what to do if you can't afford certain software instruments?

whoopdedoo

I know most are available online on one site or another but what about the likes of NI komplete etc.

I'm unemployed at the minute and have devoted a lot of time to producing lately and have been trying my hand at subtractive synthesis so I can have all my own sounds. after sorting a pretty decent kick, snare and high hat I turn to a cymbal only to find out about sample synthesis.

this leads me to the software above but won't be in a position to buy for a while.

seannash

Whilst not trying to discourage you from making your own sounds you could just use samples for those sounds you cant synthesize yourself and the use freeware synths for all your leads/bass/pads etc.

Theres no shame in using one shot samples

whoopdedoo

seannash wrote: »

Whilst not trying to discourage you from making your own sounds you could just use samples for those sounds you cant synthesize yourself and the use freeware synths for all your leads/bass/pads etc.

Theres no shame in using one shot samples

true but sample synthesis seems to be the way forward really. I really don't want to use any untouched samples as the timbre etc will be someone elses design and then ya might not have permission to use the sample in the first place.

seannash

true but sample synthesis seems to be the way forward really

Not sure if you mean its the way forward for you or do you mean its the future of music production

I really don't want to use any untouched samples as the timbre etc will be someone elses design and then ya might not have permission to use the sample in the first place

Not quite sure your aware how one shot samples work
Noone is going to sue you for using a kick,snare,hat sample as its virtually impossible to define individual hits,plus your going to be eq'ing it.
Also the timbre thing has never really hampered me.

theres plenty of sample packs out there,all legal for you to use too
Were not talking about using loops,its simply a short sample.

As for the synths head to kvr and grab what freebie synths you find appealing

dubsbhoy

What's the point in having the internet if you can't download stuff for free or as the feds like to say ILLEGALLY

ironclaw

dubsbhoy wrote: »

What's the point in having the internet if you can't download stuff for free or as the feds like to say ILLEGALLY

Suppose because someone put in hours of hard work and effort to make it. I used to download music / samples etc illegally but gave it all up. Its pointless. It would be like someone stealing from a shop or asking you to work for free because they don't feel like paying you.

dubsbhoy

ironclaw wrote: »

Suppose because someone put in hours of hard work and effort to make it. I used to download music / samples etc illegally but gave it all up. Its pointless. It would be like someone stealing from a shop or asking you to work for free because they don't feel like paying you.

Good for you

whoopdedoo

dubsbhoy wrote: »

What's the point in having the internet if you can't download stuff for free or as the feds like to say ILLEGALLY

show me a working link to NI komplete 7 so and we can all dl if we wish

it's not to be got and I've looked

ironclaw

whoopdedoo wrote: »

show me a working link to NI komplete 7 so and we can all dl if we wish

it's not to be got and I've looked

The serials and authentication are pretty secure. Also you need to find someone willing to rip and upload the software.

cheesemaker

Free minimoog, you don't need anything else...

electrogrimey

dubsbhoy wrote: »

What's the point in having the internet if you can't download stuff for free or as the feds like to say ILLEGALLY

dubsbhoy wrote: »

Good for you

Are you serious or are you just trolling?

dubsbhoy

electrogrimey wrote: »

Are you serious or are you just trolling?

Honestly ?

Are you serious ?

How the **** do very "cleverly" quote two posts and then come up with something stupid like trolling ?

BaZmO*

It's actually quite easy to multi-quote, not much intelligence required really.

dubsbhoy

BaZmO* wrote: »

It's actually quite easy to multi-quote, not much intelligence required really.

the "" didn't give away my sarcasm then ?

BaZmO*

dubsbhoy wrote: »

the "" didn't give away my sarcasm then ?

Oh, I need the "" to show sarcasm? Ok then.....

"It's actually quite easy to multi-quote, not much intelligence required really"

dubsbhoy

BaZmO* wrote: »

Oh, I need the "" to show sarcasm? Ok then.....

"It's actually quite easy to multi-quote, not much intelligence required really"

Hysterical

BaZmO*

dubsbhoy wrote: »

Hysterical

Why thank you Mr. Wilde

electrogrimey

Ok then, I'll say it plainly. Does the following represent your honest opinion:

dubsbhoy wrote: »

What's the point in having the internet if you can't download stuff for free or as the feds like to say ILLEGALLY

Because if so, you hold the most immature and ignorant opinion of the internet I've ever heard.

Logical Fallacy

electrogrimey wrote: »

Because if so, you hold the most immature and ignorant opinion of the internet I've ever heard.

Clearly you have never spent time in AH.

dubsbhoy

electrogrimey wrote: »

Ok then, I'll say it plainly. Does the following represent your honest opinion:



Because if so, you hold the most immature and ignorant opinion of the internet I've ever heard.

As i can't see the words moderator or admin under your username........

Press this button on a post if you think someone is trolling

the most immature and ignorant opinion of the internet I've ever heard.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Setun

<back on topic>

Don't know if you're the programming type OP, but why not try some of the open-source software for programming soud synthesis? I'd personally recommend Pure Data as it has a GUI interface, but there's also c-sound and supercollider if you prefer working with traditional code.

I should point out that pure data is very powerful and reasonably easy to understand if you already know anything about sound synthesis. It may look daunting but if you're interested I can post links to a few tutorials that will get you producing complex sounds very quickly.

whoopdedoo

Daddio wrote: »

<back on topic>

Don't know if you're the programming type OP, but why not try some of the open-source software for programming soud synthesis? I'd personally recommend Pure Data as it has a GUI interface, but there's also c-sound and supercollider if you prefer working with traditional code.

I should point out that pure data is very powerful and reasonably easy to understand if you already know anything about sound synthesis. It may look daunting but if you're interested I can post links to a few tutorials that will get you producing complex sounds very quickly.

this sounds good to me, not much experience programming but would defo give it a shot to get the complex sounds

Setun

whoopdedoo wrote: »

this sounds good to me, not much experience programming but would defo give it a shot to get the complex sounds

Here's the link: http://puredata.info/ It runs on any OS.

It's worth giving it some time - when you become adept with it there's not much you can't do, the only limits being your imagination and your soundcard ;)If you want any advice/tutorial links etc just PM me!

whoopdedoo

Daddio wrote: »

Here's the link: http://puredata.info/ It runs on any OS.

It's worth giving it some time - when you become adept with it there's not much you can't do, the only limits being your imagination and your soundcard ;)If you want any advice/tutorial links etc just PM me!

ok so i've dl this and taken a quick look online about creating drum sounds and it looks like what i've been after alright

pm'ing you now