Possible petrol & diesel shortages

CorsetIsTight

Just heard the news headlines.

The following taken from Newstalk website:

Petrol and diesel prices could sky-rocket by three cent a litre over the next 24 hours.
It's because of fuel shortages at Dublin Port today.
The average tanker takes 40,000 litres yet port authorities permitted them to take just 15,000.
It's being attributed to the on-going crisis in Libya.
Joe Fraizer owns Frazier Oil and says, as a result of today’s restrictions, the price of fuel will rise in the coming hours.

fedor.2.

Damn you gaddafi, damn you to hell

Sticky_Fingers

I heard this and went out to fill up the car, if things don't quieten down it'll just be the start of it IMO.

Jet Black

Makes on sense? How does it takes a few hours for prices to increase yet if the price of a barrell were to drop it would be months before it was seen at the pumps. Shortage or not the price at the pump should be what the garage paid for it until the have to order more.

CorsetIsTight

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

I heard this and went out to fill up the car, if things don't quieten down it'll just be the start of it IMO.

If I hadn't only just filled it, I would have gone out too. I am just about old enough to I remember my parents telling me about the petrol shortages of the early 80s. Back then, my father cycled to work - that's not an option for me...

My name is URL

Peak oil has come and gone I reckon. Prices will probably not drop more than a cent or so from now on, and rise at any sign of unrest.

Look at this article from last year - http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0408/1224267889272.html

It won't be too long until long commutes to work aren't viable for people.

Mike 1972

If there shortages theyre far more likely to be caused by increased demand resulting from panic buying than reduced supply caused by anything happening in Libya or Egypt

CreepingDeath

CorsetIsTight wrote: »

Petrol and diesel prices could sky-rocket by three cent a litre over the next 24 hours.

Sweet suffering Jesus... it could cost me an extra €1.50 to fill up my car !
I'd better spring off the sofa, and race to the garage to save all that money.

Paddy The Pirate

I have a bike

fedor.2.

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Sweet suffering Jesus... it could cost me an extra €1.50 to fill up my car !
I'd better spring off the sofa, and race to the garage to save all that money.

:rolleyes:

Alter-Ego

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

I heard this and went out to fill up the car, if things don't quieten down it'll just be the start of it IMO.

Should we start cracking each others heads open and feed on the goo inside?

starbelgrade

Meh

AckwelFoley

Jaysus, aul smokin Joe done well for himself since givin up the boxing

Sticky_Fingers

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Sweet suffering Jesus... it could cost me an extra €1.50 to fill up my car !
I'd better spring off the sofa, and race to the garage to save all that money.

Mock away but I'd rather that €1.50 in my pocket then someone elses. I wonder how many of you will be back on here in a few days pissing and moaning about the cost of petrol if it goes up anymore?

squod

Turning away tanker trucks this morning at the depot. Walk to work for summer, mark my words.

skyhighflyer

I'd better start switching the car's engine off at night so.

CreepingDeath

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Mock away but I'd rather that €1.50 in my pocket then someone elses. I wonder how many of you will be back on here in a few days pissing and moaning about the cost of petrol if it goes up anymore?

Probably only the unemployed posters, who we don't really care about anyway.

Cheap Thrills!

*implodes*









as you were :cool:

papermaker

now we're NOT suckin diesel:D

Caoimhín

Paddy The Pirate wrote: »

I have a bike

I have a dunkey.

Bucklesman

Interestingly...

Sticky_Fingers

Bucklesman wrote: »

Interestingly...

It looks like Italy is in a much worst position then ourselves, while we import about 23% of our oil from Libya (as opposed to 22% for Italy) the total volume (14,000 barrels/day as opposed to 314,000 b/day for Italy ) we use is piddling in comparison so we will hopefully be able to source ours more easily

ejmaztec

squod wrote: »

Turning away tanker trucks this morning at the depot. Walk to work for summer, mark my words.

I hope you don't work on the International Space Station.:eek:

Tonyandthewhale

Caoimhín wrote: »

I have a dunkey.

You win.

CorsetIsTight

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Sweet suffering Jesus... it could cost me an extra €1.50 to fill up my car !
I'd better spring off the sofa, and race to the garage to save all that money.

The increase, on top of the recent round of increases would be a pain in the neck.

