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irish citizenship/naturalisation + Wedding

  • 22-02-2011 8:51am
    #1
    Framework
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭


    Hi All,

    A female family member of mine has decided to marry a refugee.I am a little suspicious of all this.Basically because he is only 20 shes is only 26 and they have only known each other less than a year.I am trying to figure if there could be alterior motives.

    Will marrying her entitle him to become an Irish Citizen?
    Will it entitle him to claim social welfare?

    Thanks

    F


Comments

  • #2
    moco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭moco


    I don't know about social welfare, but marrying him won't entitle him to Irish citizenship. That was done away with years ago. www.justice.ie will give you the info.


  • #3
    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Framework wrote: »
    Hi All,

    A female family member of mine has decided to marry a refugee.I am a little suspicious of all this.Basically because he is only 20 shes is only 26 and they have only known each other less than a year.I am trying to figure if there could be alterior motives.

    Have you directed these questions towards your family member?
    She'd be in a better position to tell you what is going on in her relationship.


  • #4
    Framework
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Framework


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    Have you directed these questions towards your family member?
    She'd be in a better position to tell you what is going on in her relationship.


    Whatever happened to answering the questions asked. If I need advice on how to deal with my family member I will ask


  • #5
    magneticimpulse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Well i dont think people can give you complete legal advice here.

    However if this person is a refugee...did they leave their country for war reasons? Can they prove they cannot return to their country? In which case they might be entitled to Irish Citzenship anyway. I have a friend who left Bosnia in the 90s and had to be given new Citzenship because the then Yugoslavia no longer existed.

    So no one here can really give you advice, because the persons situation can depend on a number of things.

    If they are illegal in Ireland, then you might consider reporting them. However its up to you whether you would want to go down that road.


  • #6
    Monife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Framework wrote: »
    Whatever happened to answering the questions asked. If I need advice on how to deal with my family member I will ask

    If he is a refugee (declared so by the Minister of Justice), then once he has completed 3 years residence as a refugee he can apply for citizenship himself. If he is a refugee, he already can access the social welfare system if he so wishes.

    If he is an asylum seeker (failed or awaiting decision on his case) then currently he has no entitlements to citizenship and the only entitlement to social welfare is a payment of €19.10 per week.

    Also, marriage to an Irish citizen does not confer automatic rights to citizenship anymore. The non-national would need to get married to the Irish national and then submit an application to the Irish Immigration and Naturalisation service for residency, which could take up to a year and extensive documentation proving their cohabitation and relationship would be needed. If he is already legal in the country (as a refugee) then he already has residency and the right to work.

    Once married to an Irish citizen for 3 years, the non-national can then apply for citizenship but of course will have to prove the relationship is subsisting. Citizenship applications can take anything between 2 - 4 years (4 in rare cases) to process. So he would need to be in a married relationship for at least 5 years to gain citizenship through marriage.


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