Very cold weather may return

darkman2

Hi all,


High pressure is going to back westward over the next week or so. This will allow a much colder Northerly airflow to become established toward the end of next week. Currently there is confusion as to just what the synoptic situation will be. But it's increasingly likely that a collapse of cold air from the North is imminent with a snow and frost risk which could well have Ireland on the hit list. Keep up to date here.

Big Daddy Cool

as much as i now enjoy the daily posts about the cold and snow ''possibly returning'' i have to disagree with DM on this, this is highly unlikely to happen, weather.com's 10 day forecast say it will be dry and sunny with only a 20% chance of precipitation, met eireann and even the great MT gives a similar forecast. while it will be slightly cold at times, its time to just enjoy the spring like weather we look like getting and forget the cold and snow.

force eleven

Have to say, the last 8 weeks weather has surely been the most boring and uninteresting I have ever witnessed at this time of year. No snow ( here) one day with a gale, no thunderstorms , no major rain event, nothing. Bland. And all this after an incredible December / late Nov. So, personally, I'd like to see a bit of warmth, and some hints of real spring.

Nabber

Most of the charts are giving up on the idea of a cold return. Favouring a high pressure over UK and Irl.

Wouldn't like the snow and cold to come back now anyways. Any snow will melt away in the sun.

Bring on spring.

mike65

Not a chance, ain't gonna happen, pie in the sky, la la land. etc

Su Campu

I think it's time for you to go back into invernation darkman, see you again in say November?!!

johngalway

Get lost snow. I've grass to be growing for my sheep!

derekon

darkman2 wrote: »

Hi all,


High pressure is going to back westward over the next week or so. This will allow a much colder Northerly airflow to become established toward the end of next week. Currently there is confusion as to just what the synoptic situation will be. But it's increasingly likely that a collapse of cold air from the North is imminent with a snow and frost risk which could well have Ireland on the hit list. Keep up to date here.

The words "flogging" and "dead horse" come to mind. Darkman2, I think you and the rest of us will have to put any hopes of snow to the back of our minds until January / February 2012 (I certainly would not expect snow this November and December 2011 as snow usually does not occur in those months in Ireland)

nacho libre

derekon wrote: »

The words "flogging" and "dead horse" come to mind. Darkman2, I think you and the rest of us will have to put any hopes of snow to the back of our minds until January / February 2012 (I certainly would not expect snow this November and December 2011 as snow usually does not occur in those months in Ireland)

Derekon, if the cfs charts are right it will be unusually cold next October.
While you may scoff at specualting about what the weather will be like in six months, it needs to be said the cfs charts were by and large correct about how this winter panned out.

As regards whether we'll get any more snow, perhaps not, but we can get snow well into April in this country.

Pangea

Derekon you didnt expect snow in novemeber and decemeber last year and look what happened :pac:
Very presumptuous to say that snow should be at the back of our minds till Jan 2012 especially after the two winters we just encountered. As Nacho said snow is possible in many months of the year here.

As for the 'very cold weather may return' , I doubt it. Maybe cold but cant see it being anything like December. Met Uk have it as cold and returning to normal fairly soon.

bb1234567

too right- noone expected any snow this early, if we got snow this yr whats to say we wont next yr. oh nd last winter 2009/2010 we weer basically cheated out of snow- it was definitely cold enough it was -5 at about 11 oclock on xmas day when i was going to mass but it was just too dry in ireland at the time when the cold came - no precipitation till that great snowfall on new years most of december was cold enough to snow so thats 2 yrs where we could nd did have early snow so im betting on snow in december again like in the 70s nd 80s when it snowed lots every yr.:D- i think.. well hope the climate of europe is going back to what it used to be- we are getting snow every year now for the past while nd think were gonna get lots of snow eevry year from now on- i think our winters are getting progressively worse nd who knows maybe in a few yrs time well have snow from nov to april :D:D:D:D:D:D...maybe even next yr :cool:

Lumi

nacho libre wrote: »

we can get snow well into April in this country.

Though spring snow is usually nothing to write home about about, 31st March/ 1st April 2010 certainly delivered in Northern Ireland

Here's some nice snowy scenes from April 2008 too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBZL8_p1IaY

Getting back to the present, although it looks like there's nothing but mild monotony by day and slight frosts at night ahead for the immediate future, as someone once said, you should never turn your back on snow!! :D

TheMilkyPirate

Please god don't be looking for snow into april like last year again, I've firmly switched to summer mode now and can't wait for spring.. Sun bbq beach boobs beer.. Snow would be crap now anyway be gone in a day or so who wants that like?