Not bring able to buy petrol at all would be rather more than that.

My family relies on my income. If I can't drive to work, I can't get to work. If I don't work I don't get paid.

You are of course free to sneer at people who spring off the sofa and race to the garage. Please just bear in mind that they have more pressing concerns than saving €1.50

That is all.

My name is URL

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Sweet suffering Jesus... it could cost me an extra €1.50 to fill up my car !
I'd better spring off the sofa, and race to the garage to save all that money.

It's not all just about saving a couple of euro on filling up your car. Usually when the price of gas rises, then so does everything else.. and Ireland isn't exactly in the fittest of states to go raising costs right across the board.

Bruthal

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Mock away but I'd rather that €1.50 in my pocket then someone elses. I wonder how many of you will be back on here in a few days pissing and moaning about the cost of petrol if it goes up anymore?

Yes thats all well and good, but to go to the effort of getting petrol now instead of when im passing the petrol station when i actually need petrol as a once off to save €1.50 is not something i would be concerned about. And things are very tight just like they are for most.

Just because some of us dont instantly drive to the garage to fill up to save a once off euro does not mean we have to be then happy with the price of it.

Sticky_Fingers

robbie7730 wrote: »

Yes thats all well and good, but to go to the effort of getting petrol now instead of when im passing the petrol station when i actually need petrol as a once off to save €1.50 is not something i would be concerned about. And things are very tight just like they are for most.

Just because some of us dont instantly drive to the garage to fill up to save a once off euro does not mean we have to be then happy with the price of it.

€1.50 may be peanuts to you but to someone else it could be quite a lot. Considering the fact that tankers were sent out around the country less then half full would suggest to me that the price increase of 3c is just the start. It's up to you of course what price point you consider going out and topping up the car just in case but as I've said, thats €1.50, (possibly more depending on the price next time I fill up) in my pocket instead of someone elses.

desaparecidos

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

€1.50 may be peanuts to you but to someone else it could be quite a lot. Considering the fact that tankers were sent out around the country less then half full would suggest to me that the price increase of 3c is just the start. It's up to you of course what price point you consider going out and topping up the car just in case but as I've said, thats €1.50, (possibly more depending on the price next time I fill up) in my pocket instead of someone elses.

So you will burn fuel on the way to the petrol station, waste time, then burn more fuel in a heavier car on the way back from the petrol station, all to fill your car up for 1.50 (not counting the fuel you burned) cheaper, once off?

You must have **** all else to do.

Bruthal

CorsetIsTight wrote: »

The increase, on top of the recent round of increases would be a pain in the neck.

Them increases are already in place, so saving a once off €1.50, its hardly worthwhile getting off the sofa, driving to a petrol station, and filling up just because of the increase.

Not bring able to buy petrol at all would be rather more than that.

My family relies on my income. If I can't drive to work, I can't get to work. If I don't work I don't get paid.

Probably the same for most of us

You are of course free to sneer at people who spring off the sofa and race to the garage. Please just bear in mind that they have more pressing concerns than saving €1.50

That is all.

I dont think he was sneering, just using the common sense of not seeing the worth of jumping off the couch and driving to the petrol station to save a once off euro. Some think its worth while, others dont. Filling up for €75 instead of €73.50 as a single once off is not something i would do either, unless i was going to the petrol station anyway. Lots seem to though, as there are often big que`s at petrol stations which to me makes it even less worth while.

Sticky_Fingers

desaparecidos wrote: »

So you will burn fuel on the way to the petrol station, waste time, then burn more fuel in a heavier car on the way back from the petrol station, all to fill your car up for 1.50 (not counting the fuel you burned) cheaper, once off?

I suggest you read that back to yourself and see if it really makes any logical sense.

desaparecidos wrote: »

You must have **** all else to do.

About the same as yourself considering you are on boards on a Friday night.

Gummy Panda

Sounds like the making of Mad Max 2.

I nominate phasers as the feral kid

Bruthal

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

€1.50 may be peanuts to you but to someone else it could be quite a lot. Considering the fact that tankers were sent out around the country less then half full would suggest to me that the price increase of 3c is just the start. It's up to you of course what price point you consider going out and topping up the car just in case but as I've said, thats €1.50, (possibly more depending on the price next time I fill up) in my pocket instead of someone elses.

