How cool of this by Obama,USA take a bow!

clln

USA bashing is such a popular sport within America and abroad this medal of honor video just released is very moving IMO.
wish we had something like this in Ireland to pay respect to those who served Ireland well.
really nice to see people being cherished despite their age.
short Ad followed by 3 min vid.
it is not compulsary to be cynical now is it?:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyXBNJDz1SY

admiralofthefleet

i see what you did there face on obama

clln

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i see what you did there face on obama

watch the video just unfortunate that the still pic makes it look cynical!:)

Agonist

I don't get it

He gave George Bush snr a medal?

clln

Agonist wrote: »

I don't get it

He gave George Bush snr a medal?

Bush Snr was human like everybody else,he at least stopped at Iraq's border unlike his son.

really though my point was how nice to see the elderly being remembered,not cast aside and forgotten.

Badgermonkey

clln wrote: »

USA bashing is such a popular sport within America

Really? If anything, I would have thought blind patriotism was the overriding sentiment.

Medals are nice, though surely it is how the average older citizens are treated that truly reflects the worth we place upon their contribution.

Turtyturd

On a positive note they can sell their medals when American society fails them despite their contributions.

alejandro1977

Agonist wrote: »

I don't get it

He gave George Bush snr a medal?

signed up to the US Air Force on his 18th birthday - youngest fighter pilot...

War Hero.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#World_War_II

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

alejandro1977 wrote: »

War Hero.

Oxymoron

orourkeda

Turtyturd wrote: »

On a positive note they can sell their medals when American society fails them despite their contributions.

Very true.

I wonder will Mr Obama make a speech about that.

Badgermonkey

Poxy moron, according to the Kurds, who he left to fend for themselves, after urging them to rise up against Hussein in 1991.

gbee

clln wrote: »

really though my point was how nice to see the elderly being remembered,not cast aside and forgotten.

No, it only confirms the dynasty and suppression live on in the presidency, no change in fact, just another face.

jackiebaron

alejandro1977 wrote: »

signed up to the US Air Force on his 18th birthday - youngest fighter pilot...

War Hero.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#World_War_II

Scum of the earth. War Criminal. CIA stooge. Arms dealer. Assassin.

And just think..when George Snr was flying around the pacific, his father, Prescott Bush, was selling weapons and diesel to the Nazis who were using them to kill his brothers-in-arms.

What a family. Absolute vermin.

dolphin city

clln wrote: »

Bush Snr was human like everybody else,he at least stopped at Iraq's border unlike his son.

really though my point was how nice to see the elderly being remembered,not cast aside and forgotten.

Oh Pulease - a medal is not going to feed or clothe the elderly is it - america is ruthless when it comes to not being able to pay your bills - your'e out - elderly or not. They walk by the elderly every day and don't give them a second though, while the poor buggers walk around with their trolley's full of their life.

Pauleta

clln wrote: »

Bush Snr was human like everybody else,he at least stopped at Iraq's border unlike his son.

really though my point was how nice to see the elderly being remembered,not cast aside and forgotten.

Are you a fan of Saddam Hussein?

Sykk

In b4 good discussion on obama turns to conspiracy theory about hairy bush...

Oh wait

AnonoBoy

clln wrote: »

USA bashing is such a popular sport within America and abroad this medal of honor video just released is very moving.

Amazing how realistic the graphics are but it does seem like the gameplay might have suffered slightly.

RichieC

OP:Medal of freedom, not honour... jesus you posted it and you got it wrong..

RichieC

Pauleta wrote: »

Are you a fan of Saddam Hussein?

False dichotomy.

AnonoBoy

RichieC wrote: »

False dichotomy.

That was his first album before he got signed up to a major dicatorship wasn't it?

Sisko

Is the OP American?

Canis Lupus

Pesky propaganda.

RichieC

Sisko wrote: »

Is the OP American?

|Well he spelled honour wrong so I'm going to say, most likely.

Manic Moran

The Medal of Honor is a very rare valour award given to members of the military by the President on behalf of Congress for doing something incredibly foolish or selfless (or both). Ony one has been awarded to a living recipient since Vietnam.

The Presidential Medal of Freedom is awarded at the President's discretion for generall all-round awesomeness at something usually not involving getting shot at. (to wit: (1), the security or national interests of the United States, or (2) world peace*, or (3) cultural or other significant public or private endeavors. )

Bush Snr was human like everybody else, he at least stopped at Iraq's border unlike his son

History Fail.

Well he spelled honour wrong so I'm going to say, most likely

There is no choice in the spelling of "Medal of Honor". It's a title.

NTM

*I wonder how many Miss Americas have received it?

RichieC

Manic Moran wrote: »

There is no choice in the spelling of "Medal of Honor". It's a title.

Don't be fking ridiculous, we are in europe we spell honour correctly.

It wasn't me!

RichieC wrote: »

Don't be fking ridiculous, we are in europe we spell honour correctly.

His point was that it's not the medal of honour; it's the Medal of Honor. If I were awarded one, it's going to be the same thing. If an American is awarded the Croix de Guerre, they're not awarded the cross of war either.

clln

Pauleta wrote: »

Are you a fan of Saddam Hussein?