Sun sun sun sun :cool::cool:

BEASTERLY

Remember the snow in april 2008 well, good times.... until the sun came up!

200motels

Bring on the snow.

lord lucan

Roll on the sunshine. Snow can feck off until the end of the year.:D

NIALL D

lovely more snow !!!

sunbabe08

snow go away please. i need me some sunshine and warmth

alfa beta

gfs in fi is interesting this morning - whether it comes to pass or not who knows - but if it were to verify as per current run darkman might indeed have the last laugh!

nacho libre

Feckin' traitors!:mad: I hope ye who have suddenly turned your back on snow are taught a severe lesson next year when we have an el nino winter:D

mike65

Ooh wet and mild next winter? excellent!

nacho libre

mike65 wrote: »

Ooh wet and mild next winter? excellent!

sorry mike65, think winter 2009/10 instead. Doesn't the thought of it just warm your heart:p

sunbabe08

a wet windy proper irish winter will do me fine.

Big Daddy Cool

looks like another ''possible'' and ''potentially'' warm sunny day ahead, think i'll cut the grass

mike65

nacho libre wrote: »

Feckin' traitors!:mad: I hope ye who have suddenly turned your back on snow are taught a severe lesson next year when we have an el nino winter:D

mike65 wrote: »

Ooh wet and mild next winter? excellent!

nacho libre wrote: »

sorry mike65, think winter 2009/10 instead. Doesn't the thought of it just warm your heart:p

That was a La Nina winter not El Nino.

nacho libre

mike65 wrote: »

That was a La Nina winter not El Nino.

I don't think so mike65.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_2009%E2%80%932010_in_Europe#Causes


TUESDAY 11 P.M.
THE WINTER OUTLOOK FOR EUROPE 2010/11



This year's August heat wave, like 2003, coming off an El Nino winter the year before, was over Russia and into central Europe. October has been cold in much of this area, and guess what, the winter will be most fierce from Euro-Russia into the Alps. Russian temps as much as 3C below normal for the winter are possible, 1-2 C below normal westward into the Alps. THIS INCLUDES THE BALKANS INTO NORTHWESTERN TURKEY, SORRY TO MY FAN CLUB THERE (I love all of you!!) But I should have been better in my description. I like above-normal snow in much of this area. Most of northwestern Europe will be near to a little below normal (up to 1C below normal) while northern and central Scandinavia, Scotland and Ireland are near or a bit above normal.

mike65

All I know is that we are in a La Nina phase and we've had cold pretty dry winters. That said negative or postive NAO seems to be more important here (then again is one connected to the other?).

lord lucan

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

looks like another ''possible'' and ''potentially'' warm sunny day ahead, think i'll cut the grass

First day of spring,sun is shining,what's not to love!:D

And my grass is shooting up and badly needs to be cut too!:)

nacho libre

mike65 wrote: »

I'll I know is that we are in a La Nina phase and we've had cold pretty dry winters. That said negative or postive NAO seems to be more important here (then again is one connected to the other?).

Yes. I don't think you can put the unusually cold period of Winter 2009/10 down to el nino, because normally an el nino winter causes milder and wet winters in Ireland. Also with the 2010/11 Winter being a strong la nina we shouldn't have had the record breaking December.
I think a consensus is building that the colder periods in Ireland and Britain are due to low solar output, which is somehow effecting the nao.

Big Daddy Cool

lord lucan wrote: »

First day of spring,sun is shining,what's not to love!:D

And my grass is shooting up and badly needs to be cut too!:)

yip real t-shirt weather out today , the snow and frost is a distant memory now

Big Daddy Cool

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

yip real t-shirt weather out today , the snow and frost is a distant memory now

T-shirt weather?? are ye mad LOL.

Bloody freezing, might as well have snow.

Could of hung a wet duffle coat off you know what , was so cold today.
;):p

nacho libre

Jake1 wrote: »

T-shirt weather?? are ye mad LOL.

Bloody freezing, might as well have snow.

Could of hung a wet duffle coat off you know what , was so cold today.
;):p

I've never heard this expression before.

but yes it was fairly chilly today.

