Thanks Dept of Education

wellboy76

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

upandcumming

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

16 years?
Jesus, how many times did you repeat?

MagicMarker

16 years of Irish class?

What fúcking school did you go to?

listermint

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

A) You cant count.

You cant spell and your grammar is pretty poor.

c) You could have chosen a language in school to suit. But alas you were probably extremely lazy.

Have I hit the mark?

Kiith

Yeah, PayPal requires at least 20 years in an Irish class before you can apply.

barbiegirl

mmmmm I wonder does someone blame others for all there problems.
Get up off your arse and if you want to learn another language do it. I know French was definitely on our curriculum, and was compulsory 1st to 3rd year.
I was crap at languages, other than English, though my spelling is still bad. I don't blame anybody but myself for that. I had no interest, and was better with figures, science and business.
Maybe look in the mirror if you don't have the qualifications for PayPal jobs, oh and remember they are not the only jobs out there.

flyton5

I'm willing to bet you're not fluent in Irish, even after 16 years. So chances of you being fluent in Dutch or any other language are probably fairly small. Get yourself an application for a counter monkey job in McDonalds. You don't even need to speak English.

Dravokivich

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

well... at least you'll be able to watch that leaders debate in irish... right?

biko

I have a small violin here somewhere.

ghostdancer

when i was out of work in 2009, i took it upon myself to learn Spanish as thought it would be beneficial for jobs like the PayPal ones.
didn't need it in the end, but at least I didn't blame everyone else for my own laziness and lack of motivation, either in school, or after, from preventing me from getting a job.

Irish/the Dept. of Education have pretty much nothing to do with your inability to get a job.

cassi

I do believe French, German, Spanish and Italian (even Chinese) are also available in school! At least one of them must have been taught in your secondary school.

AnonoBoy

Did you not learn Spanish, French, German or Italian in secondary school?

Speak Now

I'm assuming you're from Waterford wellboy:)

smk89

So what was stopping you from learning dutch in your spare time? Or now? Blaming someone won't solve the problem, try doing something about it.

sbsquarepants

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

This post is full of something, but i'm not sure it's dutch! Well could be dutch gold i suppose.

Now calm down, and tell us what the problem is.
Why can't you apply? It seems unfair of an Irish based employer to exclude people on the grounds of having studied Irish, which is after all compulsary!
Maybe you've got this all wrong?
And what happened to your apostrophe key?

chin_grin

So Irish is all Dutch to you?

seamus

What I love is that there are probably 2-3 million people in this country who spent 14 years in school learning Irish from the age of four.

Yet TG4 will still need to put English subtitles on the Irish language leader's debate today

Epic fail Dept. of Education.

Poor Uncle Tom

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

AH is low on sympathy.......:p

I had very regimental irish teachers too, and although I could understand Irish, as in the Nuacht, etc., I didn't feel confident enough to speak it, until I was helping one of my kids with his homework and I stuck with it.

Irish is a beautiful language, well structured and forgiving on the speaker. It is also much more pleasing to insult someone in Irish as the meaning takes on a new life of it's own in the language. A mixture of irony, begrudgery, vitreol and humour......:p

What other language can say that?

ScumLord

The whole education system is a joke. What's worse is they've done the research and know how to get children learning.

I hated school but have found out it had nothing to do with me hating learning because I love learning these days. I can't get enough of learning about new things, so that was in me all along and the school system did nothing but suppress it.

listermint

ScumLord wrote: »

The whole education system is a joke. What's worse is they've done the research and know how to get children learning.

I hated school but have found out it had nothing to do with me hating learning because I love learning these days. I can't get enough of learning about new things, so that was in me all along and the school system did nothing but suppress it.

Was it really in you all along? or are you more mature now to handle learning and see the benefits.

I think your arguement is somewhat flawed.

I hated cheese when I was a kid. Do i blame the cheese makers ?



I now love cheese FACT.

Procasinator

seamus wrote: »

What I love is that there are probably 2-3 million people in this country who spent 14 years in school learning Irish from the age of four.

Yet TG4 will still need to put English subtitles on the Irish language leader's debate today

Epic fail Dept. of Education.

