How do you pronounce Fine Gael?

LordSutch

With Fine Gael poised to head the next government of this country, I thought it a good time to ask "How should you pronounce Fine Gael"?

An obvious & stupid question you might say? but I have heard several politicians in the last month saying Fine Gael (as in its a 'fine' day), like its a fine gale blowing there . . . but surely its an Irish word which is pronounced 'Finna' Gael. People who have mispronounced it range from Willie O'Dea (FF) to Sandra McLellan (SF) who said the (non standard) version several times on VB last week!

Anyone got the low down on how we should pronounce the name of the Party that will lead this country in the coming years?

Mental Mickey

B******s.

That's how.

mike65

Feena Gale

davetherave

Fee - na (as in NASA) Gale

Colm R

Please correct me if I am wrong. But I think its:

Fwina Gael


Always wondered why the blue shirts never retaliated with Fianna Fail (without the fada) when Willie says Fine (day) Gael.

Iron Hide

apparently 'Feena Gale' is the common mispronunciation, supposedly its more like 'Finna Gwale' or something similiar

LordSutch

This seems to be it, but then where do those politicians get Fine (rhyming with Wine) from ?

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=fine%20gael

novarock

I pronounce it "Gay-Haters"..

sensibleken

cúnts

aDeener

novarock wrote: »

I pronounce it "Gay-Haters"..

:rolleyes:

finneh gale

liah

LordSutch wrote: »

This seems to be it, but then where do those politicians get Fine (rhyming with Wyne) from ?

They may have read the word before hearing it pronounced and figured it sounded the same as it was spelled?

Though, that doesn't explain why they keep saying it..

--Kaiser--

Iron Hide wrote: »

supposedly its more like 'Finna Gwale' or something similiar

That's what I thought it was

ejmaztec

Wind and piss.

Tzetze

Toe-may-tah

upmeath

Finn(as in the people from the Baltic country)-eh Gwale

Dionysus

'Fine' is pronounced like the vast majority of words in Irish which end in an 'e', with an 'ah' sound - e.g. Gráinne, Aoife, Deirdre, etc.

'Gael' has a 'w' pronunciation when pronounced correctly, much closer to 'Gwale' than the English word 'Gale'.

'Finna Gwale' is a rough phonetic approximation.


Listen to RnaG, where there's currently a political discussion.

seamus

Pronunciations differ depending on dialect tbh.

In Dublin it's as plain as "Finna Gale". I'm sure in Gweedore it's something requiring plenty of phlegm like, "Fwee-ah-nak Gweeeale"

Dionysus

LordSutch wrote: »

This seems to be it, but then where do those politicians get Fine (rhyming with Wyne) from ?

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=fine%20gael

That's very much not how to pronounce it. Using an American website to pronounce an Irish word should instinctively be a bad idea, unless the American pronouncing it is Matt Mac Cárthaigh, an exceptional character indeed.

orourkeda

Those c*nts

novarock

novarock wrote: »

I pronounce it "Gay-Haters"..

they'll have my vote :pac:

AnonoBoy

New Overlords?

Dionysus

seamus wrote: »

Pronunciations differ depending on dialect tbh.

In Dublin it's as plain as "Finna Gale".

'Gale' is an anglicisation, not a regional Irish pronounciation akin to that in Gaoth Dobhair or Corca Dhuibhne.

Krusader

Fin-eh G(w)ayl

Celly Smunt

Feeeeeanneh gayul,speak proper dublinese

123balltv

I pronounce it fina gail as english as I can

seamus

Dionysus wrote: »

'Gale' is an anglicisation, not a regional Irish pronounciation akin to that in Gaoth Dobhair or Corca Dhuibhne.

Any pronunciation, regardless of where it came from or how wrong it is, is a dialect if it persists for long enough in a given population. I would submit that "Gale" is in general usage in Leinster and has been for so long that it's a valid pronunciation in the leinster dialect.

The pronounciation of "Ask" as "Axe" for example has been long accepted as being part of regional english dialects despite being just plain wrong (though has unfortunately started to gain usage outside of said regions).

Xivilai

I always thought the correct way to pronounce the party name was "Feena Gwayl"

mikemac

123balltv wrote: »

I pronounce it fina gail as english as I can

Me too

But Donegal folk have something different

Hannibal Smith

Tzetze wrote: »

Toe-may-tah

flippin hilarious :D:D:D

Oh, I pronounce it Finna Gale

sbsquarepants

LordSutch wrote: »

This seems to be it, but then where do those politicians get Fine (rhyming with Wyne) from ?

is that even a word?

thenutflush

finna gale

Only david davin power says finnah gwale, just like only he says fee-ana foyle.

Luxie

sbsquarepants wrote: »

is that even a word?

Yeah, I'm wondering what Fine Gael actually means? Do they have an English translation the way FF call themselves Soldiers of Destiny?

Luxie

Ah.

Fine Gael – The United Ireland Party, more commonly known as Fine Gael (, meaning Family of the Irish or Tribe of the Irish,) is the second largest political party in Ireland in terms of parliamentary seat numbers, the largest in terms of support according to all recent opinion polls

LordSutch

Just to reiterate, its the 'Fine' of Fine Gael that I am curious about.

As I have already mentioned in post#1, the 'Fine' is being pronounced by some Irish politicians as 'fine' as in (its a fine day), and surely this is just plane wrong?

Its correctly pronounced 'Finna Gael' as far as I know.

UrbanSea

I say it like 'fin-ah gaol',as in the irish for relationship,like 'gwhale'

Lawrence1895

Blueshirts

Iwannahurl

Feeney, Gail (Blueshirt Party).

alejandro1977

Fine: - Finn (as in person from Finland) -eh

Gael: - Gwael

it's amazing that the clowns giving out about the FG Irish policy can't pronounce the name of the party - which is similar to Gaeilge - the language they claim they love

Ruu_Old

Vay-hicle!

Aishae

'fine girls'

it sounds like fin gale - i think...

wurzlitzer

Up north they tend to pronounce it

"Fine" Gael

seagull

UrbanSea wrote: »

I say it like 'fin-ah gaol',

That's where we're hoping a bunch of the idle thieving bastards aka politicians end up.

xzanti

Finna Gale.

dlofnep

Depends on the dialect.

I say Finn-eh Gwayl. Some say "Finn-eh Gayl"

But it is never "Feena".

ejmaztec

Damp Squibs

Iwannahurl

Since so few people in this thread, in Ireland generally and in the party itself are willing or able to pronounce Fine Gael appropriately*, and since FG wants to abolish compulsory Irish in schools, perhaps a good start would be to change the name of the party to something more manageable in English.

Suggestions please.









*There are accepted regional variations. Click here and type in "Fine Gael" to hear a synthesised Gaoth Dobhair (Donegal) pronunciation.

Ruu_Old

ejmaztec wrote: »

Damp Squibs

I think you'll find it's damp squid. :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yffKvkt_s

teekayd25

Finna Gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggael.

MistyCheese

I referred this to my good friends at Google Translate and they responded with the following:

Fine Gael Irish to English

Helpful as always. Now for some beatboxing!!

WTF?