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EU statistics on housing?Irishtimes report

  • 23-02-2011 7:07pm
    #1
    RDM_83 again
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    In reference to the Irish times report

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0223/breaking34.html

    who's statistics come from here (I presume)

    http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Housing_statistics

    Could somebody explain some anomalies (were only pointed and only looked quickly myself but seem correct)

    Only 3.7% of people in Ireland live in flats or apartments.
    Population is 4.1 million
    therefore 165,000 people live in flats.

    If there's an average of 2 people living in each flat/apartment (which would seem a fairly safe bet too me considering students and families etc)

    thats only 80,000 occupied flats/apartments for the entire country.

    If all these people that lived in flats lived in Dublin city (population 500,000 wiki).

    That means that 1/3 in the city live in a flat or apartment (and thats considering no one else in the entire rest of the country lives in flat or apartment)

    Unoccupied apartments a few years ago were running at around 40,000.

    Will post back later with more ones that seem of but the statistic for that seem seriously flawed to me.


Comments

  • #2
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Just realised made an error there (don't know how got that figure), population living in flats should be 151,700, actually reinforces the point.


  • #3
    Macha
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    I'd say that stats are about right. Do you think they're wrong?


  • #4
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Extremely wrong, look at this link

    http://www.finfacts.ie/news/dublinapartments.htm

    40,000 appartments vacant in Dublin.

    If we believe the EU stats thats more than half the number number of occupied appartments/flats lying empty for the country in 2008 (and thats only counting Dublin country wide total number would have been much larger) and I know we've had a bad housing crash but simply walking around Dublin in 2008 would have confirmed that half the appartments were not empty.


  • #5
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,107 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Perhaps a walk through the more desirable areas will show high levels of occupation but there are many areas where there are whole blocks of unsold apartments. Many of the apartment blocks down by Grand Canal Dock are nearly completely empty for example. And that's before you get to the really undesirable areas like Mulhuddart etc.


  • #6
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Were the Grand Canal Dock appartments even completed at the time of the study (link-2008) A lot of the IFSC ones wouldn't have been. My figure of the half the appartments in Dublin being empty for the EU figures to make sense also assumes that nobody lives in a flat/appartment outside of Dublin.


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