I Pad 1 and 2 Question ? Huh Flash

roboshatner · 23-02-2011 11:52am #1

Hey all I will be buying a i pad 2 dispite my complaints abouts apple over the years.

But in the end of the day its cheaper then most.

My Big question is.....

Does apple support Flash ?

I would like to go back to college and do muilti media and web design.

So say if Im making websites and making flash stuff will it work on it.

Basq · 23-02-2011 11:53am

No, it won't support natively Flash.

You can use a third-party tool called Frash but it's buggy and unreliable at best!

roboshatner · 23-02-2011 12:02pm

so basically the i pads basically for viewing and not doing proper college work on.

Basq · 23-02-2011 12:09pm

I wouldn't call the iPad a "work tool" to be honest.

I mean don't get me wrong.. it has an Office suite and the capabilities to be worthwhile as a tool for working on.. but it's just not suitable IMO, even with a keyboard dock.

PS - oh and speaking as a fellow web developer (who has also dabbled in Flash), I do think it's time to move away from Flash websites. Flash games / applications are still fair game but iOS is too powerful to ignore. Do you really want a website to be rendered unviewable on iPad/iPhone etc? Just my opinion of course. Read up on some HTML5.

naasrd · 23-02-2011 12:36pm

roboshatner wrote: »

so basically the i pads basically for viewing and not doing proper college work on.

No. I do a lot of work on mine. You're probably better off with a bog standard PC laptop to be honest.

banquo · 23-02-2011 1:18pm

roboshatner wrote: »

so basically the i pads basically for viewing and not doing proper college work on.

I actually find it great for college. However, if you're doing a project specifically on Flash, then the iPad is no good to you I'm afraid.

rivalius13 · 23-02-2011 1:38pm

If you're making a website and using flash you suck at web design.

Fat_Fingers · 24-02-2011 11:27am

rivalius13 wrote: »

If you're making a website and using flash you suck at web design.

Personal insults and “i know it best” should be left for after hours.

Johnmb · 24-02-2011 11:54am

Fat_Fingers wrote: »

Personal insults and “i know it best” should be left for after hours.

It is true though. Flash, much like Frontpage used to be, is for people like me to make a website. A proper web designer shouldn't be relying on Flash, except maybe as a relatively small component for subscription based streaming or something along those lines.

Dades · 24-02-2011 3:10pm

Johnmb wrote: »

It is true though. Flash, much like Frontpage used to be, is for people like me to make a website. A proper web designer shouldn't be relying on Flash, except maybe as a relatively small component for subscription based streaming or something along those lines.

Sure maybe you shouldn't rely on it, but flash still has loads of uses outside of big vector graphic sites.

Though given the attitude here it really seems like Apple are having a big say in Flash being pushed out of the market. Like some self-fulfilling prophesy, Apple media devices won't display flash as it's a defunct technology - thereby making that technology defunct as it won't display on 'hot' media devices.

mad muffin · 24-02-2011 4:50pm

Show me another tablet devise that supports flash.

Basq · 24-02-2011 5:23pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Show me another tablet devise that supports flash.

Don't the Samsung Galaxy Tab's support Flash? I could be wrong, but I heard they did.

EDIT: Yep, certainly appears to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-TPvllj8fs

Fat_Fingers · 24-02-2011 5:42pm

Motorola Xoom is waiting for Flash 10.2 upgrade.

I think Dell Streak does run Flash so does Notion Ink Adam

Point of View does run Flash, not bad for 300 euro
they run out of stock of Point of View on Komplett

MacGyver · 24-02-2011 7:50pm

archos 101 works with flash although not officially, it can be installed really easily from the android market.

rivalius13 · 24-02-2011 8:35pm

Fat_Fingers wrote: »

Personal insults and “i know it best” should be left for after hours.

That wasn't a personal insult. That was a general insult to anyone who thinks it's a good idea to design a website in Flash.

whiterebel · 24-02-2011 8:41pm

Dades wrote: »

Sure maybe you shouldn't rely on it, but flash still has loads of uses outside of big vector graphic sites.

Though given the attitude here it really seems like Apple are having a big say in Flash being pushed out of the market. Like some self-fulfilling prophesy, Apple media devices won't display flash as it's a defunct technology - thereby making that technology defunct as it won't display on 'hot' media devices.

I don't know what its like on PCs, but on macs flash is a pig. If your fans kick in, processors run amok and battery life goes out the window, you can guarantee there will flash running on. I can't blame Apple for not changing everything for such a flawed design?

rivalius13 · 24-02-2011 9:07pm

whiterebel wrote: »

I don't know what its like on PCs, but on macs flash is a pig. If your fans kick in, processors run amok and battery life goes out the window, you can guarantee there will flash running on. I can't blame Apple for not changing everything for such a flawed design?

Flash on anything that's not 32-bit windows blows balls.

Gregor Samsa · 24-02-2011 10:02pm

rivalius13 wrote: »

If you're making a website and using flash you suck at web design.

All depends on the website. If you're talking about the average corporate or personal site, then you're probably right - Flash isn't the right approach. But try making Club Penguin or Farmville in HTML/CSS/JS and see how far you get.

I'm a web developer for a major e-commerce company, and I haven't needed to launch my copy of Flash in over two years (we do use Flash occasionally for merchandising - and I'm not really a fan of it from a development or user point of view). But any web developer worth his salt wouldn't dismiss Flash completely out of hand. Despite the hype, HTML 5 - cool and all as it's shaping up to be - isn't the end all and be all of interactive web design.

rivalius13 · 24-02-2011 11:41pm

phutyle wrote: »

All depends on the website. If you're talking about the average corporate or personal site, then you're probably right - Flash isn't the right approach. But try making Club Penguin or Farmville in HTML/CSS/JS and see how far you get.

I'm a web developer for a major e-commerce company, and I haven't needed to launch my copy of Flash in over two years (we do use Flash occasionally for merchandising - and I'm not really a fan of it from a development or user point of view). But any web developer worth his salt wouldn't dismiss Flash completely out of hand. Despite the hype, HTML 5 - cool and all as it's shaping up to be - isn't the end all and be all of interactive web design.

Flash games =/= flash websites. **** every restaurant, nightclub, hotel that thinks it's a good idea to use flash. **** them all. AND NO I DON'T WANT A .PDF MENU I WANT A ****ING WEBPAGE YOU BASTARDS.

Sorry, needed to vent.

Johnmb · 24-02-2011 11:52pm

Dades wrote: »

Sure maybe you shouldn't rely on it, but flash still has loads of uses outside of big vector graphic sites.

Though given the attitude here it really seems like Apple are having a big say in Flash being pushed out of the market. Like some self-fulfilling prophesy, Apple media devices won't display flash as it's a defunct technology - thereby making that technology defunct as it won't display on 'hot' media devices.

In my defense, I was anti-flash long before I got my first Mac, and quite a while before the first iPhone was announced. I used Firefox on computers running XP, and the first plugin I always added was a Flash blocker. I do the same now with Safari, I use the Click to Flash blocker, and there are only a few sites that I allow the Flash to work on, only one of which isn't for streaming.

I Pad 1 and 2 Question ? Huh Flash

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