Well, if x is the total population of Ireland, and y is the aforementioned 2-3 million people, then z in x-y=z is still a significant amount of people.

Do you think that a portion of people in z would not like to watch the debate? (and other TG4 programming)

Also, how about the people who are only in say there year 7 of there 14 years? Do you think it might not help as part of their education to get translation for words they cannot comprehend?

admiralofthefleet

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

i learned french in primary and secondary and german was taught in my secondary school
the options are there, did you not take them?

seamus

Procasinator wrote: »

Well, if x is the total population of Ireland, and y is the aforementioned 2-3 million people, then z in x-y=z is still a significant amount of people.

Do you think that a portion of people in z would not like to watch the debate? (and other TG4 programming)

Also, how about the people who are only in say there year 7 of there 14 years? Do you think it might not help as part of their education to get translation for words they cannot comprehend?

It's a politicial debate. For Irish citizens of voting age. The number of them who haven't gone through 14 years of Irish is very small indeed. Political debates aren't for children and I'd expect someone in year 10 of their Irish education to be almost fluent. Most people come out with better French after 5 years of studying it than Irish.

My point being that if the education system worked for Irish, there would be no need to have any subtitles on TG4.

ScumLord

listermint wrote: »

Was it really in you all along? or are you more mature now to handle learning and see the benefits.

I think your arguement is somewhat flawed.

I hated cheese when I was a kid. Do i blame the cheese makers ?



I now love cheese FACT.

Thinking back on it now I could learn something with great ease if I had an interest in it. Schools just don't put information in a way that encourages learning. Children have a much greater capacity for learning than adults they instinctively want to learn things it's in our nature as children but the education system destroys that.

Procasinator

seamus wrote: »

It's a politicial debate. For Irish citizens of voting age. The number of them who haven't gone through 14 years of Irish is very small indeed. Political debates aren't for children and I'd expect someone in year 10 of their Irish education to be almost fluent. Most people come out with better French after 5 years of studying it than Irish.

My point being that if the education system worked for Irish, there would be no need to have any subtitles on TG4.

I have 0 years of Irish and I am an Irish citizen (and hence can vote). I'll be glad if they have subtitles for the political debate, as they are issues that effect everyone.

UglyBolloxFace

biko wrote: »

I have a small violin here somewhere.

Replace 'waitresses' with 'people who blame the government on everything'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jrKXf2G-AA

wellboy76

HAHA, some real uptight fuppers on here. I actually have a job but the fact a lot of people have Irish as a second language and then broken French or German as a result of this seems such a waste.

Can see a lot of them jobs going to foreigners unfortunately.

ScumLord

wellboy76 wrote: »

HAHA, some real uptight fuppers on here. I actually have a job but the fact a lot of people have Irish as a second language and then broken French or German as a result of this seems such a waste.

Can see a lot of them jobs going to foreigners unfortunately.

Ya it's a pity we don't have some other widely used language to fall back on. If only English was the worldwide language of business and.. .wait..

kraggy

I wish to fúck people would lay off the Irish language.

Irish secondary school graduates are crap at science and maths too. And whatever European languages they learn too. Our ability to speak French/German is crap compared to graduates' in them countries abilitiy to speak English.

Even if you think that Irish is badly taught, it's not the language's fault. It's the system's.

It seems cool to diss Irish these days. Grow the fúck up.

Feeona

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thanks very much for putting me through 16 bastarding years of bloody Irish class in school.

Now I can t apply for a Pay Pal job because most of us wasted our time learning it.

It will be full of Dutch.

wellboy76 wrote: »

HAHA, some real uptight fuppers on here.

I see what you mean

seamus

Procasinator wrote: »

I have 0 years of Irish and I am an Irish citizen (and hence can vote).

You and 4 million others

TimeToShine

Here seriously, everyone who's saying OP should have done a language in LC, do you honestly have any idea what you're saying? The only way a language becomes a viable subject at LC level is if you've done the work from first to third year, otherwise it's pretty much pointless, hence OP picking a subject he probably could have done well in over a language he would have struggled to keep at higher level, let alone develop a fluency good enough to apply for a job in said language.

wellboy76

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i learned french in primary and secondary and german was taught in my secondary school
the options are there, did you not take them?

