Eddie Stobart Ireland rail freight?

joegriffinjnr

Eddie Stobart is expanding in Ireland at some rate, while browsing their website, I came across this.

Stobart (Ireland) Rail Ltd will develop opportunities in rail infrastructure engineering in Ireland concerning the repair, maintenance and development of Ireland’s rail network. It will also explore rail freight options and the chance to move goods from road to rail in an environmentally friendly fashion.

seanmacc

There is a lot of here-say and rumour going on that they are part of a consortium of freight companies and brokers trying to launch a ro-ro freight service from Cork - Bilbao or Northern Spain by the end of the year.

Davy

They have some amount of tractor units on the road lately too

Judgement Day

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Eddie Stobart is expanding in Ireland at some rate, while browsing their website, I came across this.

Any chance of a link to that? I had a quick look over their site and while not seeing that item, I was stunned by the range of their rail operations. I had no idea they were involved in Per Way contracting.

joegriffinjnr

Any chance of a link to that? I had a quick look over their site and while not seeing that item, I was stunned by the range of their rail operations. I had no idea they were involved in Per Way contracting.

Yes no problems, its on this page :
http://www.stobartgroup.co.uk/Services/Ireland/Stobart-Ireland-Fleet/

Im in the transport buisness myself, a lot of talk of Stobarts paying its drivers feck all. They are good at what they do and their trucks do look well. They have a base in Dublin Port with a few more around the country opening soon. I left Santry for Bray yesterday, I counted fifteen stobart trucks along the M50. There is a great documentry on ch 5 i player about them very intresting about twenty eposides altogether.

Judgement Day

Thanks for the link. One thing about Eddie Stobart is they know about branding/marketing unlike CIE. If the railway network is 'eventually' opened up to other operators they will surely be in there.

ThisRegard

Davy wrote: »

They have some amount of tractor units on the road lately too

That's because they now have the contract for Tescos distribution in Ireland, probably all their trucks you see on the roads in Ireland are operating for Tesco Ireland.

Cookie_Monster

ThisRegard wrote: »

That's because they now have the contract for Tescos distribution in Ireland, probably all their trucks you see on the roads in Ireland are operating for Tesco Ireland.

Yep, they now operate all the cross Irish sea stuff and then distribute around Ireland also.

Did they replace Keelings from the Ballymun Warehouse, or are they operating everything out of Donabate also does anyone know? Its been a while since I worked for them so not fully up to date.

joegriffinjnr

The Ballymun depo is quite busy with Stobart trucks. You could see a stobart truck going in or out of the depo every couple of minutes.

joegriffinjnr

Regarding Keelings, I have seen Stobart trucks pulling Keelings trailers. Im told they have more than the Tesco contract in Ireland. Im not sure but the may have the Coca Cola one aswell. I wonder how long it will be before a Stobart Ireland fanclub is launched!

Judgement Day

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Regarding Keelings, I have seen Stobart trucks pulling Keelings trailers. Im told they have more than the Tesco contract in Ireland. Im not sure but the may have the Coca Cola one aswell. I wonder how long it will be before a Stobart Ireland fanclub is launched!

Oh please - having the IRRS is bad enough.

joegriffinjnr

Ha ha I know! There will be one soon enough mark my words.. not my cuppa tea though!

corktina

ooh lovely, can we get a boards forum for it do you think?

Judgement Day

corktina wrote: »

ooh lovely, can we get a boards forum for it do you think?

Here's a link for the UK one to keep you going.

http://www.clubstobart.co.uk/

corktina

...and they laugh at trainspotters!:D

Victor

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Im in the transport buisness myself, a lot of talk of Stobarts paying its drivers feck all.

All hauliers / transport companies are poor payers.

Judgement Day

Victor wrote: »

All hauliers / transport companies are poor payers.

The road haulage industry certainly has more than its fair share of cowboys http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-170010063.html but the political establishment think that a complete free for all is the way to go. FG will have buses 4 deep on inter-city routes before they are in office a wet weekend.

joegriffinjnr

All hauliers / transport companies are poor payers.

Jesas I must be lucky so. Im in the business years and Im not going to complain about the wages I get. Reports of Stobart artic drivers on the 500 mark a week! :eek:

Cookie_Monster

Judgement Day wrote: »

FG will have buses 4 deep on inter-city routes before they are in office a wet weekend.

and how is that any different to now? 4 145's, a 45 and 2 84x all within two mins of each other this morning on my commute to work

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Jesas I must be lucky so. Im in the business years and Im not going to complain about the wages I get. Reports of Stobart artic drivers on the 500 mark a week! :eek:

500 quid a week isn't exactly bad money in the current climate, 26k a year.
not great, but not bad.

-Corkie-

500 isnt great. My in law is a truck driver and he takes how 680 a week for legal hours. Stobart has some amount of trucks here though. He is cutting all the rates though on the smaller guys so wages are bound to suffer then.

mickydoomsux

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

500 quid a week isn't exactly bad money in the current climate, 26k a year.
not great, but not bad.

After tax that wouldn't be pretty.

shagal

i was lookin through the stobart vacancies last night ,a shunter driver on 4 on 4 off nights in crick in england are being offered 29600 pa sterling thats about 640-650 euro a week i dont think that is to bad

foggy_lad

shagal wrote: »

i was lookin through the stobart vacancies last night ,a shunter driver on 4 on 4 off nights in crick in england are being offered 29600 pa sterling thats about 640-650 euro a week i dont think that is to bad

Will they be offered the same salary here in Ireland though?

