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Zeroing in a scope

  • 18-02-2011 9:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21


    I am got a scope for a tokyo marui vsr-10 gspec recently and have been having trouble zeroing it in. What has happened is it does not seem like the crosshairs will go any lower but i need it to go lower because my shot is still to low for the scope . if anyone has any help please id love to hear it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Villafan6


    what scope mounts are you using


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭clubberlang12


    What distance are you zeroing it in at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    It's not too hard really. Get a flat surface, or a steady firing position. Aim at the target, and fire using the crosshair. Aim always for dead centre of the target. (paper ones are good as they leave holes where you hit)
    check the target, see where you hit... use the dials on the scope to ajust the crosshairs up and down, and left and right, usually it says on the dial under the covers that protect them which direction is which. Fire 5, adjust, fire five, adjust till your bbs strike the x in your sight. It takes some time but is pretty simple.

    This can be done for any range you like really, just find a set distance, and zero it to that. Method never varies. Though I'd set your hopup first, and if you change that, you'll need to rezero. Simples :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Stephen-mx3


    I know exactly what you are talking about. Unfortunately a lot of scopes out there have this problem. Either they are cheaply made or the BBs take a strange flight path, but to be honest, I think it is the former.

    The only thing I can recommend is that you maybe raise the scope up with maybe black electrical tape on the rear scope ring so it will drop the crosshairs.

    I had the exact same issue with my scope, VERY annoying!!! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    So dont buy such a cheap scope... if you want a scope to work, atleast spend a tiny bit of cash. You dont have to spend much to get one that works relatively well for Airsoft... 30 notes or so will get you a decent enough scope. As for the strange flight path, thats what setting your hop is for. Naturally the wind does effect it at the extreme of flight, but you should expect that and account for it. it is an airsoft gun afterall...

    To fix his problem, he needs to use a thin material to shim the bottom of the rear scope mount upward, usually inside the scope ring under where the scope will sit. Though'd check first that the scope is mounted correctly, and the hopup is set. If your bb strike is lower than the crosshairs lowest setting on a gspec (fairly well leveled mountbase) I'd see how your hop profile is set. Sometimes that can solve the issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Stephen-mx3


    I had a Tasco scope and this happened, not that cheap. A cheap scope is anything under €200 really. But again, you could buy a €20 scope and get lucky!! They're all mass produced and mostly for show, let's be honest here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    'mostly for show, lets be honest here'


    Yeah, I stopped listening after you said that... Its fairly clear you dont have a clue what you're talking about in this subject matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭clubberlang12


    'mostly for show, lets be honest here'


    Yeah, I stopped listening after you said that...

    But that was the last thing he said :P...............sorry i couldn't resist it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Stephen-mx3


    When you can start hitting head shape targets at 300 meters with a 5.56mm round at 1.5x magnification in torrential rain and a horrible crosswind, then you can tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about kid ;)

    And if you need a magnified scope greater then 1x for an airsoft gun that doesn't shoot accurately over MAX 80 meters, then it is you that does not know what you are talking about.

    Scopes on airsoft guns are for show, fact! Yeah we all look down them but they aren't really needed!

    Now, sorry to the OP for the deviation. Try out the electrical tape idea and let us know how you get on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    When you can start hitting head shape targets at 300 meters with a 5.56mm round at 1.5x magnification in torrential rain and a horrible crosswind, then you can tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about kid ;)

    And if you need a magnified scope greater then 1x for an airsoft gun that doesn't shoot accurately over MAX 80 meters, then it is you that does not know what you are talking about.

    Scopes on airsoft guns are for show, fact! Yeah we all look down them but they aren't really needed!

    Now, sorry to the OP for the deviation. Try out the electrical tape idea and let us know how you get on
    Oh, We're going down this route, eh? Well, I've no real desire to enter a pissing contest with you. So I'm not going to tell you what I've shot with 5.56, not that it really matters, because airsoft is absolutely nothing comparable, and your prowess over pretty much standard range with an AUG doesn't impress me. (And nobody uses exlusively head shaped targets anyway honey.

    Wild posturing and genital waving aside, You do have a point though, no, you don't NEED a scope with a range limited to 100m, but you know what? it does prove useful for spotting, and more accurate aiming. Max 80m? Not always...

    The very fact you are talking such unbridled twoddle, speaks volumes for your intimated military carear, and general quality of this advice... "Fact!" I Didn't insult you, I disagreed. I have a lot of experience airsofting, and I have never encountered a tasco scope that needed electrical tape to zero, and couldnt be done with its adjustment. If you have a scope that you cant adjust. I recomenmd you stop buying €5 market crap designed for springers.