Would have loved to had an option in Primary but it wasn't there for us. It was the 80's

TimeToShine

TimeToShine wrote: »

Here seriously, everyone who's saying OP should have done a language in LC, do you honestly have any idea what you're saying? The only way a language becomes a viable subject at LC level is if you've done the work from first to third year, otherwise it's pretty much pointless, hence OP picking a subject he probably could have done well in over a language he would have struggled to keep at higher level, let alone develop a fluency good enough to apply for a job in said language.

What?

jester77

TimeToShine wrote: »

Here seriously, everyone who's saying OP should have done a language in LC, do you honestly have any idea what you're saying?

Yeah, they are saying that he could have picked German/French/Spanish/Italian/Latin/etc to study for his/her LC. I picked German for mine, actually came in handy later in life!

wellboy76

TimeToShine wrote: »

Here seriously, everyone who's saying OP should have done a language in LC, do you honestly have any idea what you're saying? The only way a language becomes a viable subject at LC level is if you've done the work from first to third year, otherwise it's pretty much pointless, hence OP picking a subject he probably could have done well in over a language he would have struggled to keep at higher level, let alone develop a fluency good enough to apply for a job in said language.

I can hold a conversation in irish albeit badly. I have very basic French mainly because of this I suppose. French or German would have been a lot more useful to me now alright as those irish conversations are only with my kids doing their homework

wellboy76

wellboy76 wrote: »

Can see a lot of them jobs going to foreigners unfortunately.

Maybe because they're not p!ssing and moaning about something and actually get off their backsides

If you can't speak a language, go learn it or apply for a different job

Procasinator

seamus wrote: »

You and 4 million others

:P

Anyhow, not trying to disagree with your point (state Irish teaching), just don't agree with the example (political debate with subtitles).

TimeToShine

bluewolf wrote: »

What?

Why would you pick a language when you could pick a subject that can be easily crammed and do a lot better in it with a lot less work? And this is coming from someone who did a language at the LC and totally regrets it.

Corruptedmorals

Most universities require Irish and a third language, I'd imagine that's a big fat reason. (Yes, I know Trinity requires either or)

Krusader

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Most universities require Irish and a third language, I'd imagine that's a big fat reason. (Yes, I know Trinity requires either or)

I think it's only NUIGalway and NUIMaynooth now

sollar

All jokes aside its an awful waste of time learning that language. I hated spending nearly 2 hours a day at national school on it and i still failed it in the leaving.

About 5000 hours of my life was ruined because of irish.

Krusader

sollar wrote: »

About 5000 hours of my life was ruined because of irish.

Bit dramatic, no??

AnonoBoy

sollar wrote: »

All jokes aside its an awful waste of time learning that language. I hated spending nearly 2 hours a day at national school on it and i still failed it in the leaving.

About 5000 hours of my life was ruined because of irish.

I've about 20,000 hours of my life that were wasted on a treacherous, unfaithful, conniving woman but you don't hear me moaning about it.

juma

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I've about 20,000 hours of my life that were wasted on a treacherous, unfaithful, coniving woman but you don't hear me moaning about it.

Maybe if you had got your woman moaning a bit more often she wouldn't have been off riding all round the city..........and you spelt conniving wrong.

munchkin_utd

sollar wrote: »

All jokes aside its an awful waste of time learning that language. I hated spending nearly 2 hours a day at national school on it and i still failed it in the leaving.

About 5000 hours of my life was ruined because of irish.

wasted more on boards at this stage i think!!

AnonoBoy

juma wrote: »

Maybe if you had got your woman moaning a bit more often she wouldn't have been off riding all round the city..........and you spelt conniving wrong.

See the thing is I murdered her because she was always correcting typos.

darragh16

If we spoke Irish as our number one language, we would be able to learn and speak foreign languages easier and better.

Faith+1

darragh16 wrote: »

If we spoke Irish as our number one language, we would be able to learn and speak foreign languages easier and better.

Irish is the number one language of the state yet we speak the Queens. Ah well typical lazy ass Irish that we are.