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CIE Bye Laws

  • 18-02-2011 12:57pm
    #1
    DWCommuter
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    Perhaps some qualified people here can shed some light on the following issue that has divided opinion in the Commuting & Transport forum.

    Irish Rail currently have a "Conditions of Carriage" document.

    Under these conditions you must not board a train without a ticket unless the booking office and ticket vending machines are unavailable. In this scenario you pay the fare at your destination.

    Tickets are issued subject to
    1.1.1 these conditions;
    1.1.2 the applicable bye-laws of Iarnród Éireann; and
    1.1.3 the regulations and conditions contained in the publications and
    notices of and applicable to Iarnród Éireann.

    However in the Bye Laws it states the following;
    4. Where the Board gives notice that a station is unattended or the booking office is closed, or where any person is instructed by an authorised person to board a train at a station without purchasing a ticket at the booking office so as not to delay the departure of the train from the station, any person not in possession of a valid ticket entitling him or her to travel may enter a vehicle at that station for the purpose of travelling but that person must obtain a ticket or other authority from an authorised person on the train as soon as practicable after entering any vehicle or from an authorised person on arrival at the station to which such person is travelling by the train

    There is no mention of ticket vending machines and until quite recently the practice was to pay at your destination if a station booking office was closed. However Irish Rail introduced a new condition whereby you must have a ticket before boarding and can only board without a ticket if both the booking office and vending machines are unavailable. But the bye law makes no mention of this.

    So could the bye law be used as a defense if you board a train without a ticket because the booking office was closed even though ticket vending machines were available to purchase a ticket?

    It appears on the face of it that the conditions and regulations contained in notices and publications contradict the bye laws in relation to this particular issue.

    Any help appreciated.


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  • #2
    234
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    Well in the situation you describe the "Board" (whatever that is defined as in the bye-laws" would have to issue notice that the booking office is closed or you would have to get permission from some "authorised person". Neither seems unlikely to occur if the ticket machines are working.
    To clarify; the "or" between "station is unattended" and "booking office is closed" refers to the two situations in which the Board can issue notice. The ",or" after this refers to a situation where it is not necessary to have notice from the Board, only permission from an authorised person.
    Anyway, even if you were able to hop on the train under in the situation envisaged by the bye-laws you have to seek out a person to get you a ticket straight away, so is it not easier to just use the ticket machine.


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