Thief steals £845, gets caught and humiliated and compensated £5000.

IvySlayer

Basically a thief gets caught. His boss drags him down to the police station wearing a sign saying 'thief'. Now the businessman has to sell his house to compensate the scumbag.

BBC wrote:

An employer has been ordered to pay £34,000 to an employee who he had accused of stealing money from his company. That's because he had been frogmarched to a police station with a sign around his neck saying that he was a thief.


Mark Gilbert had stolen £845 from Simon Cremer who ran a flooring company in Essex. He had written a company cheque to himself, which he admitted to the police. After being given a caution, he sued his former boss for loss of earnings and trauma.


The charge against Mr Cremer for false imprisonment was dropped and yesterday he settled out of court. He still needs to pay £5,000 in compensation and £29,000 in legal fees.


Mr Cremer told BBC Radio 5 live's Victoria Derbyshire what happened when he decided to take Mr Gilbert to the station. This was after questioning him in his office with Mr Gilbert's hands tied behind his back

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12481540

Personally I think the boss is a hero.

Super-Rush

What about his human rights? Rabble.

grrrrrrrrrr

Citizens arrest?

mikemac

He still needs to pay £5,000 in compensation and £29,000 in legal fees.

The thief got caught, the boss has to pay compensation but one group are happy and that's the bloodsucking lawyers!

mconigol

IvySlayer wrote: »

Personally I think the boss is a hero.

or an idiot.

Kintarō Hattori

While it's kind of funny the boss was totally out of line. If the courts have ruled against him fair enough- but he shouldn't lose his house over it.

Duggy747

Note to self:

Break into a shop, steal something, get caught by owner, get him so angry that he punches me / drags me around the place, sue him and come away with thousands in profit

bleg

1. Steal money, get caught.
2. ???
3. Profit

jackiebaron

Boss sounds like a bit of a nut tbh.
Tying him up in the office, etc.

That's what happens if you decide to take the law into your own hands.

Luap

...and then rode his wife.

Sticky_Fingers

jackiebaron wrote: »

Boss sounds like a bit of a nut tbh.
Tying him up in the office, etc.

That's what happens if you decide to take the law into your own hands.

Yeah because the law was shown to really punish the guilty by letting the stealing scumbag off with a caution.

The_Minister

Even if someone is a thief, you call the police - you don't take matters into your own hands.

Boss was an idiot.

ScumLord

The law is an ass. Pretty much everyone involved in that storey was an ass.

AnonoBoy

ScumLord wrote: »

The law is an ass. Pretty much everyone involved in that storey was an ass.

Yeah but up on the second storey they were all pointing out the window at yer man and laughing.

Eric Cartman

in all reality £845 is probably a lot to the thief, may just be a drop in the ocean to the boss.....

what a savage boss

Tonyandthewhale

Or maybe the company is struggling and 845£ is an awful lot to the boss. I mean he's selling his house to raise the 34,000, he obviously isn't a millionaire.

Yakult

What a ****ed up world we live in.
A theive gets caught red handed, boss drags him to the police station and then gets sued..
We need more people to step up and kick the **** outta these scumbags, not get sued. No wonder people are scared of stepping up for themselves when they would probably get sued. Once again, this world = bunch of tards.

sligopark

feelingstressed wrote: »

The thief got caught, the boss has to pay compensation but one group are happy and that's the bloodsucking lawyers!

you forgot the other group - do gooder liberals

thee glitz

Yakult wrote: »

What a ****ed up world we live in.
A theive gets caught red handed, boss drags him to the police station and then gets sued..
We need more people to step up and kick the **** outta these scumbags, not get sued. No wonder people are scared of stepping up for themselves when they would probably get sued. Once again, this world = bunch of tards.

I think you missed the point... it was something to do with tying him up and a 'theif' sign.

what kind of gobsh!te was the boss

Overheal

Yakult wrote: »

What a ****ed up world we live in.
A theive gets caught red handed, boss drags him to the police station and then gets sued..
We need more people to step up and kick the **** outta these scumbags, not get sued. No wonder people are scared of stepping up for themselves when they would probably get sued. Once again, this world = bunch of tards.

