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couple of questions about obtaining a classic

  • 24-02-2011 5:39pm
    #1
    mstq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭


    Howdy

    I'm interested in importing a classic and I have couple of questions regarding this...

    1. What age is the car being treated as classic, 25 or 30 years old?
    2. Are all cars at the specified age treated as one?
    3. If importing a car from abroad at or over specified age, which is not yet registered as classic in country of origin, will I still have to pay VRT?


    Thx for all answeres


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  • #2
    PaulK_CCI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭PaulK_CCI


    mstq wrote: »
    1. What age is the car being treated as classic, 25 or 30 years old?

    30 years for Motor Tax and VRT duties exemption, older than 1-1-1980 for NCT exemption.

    mstq wrote: »
    2. Are all cars at the specified age treated as one?
    Note quite sure what you mean, but I would say Yes: as in there is no difference made between a Ferrari and a 2CV...
    mstq wrote: »
    3. If importing a car from abroad at or over specified age, which is not yet registered as classic in country of origin, will I still have to pay VRT?
    No. BUT the car would have to come from within the EU union, if not, for example if the car would come in from the US, you will be liable for VAT and import duties to the tune of 21% and 10%


  • #3
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    A. As far as taxation and VRT are concerned - it's 30 years old.
    B. As far as an obligation to NCT - that kicks in at 1980 or younger
    C. Anything over 30 years of age is considered classic as far as A goes.
    D. Classic VRT is a nominal flat fee - 50 euro iirc - regardless of whether it's considered a classic in it's home turf or not.
    E. If it's coming from outside the EU, it'll be subject to import duty.


  • #4
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Always worth reading ;)

    Classic Cars Charter, Info & Pics - please read before posting

    PaulK_CCI wrote: »
    30 years for Motor Tax and VRT duties exemption

    Now come on, there's NO Motor Tax or VRT exemption. If there was, there would be nothing to pay. There is something to pay and it's at a concessionary rate for cars over 30 years old.

    Motor Tax class: VINTAGE.
    VRT Category: C
    PaulK_CCI wrote: »
    older than 1-1-1980 for NCT exemption.

    Now that IS an exemption. ;)


  • #5
    PaulK_CCI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭PaulK_CCI


    macplaxton wrote: »
    Always worth reading ;)
    Now come on, there's NO Motor Tax or VRT exemption.

    Actually, the VRT IS an exemption ;). The VRO classes the 50 euro's (soon to be 200 euro's) as a fixed ADMIN FEE, not a Tax. So in theory cars over 30 years old ARE exempt from paying the Vehicle Registration Tax, but will only be required to pay a fixed admin fee...


  • #6
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    €200 for administration-just about sums up this country doesn't it ..


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  • #7
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    alastair wrote: »
    A. As far as taxation and VRT are concerned - it's 30 years old.
    B. As far as an obligation to NCT - that kicks in at 1980 or younger
    C. Anything over 30 years of age is considered classic as far as A goes.
    D. Classic VRT is a nominal flat fee - 50 euro iirc - regardless of whether it's considered a classic in it's home turf or not.
    E. If it's coming from outside the EU, it'll be subject to import duty.
    And VAT at 21% of the cost of the car PLUS transport costs.


  • #8
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    PaulK_CCI wrote: »
    Actually, the VRT IS an exemption ;). The VRO classes the 50 euro's (soon to be 200 euro's) as a fixed ADMIN FEE, not a Tax. So in theory cars over 30 years old ARE exempt from paying the Vehicle Registration Tax, but will only be required to pay a fixed admin fee...

    So the lovely folk give waive that admin fee under transfer of residence or inheritance of an out-of-state vehicle?

    Tell you what. You carry on calling it an admin fee and I'll call it VRT.

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    :rolleyes:


  • #9
    PaulK_CCI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭PaulK_CCI


    macplaxton wrote: »
    Tell you what. You carry on calling it an admin fee and I'll call it VRT.
    It wasn't me that dreamed up the term ''admin fee" ;). I personally am not interested as to what people like to call it, because the end of the day it is a payment that has to be made, regardless of what label is put on it, and by increasing it to 200 euro's it's kinda hard to explain that away as an admin fee :eek:.

    I was merely repeating what I have always been told by the VRO officials themselves. I had a good few dealings with them over the last 15 years that I have been importing classic cars into Ireland (and when it was still possible to actually contact the 'magical Rosslare head office' yourself :D) and this was always how they looked at the situation.

    In most other European countries, cars over 25 or 30 years are entirely exempt, and I guess the Irish felt they had to put some sort of value on it, and the officials always called it Admin Fee. It was actually a phrase used on the old Revenue pages too, but they're no longer on line....


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