Its not peanuts, i just would not see the big benefit of saving it by going the couple of miles to the petrol station to save it when i will be driving past it the next day, thats all.

Sticky_Fingers

robbie7730 wrote: »

Its not peanuts, i just would not see the big benefit of saving it by going the couple of miles to the petrol station to save it when i will be driving past it the next day, thats all.

Fair enough, I live next door to a petrol station so there you go...

desaparecidos

robbie7730 wrote: »

Lots seem to though, as there are often big que`s at petrol stations which to me makes it even less worth while.

People panic and fill their tanks, petrol stations see their supplies run out quicker than they expected, prices rise even more.

Genius.

desaparecidos

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

I suggest you read that back to yourself and see if it really makes any logical sense.

It makes perfect sense.

CorsetIsTight

robbie7730 wrote: »

I dont think he was sneering, just using the common sense of not seeing the worth of jumping off the couch and driving to the petrol station to save a once off euro. Some think its worth while, others dont. Filling up for €75 instead of €73.50 as a single once off is not something i would do either, unless i was going to the petrol station anyway. Lots seem to though, as there are often big que`s at petrol stations which to me makes it even less worth while.

Once more, with feeling, and in three-part harmony....

If I did not already have a full tank of petrol, I would have gone out tonight to fill up. This would not be in order to save money. It would be to make sure that I was as fully stocked as possible in the event of petrol shortages.

Tra la la.

Bruthal

CorsetIsTight wrote: »

Once more, with feeling, and in three-part harmony....

If I did not already have a full tank of petrol, I would have gone out tonight to fill up. This would not be in order to save money. It would be to make sure that I was as fully stocked as possible in the event of petrol shortages.

Tra la la.

O no, petrol shortages now, what is the world coming to. Next the price of guinness will go up and then i will be more likely to spring off the couch and rush to the local to fill up:eek:

CorsetIsTight

robbie7730 wrote: »

O no, petrol shortages now, what is the world coming to. Next the price of guinness will go up and then i will be more likely to spring off the couch and rush to the local to fill up:eek:

Our priorities clearly differ.

Unless your car runs on Guinness.

My name is URL

robbie7730 wrote: »

O no, petrol shortages now, what is the world coming to. Next the price of guinness will go up and then i will be more likely to spring off the couch and rush to the local to fill up:eek:

Tramampoline!.. Trabopoline!

Dempsey

Bucklesman wrote: »

Interestingly...

Easy now to see why France, Spain & Italy was doing most of the complaining whilst America were more relaxed despite the ones with the most reason to see the end of Gaddafi, despite getting off the USA's state department list of sponsors of terrorism and paying compensation of the US for acts of terrorism.

Here was me thinking it was a moral and ethical issue but like Iraq & Kuwait, its all about the oil.

BluesBerry

Paddy The Pirate wrote: »

I have a bike

Caoimhín wrote: »

I have a dunkey.

fcuk your bikey bike ..........Ive a horse outside

aaand fcuk your diddly dunkey......... Ive a horse outside

if you looking for a ride Ive a horse outside

CrazyRabbit

I remember not many years ago when petrol/diesel cost about 80c per litre. Two or three cents isn't going to break the bank in itself. However, prices seem to increase for the smallest reasons, and rarely ever decrease.

What really annoys me is:
Technology for extracting the oil has improved in the last 30 years.
The cost of extracting oil has barely increased in years.
And yet, the price at the pump continues to increase at an astounding rate.

It's simple really. Those who control the oil are greedy bastards who use any excuse to get even more money. They know that they can get away with it, because there are no alternatives to buying their oil.
I guess they know that their reserves are finite, and they are getting every cent they can out of it now, so their families will still be filthy rich in 50-100 years when the oil runs out.

neonitrix

The JFT (Joint Fuels Terminal) in Dublin limits supply the whole time depending on shipping schedule. They also have to keep a percentage supply for airports & army services.

having worked in the industry i have often sent in a 40,000 trailer only to be let load 5-10,000 litres of petrol or diesel onto it.

If you were to ever see issues its when bad weather kicks in and stock cant make it into the country or weather causes a increase in demand that wasnt planned for.

most orders for product ie: Petrol / Diesel have to be placed months in advance and they use previous drawing figures to schedule them so get amounts needed wrong the whole time.