construction work in oz

sky 1

im thinking of heading to oz for work in the next few weeks,as i can not get any construction work here.was just woundering is it all made out to what its suppose to be ie,big money,good jobs etc:rolleyes:,i have just done 5 years in construction management in college and have 10 years on site experience but a friend of mine who was over there said my papers are not worth the paper there writen on as the have different building regs, laws , h&s etc:mad:

whats the going rate over there!
whats the best spot to go for work!
is living over there expensive!
what are the ups and downs of working over there!
whats the best type of work to get into!
im looking for €1600 euro a week min job,dont mind the hours

have been checking out this link http://www.seek.com.au/
and been sending off cv but noting came out of it so kind of pissed off, any other good links

any help welcome

Cuddlesworth

sky 1 wrote: »

im looking for €1600 euro a week min job,dont mind the hours

Think I just pissed myself laughing. I would drop your wage expectation to begin with.

watna

Did you mean e1600 a month? That would be a little more realistic.

Hydro 69.

1600 euro a week. You must be on the same white powder that Gerry Ryan was takeing. Powerfull stuff. Would you cop on to yourself son.

HHH

Hold on before bashing the guy. If he was to work 6 days a week he could get up to maybe €1400. €1600 is a bit farfetched. My buddy drives a digger out there and he's on €1200 a week. Tho he leaves for work at half 4 in the morning and is home at half 6 in the evening. The OP did state he didn't mind the hours he had to work.

Batgurl

You'll probably get more constructive advice on the Australia & New Zealand forum - maybe ask a mod to move it for you.

On topic - If you mean AUS$1600 per week, in construction in Oz, thats quite doable.

I know someone with similar qualifications to you who is getting 85k AUS $ which roughly works out as 1600 per week (pre-tax).

However, you won't find an Australian job in Ireland. You will need to get yourself out to Oz. You're more likely to get work quicker on the West Coast but be prepared to wait about a month before you start once you get out there because employers take their time in the hiring process.

If you can't afford to wait around to find work, don't go.

Queensland might also be an option as they will be looking for people to help them rebuild from the recent flooding. However, I really doubt you will get anything while still in Ireland.

Cuddlesworth

HHH wrote: »

Hold on before bashing the guy. If he was to work 6 days a week he could get up to maybe €1400. €1600 is a bit farfetched. My buddy drives a digger out there and he's on €1200 a week. Tho he leaves for work at half 4 in the morning and is home at half 6 in the evening. The OP did state he didn't mind the hours he had to work.

Most company's would refuse those hours. Your allowed work a maximum of 48 hours a week. As for your mate, I hope he is saving hard. Those monkey jobs get caught up with eventually.

sky 1

thanks for the info,the mines are supposr to be the place where the big money is,is this true

any good links to see is there job openings there

HHH

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Most company's would refuse those hours. Your allowed work a maximum of 48 hours a week. As for your mate, I hope he is saving hard. Those monkey jobs get caught up with eventually.

Well he's in the same job for the last 4 years!! Monkey job?? You're a nuclear physicist yourself then? What digger driver is on €1200 here???

gsxr1

I have a block layer friend who made 120,000 last year in OZ. Whats that in real money?

HHH

€88,690.00 Great money to be made if you're willing to work for it.

6679

How the hell are they paid so much? Why did I bother going to college if a bricky can earn €90k a year?

gsxr1

6679 wrote: »

How the hell are they paid so much? Why did I bother going to college if a bricky can earn €90k a year?

Because people need a roof over there heads more than they need collage grads.

A tradesman works just as hard as anyone to become good at their job.

investment

gsxr1 wrote: »

Because people need a roof over there heads more than they need collage grads.

A tradesman works just as hard as anyone to become good at their job.

Most builders are usually uneducated.

6679

gsxr1 wrote: »

Because people need a roof over there heads more than they need collage grads.

A tradesman works just as hard as anyone to become good at their job.

I am not having a go at tradesmen or anything as its hard physical work but not exactly rocket science.

Look at it this way after a bricky completes their apprenticeship they are pretty much finished learning. While for me I will always have to keep learning as technology keeps changing and after 25 years I highly doubt I would be on anything near €90k while going by this thread a bricky would be in a position to charge it after 2 or so years.

I could understand €35 maybe €40k but €90k is just taking the piss.

mfceiling

investment wrote: »

Most builders are usually uneducated.

Absolute bollix.

How can someone who is uneducated read drawings, work out quotations, file vat, paye and tax returns and run a business - advertising etc if they are uneducated.

