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issue with double voting cards!!

  • 18-02-2011 2:08pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭


    hi all, just wanted to see did anyone else get voting cards sent to their rented accom and home address? my partner's always had her home address down for such things and always went home to vote until I went to register in our current address and was told she's misteriously registered in our new address already. I thought nothing much of it til she went checking the register online and sure enough she'd been moved from her permanent home address! she rang the council about it and they said someone called and took our details at the door but that most certainly didn't happen! we suspect more like they got our details on the PRTB (private residential tenancies board) which we signed up to in our new pad over a year ago.

    anyhow, getting back to the point of the thread, this morn her mum txt to say her voting card arrived and low and behold it arrived here too, both for different polling stations! I would love to know how common this is and do we have a situation where enough double votes are being sent out to mess with the outcome??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    gerrymandering.

    yay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    My da gets 2, for his name in Irish and English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭pawrick


    actually quite common that you receive more then one card if you change addresses.

    You are meant to ask them to remove you from the register for the old address, sometimes they forget...
    Also common is that the person locally knows you don't live at your home address and removes you from the list without telling you.

    the whole register needs to be revampted - link it to your PPS number or something so only vote can be given. Y


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    Vote early, vote often.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Poshknacker


    I wouldn't bother using them though, if voting really changed anything we wouldn't be allowed to do it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    they are trusting people to do the honorable thing and remove their name from the register when they are not entitled to vote and/or change address...;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Ghost Estate


    I wouldn't bother using them though, if voting really changed anything we wouldn't be allowed to do it.

    i smell a closet Fianna Failer somewhere..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    I have three cards. One with my name, another with my name + my middle initial :confused:, and another in my Irish name. It's been like that for years and never bothered sorting it out.

    Surely their database should check these things against your PPS number.

    I'd vote three times but I'm sure that's a bit illegal.

    ps. these are all sent to the same address.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Happened to be talking to two guys in the pub yesterday. Both of them get two cards! I'd say it could be a widespread problem!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Pauleta wrote: »
    My da gets 2, for his name in Irish and English.

    Brilliant.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    I have three cards. One with my name, another with my name + my middle initial :confused:, and another in my Irish name. It's been like that for years and never bothered sorting it out.

    Surely their database should check these things against your PPS number.

    I'd vote three times but I'm sure that's a bit illegal.

    ps. these are all sent to the same address.

    this is just blatantly stupid really, all going to the same address but the system doesn't pick up the triple mailing!! wtf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    Degag wrote: »
    Happened to be talking to two guys in the pub yesterday. Both of them get two cards! I'd say it could be a widespread problem!

    I'd say it is, but surely it's an offense to knowingly vote more than once?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Ghost Estate


    I got a polling card for someone who doesn't even exit, and if they did exist they most definitely never lived here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    I'd say it is, but surely it's an offense to knowingly vote more than once?
    I'm sure it is, these guys don't though (or so they say) but i'm sure there are plenty who do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    whoopdedoo wrote: »
    this is just blatantly stupid really, all going to the same address but the system doesn't pick up the triple mailing!! wtf

    Not uncommon to have the same names in one household. My father has the same name, but his card has a different middle initial.

    They definitely need to reconcile their database.

    I signed on the dole in 2004 and for some odd reason they sent me a new PPS number/card, so I had two. Bit of a mix-up, and probably my fault. I quickly sorted it out. Still, would have been nice having two passports and two dole payments. :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    I'd say it is, but surely it's an offense to knowingly vote more than once?

    You can ask Pat O'ConnorPat O'Connor about that.
    Solicitor Pat O'Connor, a close friend and for many years the election agent of Charles Haughey and was on his legal team during the Arms Trial of 1970.
    In 1982, O'Connor was charged but acquitted of attempting to vote twice in the general election in February of that year on the basis that because of the secrecy of the ballot, they could not prove that he actually voted even if they could show that he had taken a ballot paper.
    Despite his acquittal -- upheld by the president of the High Court on appeal by the DPP -- O'Connor became known in some circles as "Pat O'Connor-Pat O'Connor".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    J K wrote: »
    You can ask Pat O'ConnorPat O'Connor about that.

    Do I have to ask him twice?


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