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Alleged thief falsely imprisoned is paid compensation

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  • #2
    MalteseBarry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭MalteseBarry


    And yet you don't discuss yourself!


  • #3
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Well, I'm always interested in hearing the views of others before I decide who I'm going to disagree with.

    In any event, I thought it was interesting, and there have been a number of threads relatively recently and in general regarding citizen's arrests and the consequences of getting it wrong/not knowing what the parameters are/what can I legitimately do to the scrote who just ripped me off.


  • #4
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    Well, I'm always interested in hearing the views of others before I decide who I'm going to disagree with.

    Isn't that the motto of the troll?

    I think the manager acted very stupidly in this case. I remember back when I worked in a shop the owner caught someone stealing. He insisted the Gardaí handcuff the pregnant woman and march her through the shop. They politely refused his request and brought her out the back way.


  • #5
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    k_mac wrote: »
    Isn't that the motto of the troll?

    Eh ? Are you saying I am a troll/I have posted trollishly/this thread is trollish ?
    k_mac wrote: »
    I think the manager acted very stupidly in this case.

    Yup.


  • #6
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    An employer has been ordered to pay £34,000 to an employee who he had accused of stealing money from his company. That's because he had been frogmarched to a police station with a sign around his neck saying that he was a thief.

    Mark Gilbert had stolen £845 from Simon Cremer who ran a flooring company in Essex. He had written a company cheque to himself, which he admitted to the police. After being given a caution, he sued his former boss for loss of earnings and trauma.

    The charge against Mr Cremer for false imprisonment was dropped and yesterday he settled out of court. He still needs to pay £5,000 in compensation and £29,000 in legal fees.

    Mr Cremer told BBC Radio 5 live's Victoria Derbyshire what happened when he decided to take Mr Gilbert to the station. This was after questioning him in his office with Mr Gilbert's hands tied behind his back.

    You cant go tying people up like that


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  • #7
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    You cant go tying people up like that

    without consent


  • #8
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    £5,000 in compensation and £29,000 in legal fees.

    The lawyers must love these cases, they were the real winners in this case


  • #9
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    k_mac wrote: »
    without consent
    Obviously, but thats not an issue here.

    Whats the relevant law for the Brits? Much the same as ours?


  • #10
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    feelingstressed wrote: »
    The lawyers must love these cases, they were the real winners in this case

    Like plumbers love leaks.

    That said...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-12473446

    There's a touch of inconsistency in what he's saying about what this cost him. This refers to £13,000 paid in compensation, the other refers to £5,000.

    In any event the £29,000 seems ridiculous - I'd be interested to see independent confirmation of that amount.


  • #11
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    The law is ridiculous. The outcome should have been:

    1) Thief pays owner the money he stole, and pays all legal fees (ie, thief pays total costs).

    2) Thief gets jail for stealing, whatever the mandatory is (say a year), plus whatever length of time it would have taken to earn the amount of total costs if working on min wage.

    3) Thief gets zero for trauma as he brought it on himself.

    4) Owner gets compensated for trauma to the value of whatever the number of therapy sessions are necessary to recover from this ordeal. Say 3 sessions at £100 each, thats £300. Thief to pay, or state pays and thief does an additional amount of jail time equal to how long it takes to earn £300 on min wage.

    5) Owner gets a warning for tying up and humiliating thief, but under the circumstances, is let off. He does, however, gain a week of early release for thief due to not calling the police first.


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