More AH Rabble. People shouldn't be allowed to enact their own brand of punishment on criminals. They should be allowed to defend themselves but not beat the **** out of someone for a white-collar crime.

You know what happens if you beat the **** out of someone who T-bones your car because he illegally drove through a stop sign? You get charged with Road Rage and end up in prison.

To borrow a phrase from a book I'm reading: The forms must be obeyed. And to borrow a more common cliche: Two wrongs don't make a Right.

alandublin15

can boss declare bankruptcy and then go on as usual the next day financially un-touched and pointing and laughing at the little people from his primary tax residence in club tropicana ?

(this happened in ireland right?)

Overheal

alandublin15 wrote: »

can boss declare bankruptcy and then go on as usual the next day financially un-touched and pointing and laughing at the little people from his primary tax residence in club tropicana ?

(this happened in ireland right?)

That depends on whether bankruptcy can absolve debt from legal sentencing. I know in the US for example that Bankruptcy will explicitly not absolve you from having to repay Student Loans. Either way he still has assets (like his home) that I believe have to be liquidated before he is declared insolvent. But I'm no lawyer.

Latchy

All the Boss had to do was call the cops and confront the guy with the evidence when they arrived but no, he wanted the big drama .Now while it would be wrong and sad for him to loose his home and as much as he got satisfaction from it , he was a tool for wrongful arrest and humiliating the guy in public .

ManofStraw

Latchy wrote: »

All the Boss had to do was call the cops and confront the guy with the evidence when they arrived but no, he wanted the big drama .Now while it would be wrong and sad for him to loose his home and as much as he got satisfaction from it , he was a tool for wrongful arrest and humiliating the guy in public .

The guy stole alot of money from him he deserved it, maybe if more people eho stole were named and shamed it wouldn't be as big as issue.

Liam Byrne

thee glitz wrote: »

I think you missed the point... it was something to do with tying him up and a 'theif' sign.

So you can now get sued for telling the truth ?

Liam Byrne

Eric Cartman wrote: »

in all reality £845 is probably a lot to the thief, may just be a drop in the ocean to the boss.....

Completely irrelevant. The £845 wasn't his.

Latchy

ManofStraw wrote: »

The guy stole alot of money from him he deserved it, maybe if more people eho stole were named and shamed it wouldn't be as big as issue.

Ok ,why dont we start with the bankers who have stole a lot of money and then work our way right down to the paper clip employees .Then we can get the stocks out and throw rotten tomatoes at all .

He stole a lot of money yes , but it wasn't his boss or anybody elses right to say what he did and didn't deserve , otherwise we go down the road of ' judgement ' gallows mob style ' ,

ArtSmart

the only time such an action would be acceptable is if the thief was a banker and he stole 50 billion from his fellow citizens.

of course, that's fantasy stuff.

amacachi

Overheal wrote: »

More AH Rabble. People shouldn't be allowed to enact their own brand of punishment on criminals. They should be allowed to defend themselves but not beat the **** out of someone for a white-collar crime.

Where does it say he beat the **** out of him?

Ali Babba

Personally if I was the boss i'd refuse to pay the costs and the £5000, sign my house over to my wife or family and go to prison, i'd be out in a month or two, there's a lot of making in £34,000.

Why does everyone always think bosses are loaded? More often than not they don't get wages on many occasions while making sure their employees get their wages.

MidgetWrestler

ridiculous, all this time i've been brought up to think that crime doesn't pay.. guess it does sometimes

Ev84

IvySlayer wrote: »

£29,000 in legal fees

Holy s**t! Who the f**k did he hire to represent him? The whole cast of Law and Order?

James G

MidgetWrestler wrote: »

ridiculous, all this time i've been brought up to think that crime doesn't pay.. guess it does sometimes

Wrong. He wasn't compensated for stealing the money, but rather the way he was treated by his boss.