I work in construction and i can hold my own with anyone in so called "professional jobs" - like the "professionals" i met at a wedding last year - one who thought people from greece were called grecians. One who didn't get the joke about a german guy who tried for world domination in 1939 (overheard asking his wife "who are they talking about"). This was at a table with accountants, teachers and a civil servant - most of whom were thick as shít to be honest.

Carpenter

investment wrote: »

Most builders are usually uneducated.

Who told you this :mad:

sky 1

investment wrote: »

Most builders are usually uneducated.

hahaha u got that very very very wrong mate,if any thing its the othere way around:p and if u ask me the trades men are even smarter again(university of life and common sense is a good man).
have a chat with a builder,developer, or a trades man some day for your self and u will soon find out that they could put u in your place very fast

o and @ Hydro 69. have a look here in this link for your self,i think the joke is on u now buddy,$150k plus:D http://www.seek.com.au/JobSearch?DateRange=31&industry=1206&nation=3000&salary=150000-&SearchFrom=quick

any way all im looking for is more info on oz

investment

Carpenter wrote: »

Who told you this :mad:

My Teachers were always laughing at the builders in our school saying "If you dont work hard guys you'll end up like does thick ***** out there"

Cuddlesworth

sky 1 wrote: »

hahaha u got that very very very wrong mate,if any thing its the othere way around:p and if u ask me the trades men are even smarter again(university of life and common sense is a good man).
have a chat with a builder,developer, or a trades man some day for your self and u will soon find out that they could put u in your place very fast

You don't argue with stupid people, they bring you down to their level and beat you on experience.

sky 1 wrote: »

o and @ Hydro 69. have a look here in this link for your self,i think the joke is on u now buddy,$150k plus:D http://www.seek.com.au/JobSearch?DateRange=31&industry=1206&nation=3000&salary=150000-&SearchFrom=quick

From what I see, they are nearly all Engineering jobs or site Manager jobs. And since you have a degree in Site Management, then you should be aware that 90% of the construction workforce would be completely unable to do that job.

sky 1 wrote: »

any way all im looking for is more info on oz

High levels of immigration, loads of space, cheap Asian Labour and a booming population. Sounds great for a construction industry(Ireland late 90's?). If I was jobless and looking for work in the field I would be over in a shot. Highly unlikely you would get anything from here, even a response.

mfceiling wrote: »

Absolute bollix.

How can someone who is uneducated read drawings, work out quotations, file vat, paye and tax returns and run a business - advertising etc if they are uneducated.

Because a stupid person can do all the above if forced into the situation. I worked with a illiterate who read drawings through visual clues, who guesstimated quotations and pay'd a accountant to do his books. I could do his job, he couldn't do mine in a second. And mine isn't particularly complicated compared to roles I would like to do.

mfceiling wrote: »

I work in construction and i can hold my own with anyone in so called "professional jobs" - like the "professionals" i met at a wedding last year - one who thought people from greece were called grecians. One who didn't get the joke about a german guy who tried for world domination in 1939 (overheard asking his wife "who are they talking about"). This was at a table with accountants, teachers and a civil servant - most of whom were thick as shít to be honest.

And did you ask them about their jobs. Could you have done them? Isn't that a real marker of adaptation and intelligence. Whether or not you can actually do what they do? I finished up my work career in Construction at the healthy age of 23. I wanted to be challenged in life, not to spend my days moving a brick from A to B in a basic pattern. Technology is fast paced enough to do that for me. On the other side, I work in a financial services firm and have no intention of going through six years of college, four years of training and twenty years of 8am-8pm seven days a week to succeed.

iffy_2007

Friends of mine working in Darwin, money is good, rents are cheap compared to other cities. One of them is a quaintity surveyor, said that there will be plenty of work there for the forseeable future as they are restructuring the urban areas in the city, building new towns, might be work a look.

Carpenter

investment wrote: »

My Teachers were always laughing at the builders in our school saying "If you dont work hard guys you'll end up like does thick ***** out there"

You sound like a nice little boy.

mickman

6679 wrote: »

How the hell are they paid so much? Why did I bother going to college if a bricky can earn €90k a year?

because when they have feked up their back by the age of 40 , you will be working away for another 25 years to make up the difference

mikemac

mfceiling wrote: »

One who didn't get the joke about a german guy who tried for world domination in 1939 (overheard asking his wife "who are they talking about").

Maybe he was expecting the joke to be about an Austrian guy

eire2009

feelingstressed wrote: »

Maybe he was expecting the joke to be about an Austrian guy