In life, do you think it all depends of what side of the coin/fence you're on?

LighterGuy

Its something I guess I have been thinking / noticing the last while in my own life. I guess i am making this post after reading the thread in After Hours about 'FG looking to cut 18,000 or so Public Sector workers' ... the thread was met by alot of people who would rather see a percentage on the dole. Begrudary in my opinion. Because if they themselves were in the Public sector or had a family member in it would they be singing the same tune? (for the record i'm on the dole :P my opinion is not biast towards the public sector)

but as i say, that got me thinking to 'what side of the coin' mentality. So whats your thoughts? Do you think your average person has the 'side of the coin' mentality? ...

starbelgrade

LighterGuy wrote: »

Do you think your average person has the 'side of the coin' mentality? ...

Yes.

No.

Perhaps.

Dudess

Well your perspective is bound to be shaped by your circumstances, but I don't think that's any excuse for not putting yourself in others' shoes. For instance, all the vitriol directed towards those on the dole, even those who are on it through no fault of their own - the way some people refuse to acknowledge that they would be in the same boat if they were laid off (and at the moment, it could happen) is baffling...

Dangerous Man

I do. But as Dudess has aptly pointed out - that shouldn't blinker our perspective either. What Ireland REALLY needs now is an ability to understand who the real victims are in our society and to support them. We haven't done very well in this regard so far.

minidazzler

I don't believe in that born on the wrong side of the tracks business. Not in this country at least, with how good our education system is, given it's mostly free, everyone has a good shot at being successful in a workplace enviroment if they have the drive to be.

I also think everyone when born here has the ability to lead a very happy life, not that everyone could be a billionaire, but if they wanted to travel the world, it's not "that" hard to do as a backpacker.

The only way wrong side of the tracks comes in is because people don't believe they can do it so they don't even try. I blame yoda, little sh1t saying "do or do not, there is no try" what an ass! :P

But yeah, I believe while everyone may not be born into a life of wealth, we are the masters of our own destiny, but slaves to our ambition.

The Gnome

starbelgrade wrote: »

Yes.

No.

Perhaps.

You forgot some! :pac:

As I see it, yes.
It is certain
It is decidedly so
Most likely
Outlook good
Signs point to yes
Without a doubt
You may rely on it
Reply hazy, try again
Ask again later
Better not tell you now
Cannot predict now
Concentrate and ask again
Don't count on it
My reply is no
My sources say no
Outlook not so good
Very doubtful.

LighterGuy

LighterGuy wrote: »

Its something I guess I have been thinking / noticing the last while in my own life. I guess i am making this post after reading the thread in After Hours about 'FG looking to cut 18,000 or so Public Sector workers' ... the thread was met by alot of people who would rather see a percentage on the dole. Begrudary in my opinion. Because if they themselves were in the Public sector or had a family member in it would they be singing the same tune? (for the record i'm on the dole :P my opinion is not biast towards the public sector)

but as i say, that got me thinking to 'what side of the coin' mentality. So whats your thoughts? Do you think your average person has the 'side of the coin' mentality? ...

I've tried and tried but I don't understand the bolded part.

K-9

minidazzler wrote: »

I don't believe in that born on the wrong side of the tracks business. Not in this country at least, with how good our education system is, given it's mostly free, everyone has a good shot at being successful in a workplace enviroment if they have the drive to be.

I also think everyone when born here has the ability to lead a very happy life, not that everyone could be a billionaire, but if they wanted to travel the world, it's not "that" hard to do as a backpacker.

The only way wrong side of the tracks comes in is because people don't believe they can do it so they don't even try. I blame yoda, little sh1t saying "do or do not, there is no try" what an ass! :P

But yeah, I believe while everyone may not be born into a life of wealth, we are the masters of our own destiny, but slaves to our ambition.

It must be hard if you were born in certain disadvantaged areas with parents that just didn't know any better though. Many do get out but to me, some just never get a chance.

I think because the majority haven't experienced those conditions, some just don't have the social intelligence to empathise with that. Or maybe I'm just a leftie liberal!

chucken1

I tried.. but Ive a pain in my eyes-brain-self

chucken1

Deleted User wrote: »

I've tried and tried but I don't understand the bolded part.

I dont believe you're in the Philippines

chucken1

chucken1 wrote: »

I dont believe you're in the Philippines

I'm currently sitting in a Tesol course classroom in Cebu watching a guy teach three 14 year old Filipinos. I just taught them descriptive nouns a while ago.

chucken1

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm currently sitting in a Tesol course classroom in Cebu watching a guy teach three 14 year old Filipinos. I just taught them descriptive nouns a while ago.

Are you going teaching? Madly enough, I beleive you...sigh

mayoman ngalway

The Gnome wrote: »

You forgot some! :pac:

As I see it, yes.
It is certain
It is decidedly so
Most likely
Outlook good
Signs point to yes
Without a doubt
You may rely on it
Reply hazy, try again
Ask again later
Better not tell you now
Cannot predict now
Concentrate and ask again
Don't count on it
My reply is no
My sources say no
Outlook not so good
Very doubtful.

is that not a magic 8ball.
and they are talking about coins and fences

chucken1

chucken1 wrote: »

Are you going teaching? Madly enough, I beleive you...sigh

Yea, flights booked back to Vietnam for the 8th March

Nothingbetter2d

Deleted User wrote: »

Yea, flights booked back to Vietnam for the 8th March

don't let the door hit ya on the way out. can we cut ya of the dole now?

The Gnome

mayoman ngalway wrote: »

is that not a magic 8ball.
and they are talking about coins and fences

Balls, fences, coins. I know which I'd rather have...

Nothingbetter2d

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

don't let the door hit ya on the way out. can we cut ya of the dole now?

What the fuk? I've been out of the country since September and was working for 25 months before that paying plenty of income tax.

Anyways, thread back on topic.

Gummy Panda

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm currently sitting in a Tesol course classroom in Cebu watching a guy teach three 14 year old Filipinos. I just taught them descriptive nouns a while ago.

Have you seen smokey mountain yet?

Sam Vimes

LighterGuy wrote: »

Its something I guess I have been thinking / noticing the last while in my own life. I guess i am making this post after reading the thread in After Hours about 'FG looking to cut 18,000 or so Public Sector workers' ... the thread was met by alot of people who would rather see a percentage on the dole. Begrudary in my opinion. Because if they themselves were in the Public sector or had a family member in it would they be singing the same tune? (for the record i'm on the dole :P my opinion is not biast towards the public sector)

but as i say, that got me thinking to 'what side of the coin' mentality. So whats your thoughts? Do you think your average person has the 'side of the coin' mentality? ...

You don't think it could have anything to do with acknowledging that the country can't afford to pay those 18,000 civil servants no?

I say this as someone with family and friends working in the civil service btw

Gummy Panda

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Have you seen smokey mountain yet?

Nope, what is it?

Gummy Panda

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope, what is it?

Some massive Landfill near manila which is always partial on fire and has people living on it.

Filipino in work showed us pictures of it.

Hate Manila.. Wouldn't spend enough time there to ever find it.!