Latchy

James G wrote: »

Wrong. He wasn't compensated for stealing the money, but rather the way he was treated by his boss.

Which is the whole issue here .

Crasp

bleg wrote: »

1. Steal money, get caught.
2. ???
3. Profit

problem sane legal systems? :pac:

Kintarō Hattori

Ev84 wrote: »

Holy s**t! Who the f**k did he hire to represent him? The whole cast of Law and Order?

He has to pay his legal fees and the thieves because he lost.

Sticky_Fingers

If I were the boss I would make it my mission to fook this guys life up as much as possible. He gets a new job, tell his new employers what a thieving scumbag he is, tell his neighbours about what he has done, ditto the boys down the local pub. I'd make sure everyone who would have contact with him was aware of his actions and try and make him a social pariah.

There's no need to spread rumours or confront the thieving little sh!t, just tell the truth about how he screwed you over. He may scream harassment but I don't think there is any law against telling other people the truth.

AskMyChocolate

Anyone else intrigued as to why he decided to steal £845 exactly? I mean, he wrote a company cheque to himself. What does everyone think he needed exactly £845 for?

I'll start the ball rolling. I reckon he was going to buy 84,500 Blackjacks.

TT09

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Anyone else intrigued as to why he decided to steal £845 exactly? I mean, he wrote a company cheque to himself. What does everyone think he needed exactly £845 for?

I'll start the ball rolling. I reckon he was going to buy 84,500 Blackjacks.

golf ball sized bag of crack?

Boss is a legend.. That's an incredible amount of money to lose on a bad but ultimately, harmless decision. The thief's decision to steal was much worse but he is minted now.

Mahatma coat

This case Really Highlights how ****ed up the world is.

For people talking about progress, have we really gotten anywhere with yer liberal wishy washy outlook.

Bring back The stocks and flogging

ManofStraw

Its just a pity that he didn't try and steal from the boss's house then he could have used "reasonable force"

twinQuins

Mahatma coat wrote: »

This case Really Highlights how ****ed up the world is.

For people talking about progress, have we really gotten anywhere with yer liberal wishy washy outlook.

How is having a law against false imprisonment (a pretty basic law, ffs) "liberal wishy washy outlook"?

I fail to see what the issue is here - they both broke the law.

Naikon

Ali Babba wrote: »

Personally if I was the boss i'd refuse to pay the costs and the £5000, sign my house over to my wife or family and go to prison, i'd be out in a month or two, there's a lot of making in £34,000.

Why does everyone always think bosses are loaded? More often than not they don't get wages on many occasions while making sure their employees get their wages.

Criminal record or 34,000 down the swilly? I know which one I would want. Money can be replaced. Convictions on the other hand...

Latchy

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

If I were the boss I would make it my mission to fook this guys life up as much as possible. He gets a new job, tell his new employers what a thieving scumbag he is, tell his neighbours about what he has done, ditto the boys down the local pub. I'd make sure everyone who would have contact with him was aware of his actions and try and make him a social pariah.

There's no need to spread rumours or confront the thieving little sh!t, just tell the truth about how he screwed you over. He may scream harassment but I don't think there is any law against telling other people the truth.

That's what internet new and newspapers do ,inform us about crimes such as this ....all the time . I'm pretty sure that everybody who knows him, friends, neighbours will be aware of what he has done

Qu♊n♊ne wrote: »

How is having a law against false imprisonment (a pretty basic law, ffs) "liberal wishy washy outlook"?

I fail to see what the issue is here - they both broke the law.

Exactly , the guy is a thief ,that's being established and he will no doubt be brought to court and sentenced as he deserves .

His former boss also broke a law by his actions which was basically thinking he was above the law by false imprisonment ,when he didn't have to .

Naikon

So much for "Citizens Arrest". When it comes to law, he who has the most money, will gain the most favorable outcome possible. Don't believe me, try representing yourself in a court of law. Legal suicide imo. Play the game correctly.