    Oh, and Please dont call me Kid, I am not a goat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    When you can start hitting head shape targets at 300 meters with a 5.56mm round at 1.5x magnification in torrential rain and a horrible crosswind, then you can tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about kid ;)

    FYI, she was a member of her Battalion's shooting team (British army, not PDF)


    Anyway, the pertinent bit about using scopes for stuff other than simply trying to hit a target has been mentioned already.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭War Machine 539


    Lemming Im sure Firekitten can let us know of her own accomplishments. As a former MOD you should now threads should be kept on topic.
    As for the Scopes with Airsoft, they can make a difference, but sometimes they arent worth a dime. Varies on the day, site etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Lemming Im sure Firekitten can let us know of her own accomplishments. As a former MOD you should now threads should be kept on topic.

    Indeed, I could also point you to the bit about back-seat moderating


    *cough*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Stephen-mx3


    Ok Firekitten, I am not trying to start a keyboard war, really not my style.

    But to say something like "intimated military carear" would be considered some what offensive to someone actually serving in the PDF (I for one never had) and also rather immature.

    Also, you didn't just disagree, your exact words were:

    "Yeah, I stopped listening after you said that... Its fairly clear you dont have a clue what you're talking about in this subject matter."

    Which could be construed as rather rude. This is the reason I, and a lot of others I know, try not to post on this forum, a ridiculous amount of pointless bickering (of which I have become a part of :( )

    And yes, I bought a Tasco scope, which was cheap and also WAY off. The dial in rings stopped short.

    But look, let's start afresh. I wish to apologise if I came across as rude or overbearing. It's just from personal experience, I have not come across an airsoft gun accurate enough to warrant a scope, but if you have, then I have learned something new

    **reaches out for handshake**


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Mr.Kemp


    Ok so heres the story. I have a strike 3-9x40 which I bought from airsofteire for around 70 euro along with high scope rings. I have my vsr-10 set up steadily for shooting the target. First 4or 5 they were in the bottom corner. I then got them shooting in the middle but still a good bit low so I tried to keep on lowering the crosshairs. I continued taking shots and lowering the crosshairs until when I tried to turn the dial to once again lower the crosshairs I felt a resistance. That is where I stopped and posted this thread. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    I'd just take your hopup up a tad...

    Out of curiosity, what range are you shooting these targets at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    Ok Firekitten, I am not trying to start a keyboard war, really not my style.

    But to say something like "intimated military carear" would be considered some what offensive to someone actually serving in the PDF (I for one never had) and also rather immature.

    Also, you didn't just disagree, your exact words were:

    "Yeah, I stopped listening after you said that... Its fairly clear you dont have a clue what you're talking about in this subject matter."

    Which could be construed as rather rude. This is the reason I, and a lot of others I know, try not to post on this forum, a ridiculous amount of pointless bickering (of which I have become a part of :( )

    And yes, I bought a Tasco scope, which was cheap and also WAY off. The dial in rings stopped short.

    But look, let's start afresh. I wish to apologise if I came across as rude or overbearing. It's just from personal experience, I have not come across an airsoft gun accurate enough to warrant a scope, but if you have, then I have learned something new

    **reaches out for handshake**


    I said intimated, because, as the english language goes, your statement did not outright say you were military, only that you apparently shot what I deemed to be an AUG, at a target, in the rain. It Suggested you were forces, or... more appropriately, intimated as such. It wasnt meant to be offensive or suggestive that it was 'fake'.

    I think we came at this topic from oposite angles without really explaining ourselves, the recipie for disaster huh?
    *shakes hand*

    Lets get back on topic, agreed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Mr.Kemp


    Firekitten wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what range are you shooting these targets at?

    Around 20-25 feet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    Yeah, you know what the problem is? Not the scope, but literally the hight of the sight over the bore (your barrel) at 20ft, its always going to be too low. try a longer range, zeroing a sniper rifle at about 10m is useless :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Mr.Kemp


    The problem is that I don't have another place with more space to zero it in. I only have my backgarden. Any ideas?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭evilrobotshane


    You can get left-right correct anyway. Next time you're out for a game you can take a few minutes to dial in the elevation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭MonkeyGuy


    Well if you have your left/right axis well zeroed you can just zero your height when you get to a site. It's not ideal as you won't have much practice with it, but it'll work.


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