't any speed limit signs, it means that default speed limit applies, and in case of N road it's 100km/h.

-Corkie-

CiniO wrote: »

That's fine. If it's a N road and it's signed with speed limits of 80km/h that's perfectly fine.
But if there isn't any speed limit signs, it means that default speed limit applies, and in case of N road it's 100km/h.

I would be taking that statment with a pinch of salt.

johnos1984

Top Dog wrote: »

Not necessarily true. A lot of the old N roads, which have since been bypassed by a motorway, have now been downgraded to 80km/h despite being the exact same road that had a 100km/h limit previously, and also retaining their N status. Perfect example is the old road out of Fermoy towards Watergrasshill - now an 80km/h zone as far as I'm aware, to try encourage motorists on to the motorway where they'll get stung with the toll.

Same with the old N7 between Nenagh and Limerick

CiniO

-Corkie- wrote: »

I would be taking that statment with a pinch of salt.

Why?

pegasus1

that road a is local road, not even a regional rd...imo it will still be classed as 80kph...

_Kaiser_

Just on the point of "old" N roads like for example the "old N3"

These haven't just had their limits downgraded/reduced but they've also been reclassified - its now the R147 I think.

Thus even though the road itself hasn't changed (except that the maintenance has disappeared along with the N), being that its an R road now, the default maximum is 80 km/h

There are exceptions though... the N2 between Finglas and Ashbourne has a motorway style 120 limit for example.

vetstu

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

There are exceptions though... the N2 between Finglas and Ashbourne has a motorway style 120 limit for example.

Thats because it is motorway. It's signed as the M2 from just past the M50 till you hit the roundabout on the North side of Ashbourne at the hotel. Therefore 120k limit

-Corkie-

vetstu wrote: »

Thats because it is motorway. It's signed as the M2 from just past the M50 till you hit the roundabout on the North side of Ashbourne at the hotel. Therefore 120k limit

I am not familiar with that road so I cannot say. The N25 from Cork The carrigtwohill is 120KPH and it is not a motorway also the N22 from Bishopstown to Ballincolling is also 120 KPH and it is not a motorway.

_Kaiser_

vetstu wrote: »

Thats because it is motorway. It's signed as the M2 from just past the M50 till you hit the roundabout on the North side of Ashbourne at the hotel. Therefore 120k limit

Admittedly I haven't been on it in a while but it didn't used to be - actually yes wasn't it was resigned last year at some stage? It was still 120 before that though.

megafan

zeds alive wrote: »

I drive a long country road to and from work every day , its about 10miles long , there is no speed limit posted anywhere on the whole 10miles of it , the first and only speed limit you pass(50km) is driving through the town then you turn onto the road , the next speed limit(50km) you pass is after 10milles and that's driving into the next town , today I passed the speed camera van and I was doing 82kmh , if I was to get a speeding ticket on this road with no limit posted is it still viable due to the fact there is no limit posted?

You Probably have been done!!.... The only reason the camera van was there is because of the low speed limit... you'll find for the most part these vans are in areas where motorists are little informed of true speed limits.... Like where a low limit is in force on good roads where you would expect the national speed limit to apply!!.... "Fish in a Barrel" is the description....