-Chris-

Any time I've seen similar posts advertised in UK & ROI (like Lidl/Aldi jobs etc.) the pay has been higher in ROI because of our higher cost of living.

I'm not sure if that'll be borne out nowadays, but it'll be interesting to see how they handle it.

cast_iron

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Im not sure but the may have the Coca Cola one aswell.

I think they might have being pulling for Coke before they got Tesco. I used to see them heading that way long before the current state of them being absolutely everywhere now.

Cookie_Monster

Stobart Rail Ireland


Assuming Leo gets his act together and allows open freight access to the network :pac:

corktina

Great idea. We can re-open the Kanturk line to serve Tesco Kanturk...oh no, wait a minute, it never happened did it due to Musgrave and their cronies so-called independent objections....no vested interests there.

Judgement Day

corktina wrote: »

Great idea. We can re-open the Kanturk line to serve Tesco Kanturk...oh no, wait a minute, it never happened did it due to Musgrave and their cronies so-called independent objections....no vested interests there.

With poor old G601 when it comes back from the Eastern Front.

-Corkie-

corktina wrote: »

Great idea. We can re-open the Kanturk line to serve Tesco Kanturk...oh no, wait a minute, it never happened did it due to Musgrave and their cronies so-called independent objections....no vested interests there.

Spot on. I ignore that place now.

corktina

Judgement Day wrote: »

With poor old G601 when it comes back from the Eastern Front.

Poor G601...do you reckon who ever now owns it might sell it to me? be great to see it home in kanturk, without the armour plating

Judgement Day

corktina wrote: »

Poor G601...do you reckon who ever now owns it might sell it to me? be great to see it home in kanturk, without the armour plating

I think that it will probably be exported out of the country (Downpatrick) eventually, especially now that the Irish Traction Group have acquired a new engine for it. The nearest it ever got to Kanturk since leaving was while it was stored at Bord na Mona (Littleton) circa 1993.

L1011

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Stobart Rail Ireland


Assuming Leo gets his act together and allows open freight access to the network :pac:

The EU has already forced open freight (and cross-border rail) access, hence the "network statement" with details on the CAWS system, radios, line speeds, etc that went around here a few months ago.

CaptainSkidmark

OUCH!

http://transportretort.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/heavy-snow-no-brakes-train-crash/

dowlingm

It's worth noting that Stobart owned none of the equipment in that incident. They didn't own the loco (Angel), the wagons (Porterbrook) employ the crew (DB Schenker) or own the track (Network Rail)

The tricky part in Ireland is it lacks the leasing companies which help such virtual operations to exist.

corktina

Judgement Day wrote: »

I think that it will probably be exported out of the country (Downpatrick) eventually, especially now that the Irish Traction Group have acquired a new engine for it. The nearest it ever got to Kanturk since leaving was while it was stored at Bord na Mona (Littleton) circa 1993.

it might make West Clare so then !

Cookie_Monster

Judgement Day wrote: »

I think that it will probably be exported out of the country (Downpatrick) eventually, especially now that the Irish Traction Group have acquired a new engine for it. The nearest it ever got to Kanturk since leaving was while it was stored at Bord na Mona (Littleton) circa 1993.

never mind G, there's a few of them knocking around. That the only B class we have left has been hidden down there forever and a day is crazy. All they seem to do with her is periodically repair the vandalism and weathering that builds up.

Cookie_Monster

dowlingm wrote: »

The tricky part in Ireland is it lacks the leasing companies which help such virtual operations to exist.

true and would be especially difficult to get them over and setup since IE own all the rolling stock and you can't just import more due to the gauge requirements.

CaptainSkidmark

dowlingm wrote: »

It's worth noting that Stobart owned none of the equipment in that incident. They didn't own the loco (Angel), the wagons (Porterbrook) employ the crew (DB Schenker) or own the track (Network Rail)

The tricky part in Ireland is it lacks the leasing companies which help such virtual operations to exist.

the Loco is the freighter version of the ones you see on the rails here aint it?

they used always be in and out of the docks i was on just outside rotterdam.

Cookie_Monster

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

the Loco is the freighter version of the ones you see on the rails here aint it?

ish

the class 66 and class 201 share a common base alright and the 201 is a slightly older version. Several differences though.

UK (and elsewhere)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_66

IRL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IE_201_Class

oharach

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12923203

Haulage magnate Eddie Stobart dies, aged 56


Eddie Stobart with Bernard Jenkin in 1999.


Haulage magnate Edward Stobart, who built up the Eddie Stobart lorry empire and ran it for more than 30 years, has died at the age of 56.
He suffered what were described as "heart problems" on Wednesday and died this morning in hospital in Coventry.
He took the business started by his father Eddie an built it into best known haulage company in the country.
Mr Stobart sold the firm to his brother William and business partner Andrew Tinkler in 2004.

-Chris-

That's a very young age - tragic.

It looks like he wasn't involved any more so I doubt it'll make any difference to the business, but pretty tragic for his family etc.

Cookie_Monster

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

never mind G, there's a few of them knocking around. That the only B class we have left has been hidden down there forever and a day is crazy. All they seem to do with her is periodically repair the vandalism and weathering that builds up.

http://www.irishtractiongroup.com/ITG_locos/loco_103.htm

103 life in pictures on the right of that page, pretty sorry looking. Pity it's wearing all black too, it looks really good in the Super train livery

EDIT: finally decided to get on with it and become a dribbler, just signed up to ITG