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Woodquay symbols above doors

  • 18-02-2011 5:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5


    Hi Folks,
    I moved down to Galway City from Dublin about 6 months ago. To get a feel for the place, I am regurlarly out and about on my bicycle at weekends observing this fine city and it's peoples...

    On my cycles I've noticed that there are groups of houses in Woodquay (is it one word or two?) with small blue crests above the door, like a symbol of some kind.
    I've asked plenty of Galwegians and finished the internet searching for the what they represent, but to no avail (note: my search terms are notoriously poor - Amazon thinks I am a pirate :D).
    So could anyone put my out of my misery?
    Many thanks
    S.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭ttoppcat


    I've often wondered what those are as well. They're blue tiles aren't they? Think I've seen them in other areas of town too.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    I was under the impression that it was something to do with the popes visit in 1979.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Knock on one of the doors, OP, and ask your question. You might even get invited in for some tea and marietta biscuits


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 shanksensation


    hmmm.... think there are enough people knocking on doors asking silly questions at the moment - although would love a nice marietta with a bit of butter!
    I'll see how this thread turns out first :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭xo.mary


    If I'm thinking of the right thing, the little blue tile, they're not just in Galway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Simarillion


    These show that the house has been blessed by a priest.

    It's not done anymore, they just bless your house without sticking anything on the front, and some people take them down when they move in to houses that have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭clouds


    They're marian plaques.
    They are something to do with the Marian year, ie a Holy Year dedicated to Mary which I think was 1954. Maybe they got specially blessed by the priest that year or maybe had a special mass said in them for Mary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭eagle10


    afaik they are blue plaques that at a glance look like little garda symbols.

    They read IHS it means "I have sin(ned)" JUst an old religous thing to the best of my knowledge you see them on older houses around henry street too


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dont think IHS stands for I have sinned, its a Latin or Greek acronym.
    I always thought these plaques were put up to commemmorate the 1932 Eucharistic Congress, but the Marian Year idea seems like something I vaguely remember reading about in one those Old Galway columns in the Advertiser. Sorry for being so vague, will check this out in the library tomorrow unless someone else knows for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    clouds wrote: »
    They're marian plaques.
    They are something to do with the Marian year, ie a Holy Year dedicated to Mary which I think was 1954. Maybe they got specially blessed by the priest that year or maybe had a special mass said in them for Mary
    I think it might have actually been for the Eucharistic Congress held in Ireland in 1932 because the IHS on the plaques is actually an abbreviation for Jesus Christ.

    EDIT: Blaris beat me to it but it seems we're on the same track.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    It is an archetypal scribal suspension, over a millenium old, of the word Jesus in Greek. The first three letters transliterate in LATIN to IHS , this is the Root of the suspension.

    Nothing English or Marian about it at all , gwanouttadat willye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's a Christogram I think
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christogram


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭clouds


    I think it might have actually been for the Eucharistic Congress held in Ireland in 1932 because the IHS on the plaques is actually an abbreviation for Jesus Christ.

    EDIT: Blaris beat me to it but it seems we're on the same track.

    So I'm wrong then?!?! Outrage.

    *goes off in huff*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Correct me if I am wrong but IHS is "I Have Suffered", it shows the house has been blessed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Galwayps


    The IHS tiles around Galway City are the subject of several articles in books and papers. The best article is in Discover Galway by Paul Walsh.
    They were put up in towns by the Fransciscan order and are tied up with the idea of the power of the Holy name!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Steyr wrote: »
    Correct me if I am wrong but IHS is "I Have Suffered", it shows the house has been blessed.

    Even some old folks will say this too! It is an urban myth about the meaning, but quite a widespread one, I've heard it too. It's most likely that it is the In Hoc Signo/Jesus abbreviation tile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭clouds


    In years gone by didn't they have IHS on their burial shrouds? It's definitely a Latin phrase, but I Have Suffered is a common belief


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    clouds wrote: »
    In years gone by didn't they have IHS on their burial shrouds? It's definitely a Latin phrase, but I Have Suffered is a common belief

    It is, you'll hear 'I have sinned' from older people too. It's basically an abbreviated Jesus symbol, whether from the Greek or Latin, but if the folks who have it over their door want it to mean I have Suffered then sure of course they can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭clouds


    inisboffin wrote: »
    It is, you'll hear 'I have sinned' from older people too. It's basically an abbreviated Jesus symbol, whether from the Greek or Latin, but if the folks who have it over their door want it to mean I have Suffered then sure of course they can.


    Sure they probably have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    clouds wrote: »
    Sure they probably have

    True!

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭celty


    I thought these houses were owned by Galway United fans and 'IHS' means 'I hate Sligo' ... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,563 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Was actually looking at one of these plaques today in Woodquay as I passed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Irish_Elect_Eng


    Steyr wrote: »
    Correct me if I am wrong but IHS is "I Have Suffered", it shows the house has been blessed.