Pangea

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

yip real t-shirt weather out today , the snow and frost is a distant memory now

You have a bad memory then

on Met.ie wrote:

It will be cold again with lowest temperatures of -4 to +1 degrees and a widespread sharp frost

Joe Public

March definitely came in like a lamb so we are in for a rough end to the month.

Big Daddy Cool

Jake1 wrote: »

T-shirt weather?? are ye mad LOL.

Bloody freezing, might as well have snow.

Could of hung a wet duffle coat off you know what , was so cold today.
;):p

not at all, at 1 o'clock yesterday, i decided to cut the grass and had to wear a t-shirt, it was grand and warm, *cough* *cough* *sneeze* yip grand t-shirt weather it was

ciaran67

force eleven wrote: »

Have to say, the last 8 weeks weather has surely been the most boring and uninteresting I have ever witnessed at this time of year. No snow ( here) one day with a gale, no thunderstorms , no major rain event, nothing. Bland. And all this after an incredible December / late Nov. So, personally, I'd like to see a bit of warmth, and some hints of real spring.

Great innit

Big Daddy Cool

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

not at all, at 1 o'clock yesterday, i decided to cut the grass and had to wear a t-shirt, it was grand and warm, *cough* *cough* *sneeze* yip grand t-shirt weather it was

Fess up now daddy Cool, I bet ye have a big dirty cold on ye today right ? LOL

I know I have, and have big brutal cold sore to prove it

Iancar29

It is indeed lovely out but doesnt mean its not still cold!

im back inside now and still hav a hoodie on! ha

Big Daddy Cool

Jake1 wrote: »

Fess up now daddy Cool, I bet ye have a big dirty cold on ye today right ? LOL

I know I have, and have big brutal cold sore to prove it

no cold, but i ventured out today to cut the hedges in my t shirt, had to quickly run back in for my coat, not as balmy as yesterday

Big Daddy Cool

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

no cold, but i ventured out today to cut the hedges in my t shirt, had to quickly run back in for my coat, not as balmy as yesterday

Funny LOL

derekon

nacho libre wrote: »

Derekon, if the cfs charts are right it will be unusually cold next October.
While you may scoff at specualting about what the weather will be like in six months, it needs to be said the cfs charts were by and large correct about how this winter panned out.

As regards whether we'll get any more snow, perhaps not, but we can get snow well into April in this country.

Hi Nacho,

I do not "scoff" at what the weather will be like in six months - its a fact that snow during the months of November & December in Ireland is rather rare. This is the general trend (I am excluding sleety s*it that melts within a few hours)

I await October 2011 with interest given your indictation it could be very cold.

Furthermore, you are correct - you can get snow in Ireland into April however its normally (a) on high ground (b) melts very quickly or (c) is of the sleety variety.

Now take the heavy snowfalls in Dublin from 28th November to 3rd December and then again 19th December to 23rd December - they were what I call mother f*cking snowfalls!

nacho libre

derekon wrote: »

Hi Nacho,

I do not "scoff" at what the weather will be like in six months - its a fact that snow during the months of November & December in Ireland is rather rare. This is the general trend (I am excluding sleety s*it that melts within a few hours)

I await October 2011 with interest given your indictation it could be very cold.

Furthermore, you are correct - you can get snow in Ireland into April however its normally (a) on high ground (b) melts very quickly or (c) is of the sleety variety.

Now take the heavy snowfalls in Dublin from 28th November to 3rd December and then again 19th December to 23rd December - they were what I call mother f*cking snowfalls!

Hey Derek,

Ah yes i wouldn't be expecting snow like that in April, but freak events do happens as we saw this past winter and indeed on March 30th last year;)
So just as you didn't expect to be walking your dogs in deep snow in late November 2010. Who knows you could wake up on the morning of April first 2011, lookout the window, and your jaw may drop to the floor with the scene that greets you outside;)

As for October 2011, i am looking forward to seeing if it does turn out to be cold- although it will be a bit of waste in a sense, as it will be just too early in the year for snowfall at lower levels!

Big Daddy Cool

back to t shirt weather in county meath today, just been up the fields and theres a nice bit of warmth in the sun, long may it last

Big Tone

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

back to t shirt weather in county meath today, just been up the fields and theres a nice bit of warmth in the sun, long may it last

Yea can def feel the power in the Sun returning to this hemisphere.

CarMuppet

I don't have a weather station but I do have solar panels... another 800 liters of 65'C water again today.. thank you sun!


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