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US army wants machine gun rubber bullets for crowd control

  • 19-02-2011 12:00am
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    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭


    http://publicintelligence.net/us-army-wants-machine-gun-rubber-bullets-for-crowd-control/

    or

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20927995.600-army-wants-rapidfire-rubber-bullets-for-crowd-control.html
    The US Army is planning to field “rubber bullets” for machine guns. Military officials claim the ammunition will allow them to more effectively quell violent protests without loss of life, but human rights campaigners are alarmed by the new weapon.
    The final design for the XM1044 round has not been selected, according to an order placed on the Federal Business Opportunities website last month, but the army’s Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate has been working on a ring aerofoil projectile for some years. The round is a hollow plastic cylinder 40 millimetres across, looking something like a short toilet-paper roll. In flight its shape generates lift, giving it a longer range.
    The army’s existing crowd-control rounds are single shots fired from handheld grenade launchers with a range of about 50 metres – the XM1044 would double this range. It would be supplied in belts for the Mk19 grenade launcher, a truck-mounted weapon that can fire almost six rounds per second. The Mk19 has been exported to some 30 countries, including Egypt.
    “The US army has a requirement for a rapid-fire non-lethal capability,” says Ken Schulters, project manager for close combat systems at Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey. “All currently fielded non-lethal ammunition is single shot.”

    This is scary! Are the yanks worried that popular uprisings could spread to the US and where else could these turn up...here possibly (removes tinfoil hat)


Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Probably want to sell it to the middle east


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Man loses eye from rubber-bullet during riots shocker!!

    Suppose it's nicer than the occasional shooting or beating protesters stone dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    US army wants machine gun rubber bullets for crowd control

    Missing word is ''their''. More weapons exports from the nice armaments dealers of the US


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Khyra24


    Machine gun rubber bullets?! Awesome! We should create rubber bullets for bazookas next!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    Give it 10 years and type 2 Diabetes will be all the crowd control they'll ever need.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Khyra24


    Give it 10 years and type 2 Diabetes will be all the crowd control they'll ever need.

    Hey now...that's not the only thing we'll die from...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    Khyra24 wrote: »
    Hey now...that's not the only thing we'll die from...

    Sorry, I forgot 'The Rapture'. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Khyra24


    Sorry, I forgot 'The Rapture'. :D

    Theeeeere we go. :D

    You know, a rubber nuclear bomb would be mighty interesting...*boingy boingy*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    And here's me thinkin the US Army was a benevolent force for good in world.

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    Are the yanks worried that popular uprisings could spread to the US and where else could these turn up

    Or they are getting a bit of stick for shooting civilians in the many wars they are in now, or might be in soon


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just imagine the ricochet from a volly of shots from a machine gun!



    Bet the yanks play this when using it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Where are the rubber granades or the rubber A Bomb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    Fook your rubber bullets......I've a grenade outside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Khyra24


    Ricardo G wrote: »
    Fook your rubber bullets......I've a grenade outside

    We Americans don't want to kill anyone...we just want to really really hurt them so they'll want to kill themselves. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They must be anticipating something if they assume that current methods are not sufficient.

    They used this beauty at a G20 protest -



    Rubber bullets seem like a step backward otherwise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    lethal at anything less than 300 feet.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They must be anticipating something if they assume that current methods are not sufficient.

    They used this beauty at a G20 protest -


    Rubber bullets seem like a step backward otherwise

    A single shot from a pistol would likely take that out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    They have something better already - their 'Pain Ray' or ray gun system. Or as they call it nicely - an 'Active Denial' system. It basically roasts/cooks the outer layer of your skin, all very healthy and nice of course.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/u-s-testing-pain-ray-in-afghanistan/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Where are the rubber granades or the QUOTE]

    Are they not tennis balls?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Are they not tennis balls?

    No dear, although they may look that way from the kitchen window......:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    If anyone wants to bet me any amount of money that Manic Moran won't comment on this thread, i'll take them up on it.

    NTM

    *Apart from Manic Moran, obviously. And anyone who might be in cahoots with him on the bet with. And if he doesn't comment, i'll just presume he is in cahoots with anyone who takes me up on it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    No dear, although they may look that way from the kitchen window......:D
    Oh dear, did you try to make a funny?

    Aww!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    "The annihilator 2000" would have taken care of everything :D


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just imagine the ricochet from a volly of shots from a machine gun!



    Bet the yanks play this when using it!

    That's the problem with rubber bullets, they keep bouncing back! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    They must be anticipating something if they assume that current methods are not sufficient.

    They used this beauty at a G20 protest -




    Ear defenders? otherwise how are the surrounding police not affected? they dont appear to be in the line of sight, but there wasnt many people at that, wonder how much that costs, I could see people trying to take it out with something simple and cheap, like a lump of wood or a brick.
    The big guy (on the left at 24-29 secs) on the phone doesnt look too bothered, maybe the phone has knackered his ears?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    This is why American people are laughed at for being stupid - everybody knows that real bullets will be far more effective for crowd control. Idiots. FFS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    They have something better already - their 'Pain Ray' or ray gun system. Or as they call it nicely - an 'Active Denial' system. It basically roasts/cooks the outer layer of your skin, all very healthy and nice of course.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/u-s-testing-pain-ray-in-afghanistan/

    Never work here. The young ones will be up front for a free tan....


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