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Water Drop C&C

  • 27-02-2011 9:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭


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    Comments, advice, suggestions welcome on how to improve this type of shot.


Comments

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    your perspective is too high. the droplet is not isolated enough from everything else in the shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭Stephen P


    The setup I had wasn't ideal and this was the best I could manage. I would have rathered a more closer shot and lower too. For first attempt I'm happy with it :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Try some food dye and get down low.
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    Can you give us a bit more info on your technique?
    I used a 50mm f/1.8 and extension tubes with an off camera flash.

    I used a drinking straw to drop water into a plate. Ideally I would set up a siphon system to create regular droplets but I didn't have any decent tubing to hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭Stephen P


    Very nice photo! :) What exposure did you use for that? What backdrop did you use?

    The setup I used wasn't great, I put a glass bowl under my kitchen tap and let the water drip down. The lighting was very bad, I had to use the on-camera flash plus external flash fired wirelessly from slightly above.
    I used 50mm f36 exp. 1/80sec.
    The food dye is a very good idea, I seen that on another site and had it in mind to experiment with it when I get a decent setup with more lighting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Here's mine...


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    And here's a guide on how I did it :)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055925638

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    Here's my one too.

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    Slightly more DIY and 'cosier' (i.e. not half enough room - all this rested on a bedside locker!) :pac:

    3597162191_8d8c6510c9_z.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭alexlyons


    how do you guys sync the drop hitting and the flash firing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    alexlyons wrote: »
    how do you guys sync the drop hitting and the flash firing?

    I was trial and error. I'd no shutter release, so I was dropping dye onto the water as I clicked the shutter release.

    There's a guy online who has a very complex set up where he times how long the drop takes to hit the water and uses a delay between the release of the drop on the shutter release. Bang on every time. He's on flickr. I'll post vids/pics if I can find.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Stephen P wrote: »
    Very nice photo! :) What exposure did you use for that? What backdrop did you use?

    The setup I used wasn't great, I put a glass bowl under my kitchen tap and let the water drip down. The lighting was very bad, I had to use the on-camera flash plus external flash fired wirelessly from slightly above.
    I used 50mm f36 exp. 1/80sec.
    The food dye is a very good idea, I seen that on another site and had it in mind to experiment with it when I get a decent setup with more lighting.

    I used 1/4000s as I was getting some motion blur.
    I used a white plate and a white sheet of A4 paper in the background. Other than that my setup was similar to mehfesto's.

    With a siphon system or pump you could create a air/liquid droplet train using a tee and get very regular droplets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    5uspect wrote: »
    I used 1/4000s as I was getting some motion blur.
    I used a white plate and a white sheet of A4 paper in the background. Other than that my setup was similar to mehfesto's.

    With a siphon system or pump you could create a air/liquid droplet train using a tee and get very regular droplets.

    could you use the external flash at 1/4000's ?


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Yep, with high speed sync on the 580EX.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    5uspect wrote: »
    Yep, with high speed sync on the 580EX.

    ah very nice ! , i went cheap and got the 430 EX II, can only sync to 1/200 s on that ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Well lads yas will never see me do a drop shot, so much work in the set up, I rarely ever use a tripod cos thats too much hassle!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    the_monkey wrote: »
    ah very nice ! , i went cheap and got the 430 EX II, can only sync to 1/200 s on that ...

    No you haven't! That's a high speed sync button right there with the second curtain sync:

    Canon-Speedlite-430EX-580EX-Flash-Back.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    they're a bit of a technical rather than an aesthetic exercise.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Well lads yas will never see me do a drop shot, so much work in the set up, I rarely ever use a tripod cos thats too much hassle!

    Well you just wouldn't be able to take such a photograph, simple as that. :cool:
    But it's okay we won't judge you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭Adrian.Sadlier


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    This is the setup I used. http://pix.ie/asadlier/1464381

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    This is another of my favourites. Trail and error with a lot of failed shots i.e > 95%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    5uspect wrote: »
    No you haven't! That's a high speed sync button right there with the second curtain sync:

    Nice one, I underuse this flash, now i have my next project idea!!

    and super shots there Adrian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    All you need is a kitchen sink, a flash and some coloured gels. I think higher perspectives can work too:

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    1/250, f/9, Lee flame red gel taped onto the flash head. 50mm. Very little set up here, rainy day boredom is all it took.

    Catch them falling for a little more abstractivity:

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    1/200, f/16, 70mm, some blue gel attached this time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭Adrian.Sadlier


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Nice one, I underuse this flash, now i have my next project idea!!

    and super shots there Adrian

    Thanks "The Monkey". I just put them up as an example of what can be done with a basic setup. The fact that the sink and tap were stainless steel helped a lot. The sparkle on the drop in the second phot was from the flash bounced off the tap - pure luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    Steel sinks rule for this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭pbuckland05


    I tried this myself my set up was to use a black bucket to the brim with water and have the coloured card as a back ground I remotely fired the flash through the card


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