    Incorrect. Remember the Romans didn't speak English :-)

    See Earlier post.

    The plaques/tiles are indeed to commemorate Eucharistic Congress held in Ireland in 1932. I think that this tile was used in many housed built that year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭padraig71


    IHS is short for the name of Jesus in Greek, comprising the letters iota, eta and sigma - the equivalent in Latin would be JES.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    This symbol was made famous in history by the emperor Constantine who converted to Christianity after winning the battle of the Milvian Bridge.

    See "In Hoc Signo Vinces" article in Wikipedia for more details


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭antonf


    These tiles can also be seen in other areas of the city, particularly "down the West" - Henry Street, etc. They are called Temperance Tiles. Hubby actually has written about them for his Certificate in Local History. Will ask him to post some info. later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 shanksensation


    Thanks for all the useful information folks.
    AntonF - any additional info would be great.

    Thanks
    S.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Don't know what to search for so can't provide a pic, but I guess if you don't know what I mean you can't answer me anyway!

    Loads of doorways in the city, both commercial and residential have this little square tile above them, blue with a pattern. Anyone know what they are and what they mean?

    Plague carriers? Illuminati?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's explained in another thread from last year, I'll merge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    As a kid I used to think it meant there was a Garda living in the house... sure were a lot of Gards in woodquay! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Davyhal


    Treadhead wrote: »
    As a kid I used to think it meant there was a Garda living in the house... sure were a lot of Gards in woodquay! ;)

    I believed that it was a Guard lived there as well! I didn't think Guards still lived there, but I thought that a guard must have lived there at some point and the tile was still there....

    I use the past tense "believed" as I learned reading this thread over the last 3 minutes that this is incorrect...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Meemars


    I heard it had something to do with the Eucharistic Congress in 1932. Perhaps that's when the houses were built.
    My mother was born in 1932, and says that when she and her classmates made their Communion a few years later, they were given medals with the same crest, because their birth year coincided with the Eucharistic Congress. So she figured that any houses with the same plaque must have been built in 1932. (She was not brought up in Galway though, so wouldn't remember the area at the time)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭dan hibiki


    im fairly sure that these symbols are an indication that heroin may be purchased from the home owner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭brandnewaward


    eagle10 wrote: »
    afaik they are blue plaques that at a glance look like little garda symbols.

    They read IHS it means "I have sin(ned)" JUst an old religous thing to the best of my knowledge you see them on older houses around henry street too


    IHS is short hand latin for jesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Gambas


    I have sinned?

    I have suffered?

    I Haz Sheezburger!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    dan hibiki wrote: »
    im fairly sure that these symbols are an indication that heroin may be purchased from the home owner.
    Would explain why I'm going out of business. Where can I get one fitted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Would explain why I'm going out of business. Where can I get one fitted?

    These days i think you have to apply directly to the Pope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Treadhead wrote: »
    As a kid I used to think it meant there was a Garda living in the house... sure were a lot of Gards in woodquay! ;)

    Forgot I used to as well!

    For those who couldn't be arsed to read the thread, and are having the Latin/Greek/I Have Sweeties debate, here's a linky :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    IHS
    way back in my schooldays i was told it meant "in his name", ie in God's name


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭2rkehij30qtza5


    bagels wrote: »
    IHS
    way back in my schooldays i was told it meant "in his name", ie in God's name


    IHS means, in Latin 'Iuses Hominum Salvator' meaning Jesus Savior of Men.
    The small blue plaques were put above doors in 1954 to mark the Marian Year. I just asked my mother, she is 100% sure of this.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    From Galway Independent

    index.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Rebloom


    Amazing that this thread went for 3 pages before someone rightly said that IHS meant Iesus Hominum Salvator "Jesus Savious or men" Latin of course and on His Cross when he dies was written INRI Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum Jesus the Nazareen King of the Jews.
    The Symbols were put up in the Marian Year and other similar symbols are on houses in other parts of Ireland I believe I have seen them in Limerick. Marian year of 1954 was decreed by Pope Pius


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    ^
    How the fk did you manage to find this thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    ^
    How the fk did you manage to find this thread?

    Blessed with out-of-this-world Google fu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 MixedMessages


    Not just in Galway

    Ennis has quite a few; Limerick, Cork & Athlone has some.

    Also Ballinrobe, Annascaul, Dublin and Ennistymon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 MixedMessages


    It appears that they were originally made for retreat by Franciscan friar, Fr Francis Donnelly, in 1914.

    In 1932, around the Eucharistic Congress more were fitted - the one in Dublin has 1929 date. When I met a houseowner outside Ennis, I was told the tile was put on house when built in 1932.

    A new range was made in 2014

    http://readingthesigns.weebly.com/dublin-yhs-tiles.html


    5288897_orig.jpg


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