Now that is an insult!
twas merely about human respect not about Bush or war.
there is politics forum and military forum for that!

sorry i dropped a cynical front for a moment,must not do again!

no mention at all of the others who were given this?
they must be all bad also?

the US is doing a great job of destroying itself from within let alone the the unbalanced thinking that see's no good in that Country.

Irish people wishing for its loss of influence is like turkey's wishing for an early xmas.

does that give any insight into my true colors erm colours?

Sticky_Fingers

RichieC wrote: »

Don't be fking ridiculous, we are in europe we spell honour correctly.

Well my spell checker seems to have been co-opted by the yanky imperialist pigdogs because it always provides the wrong (i.e American) spelling whenever I post.

gbee

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Well my spell checker seems to have been co-opted by the yanky imperialist pigdogs because it always provides the wrong (i.e American) spelling whenever I post.

You're on windows 7?

This has become a nightmare. Everything defaults to US English. Delete the US English out of the dictionary and set up UK English and next thing, the US English is back and is default once more.

RichieC

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Well my spell checker seems to have been co-opted by the yanky imperialist pigdogs because it always provides the wrong (i.e American) spelling whenever I post.

mine too.. they invade everything :mad:

ReacherCreature

clln wrote: »

USA bashing is such a popular sport within America and abroad this medal of honor video just released is very moving IMO.
wish we had something like this in Ireland to pay respect to those who served Ireland well.
really nice to see people being cherished despite their age.
short Ad followed by 3 min vid.
it is not compulsary to be cynical now is it?:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyXBNJDz1SY

Medal of Freedom.

clln wrote: »

Bush Snr was human like everybody else,he at least stopped at Iraq's border unlike his son.

Bush Sr's objective was to eject Hussein and the Iraqi military from Kuwait and back into Iraq. His aim was not the ousting of Hussein. Bush Jr's objective was to get rid of Hussein. Know your history.

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Poxy moron, according to the Kurds, who he left to fend for themselves, after urging them to rise up against Hussein in 1991.

Eh you've answered your own 'question' there. Urging the Kurds, much like hoping bombing Baghdad surgically would force Hussein to call it quits and stand down would happen. They would be hopefully 'unintended' consequences. The Kurds were fighting. The Iraqi military were fighting. One of them was bound to be defeated.

jackiebaron wrote: »

Scum of the earth. War Criminal. CIA stooge. Arms dealer. Assassin.

And just think..when George Snr was flying around the pacific, his father, Prescott Bush, was selling weapons and diesel to the Nazis who were using them to kill his brothers-in-arms.

What a family. Absolute vermin.

War Criminal?
CIA stooge? He worked for them. His job. Doesn't make him a 'stooge'.

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Well my spell checker seems to have been co-opted by the yanky imperialist pigdogs because it always provides the wrong (i.e American) spelling whenever I post.

Turn it off, use different explorer, use English spelling. Problem solved.

Badgermonkey

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Eh you've answered your own 'question' there. Urging the Kurds, much like hoping bombing Baghdad surgically would force Hussein to call it quits and stand down would happen. They would be hopefully 'unintended' consequences. The Kurds were fighting. The Iraqi military were fighting. One of them was bound to be defeated

Post me the braille version, may be an easier read.

Wasn't aware I'd posed a 'question'.

clln

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Bush Sr's objective was to eject Hussein and the Iraqi military from Kuwait and back into Iraq. His aim was not the ousting of Hussein. Bush Jr's objective was to get rid of Hussein. Know your history

Oh FFS what do you think i meant about Bush SNR stopping at the border.
WTF is wrong with some AH's posters?????:mad:

i would be happy to engage you on the history of Gulf war one!

starbelgrade

Manic Moran wrote: »

*I wonder how many Miss Americas have received it?

I'd say most of them have got it at some stage.

Agonist

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Medal of Freedom.

When the US patch up their differences with Sarkozy the medal will revert to its original name, Medal of Frenchness

ArtSmart

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Oxymoron

you're half right.

clln

dolphin city wrote: »

america is ruthless when it comes to not being able to pay your bills - your'e out - elderly or not. They walk by the elderly every day and don't give them a second though, while the poor buggers walk around with their trolley's full of their life.

hello wake up, we Irish people do exactly the same thing to all our vunerable,we just fool ourselves that we are in some way more decent.

clln

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Really? If anything, I would have thought blind patriotism was the overriding sentiment.

Blind patriotism never featured in Ireland?

clln

So other than Smartassing, who is proud of their post(s) here?

MidgetWrestler

We give medals out here, the gaisce award, our military get medals for overseas missions but medals of honour / gallantry are few and far between.. none of them are 'cool' though, and in general, I get the impression that the ordinary public couldn't care less about our military, a good deal would argue that it's a waste of time money resources.. Medal of Honour, sure that;s a computer game?

Badgermonkey

clln wrote: »

Blind patriotism never featured in Ireland?

Your original post stated 'USA bashing is such a popular sport within America and abroad.'

I pointed out that, in my opinion, blind patriotism was the overriding sentiment in the States.

I get to the States on a monthly basis, read U.S. papers, watch U.S. news, talk to American friends and colleagues and have a great affection for its people, the landscape and its history. I also find its political discourse fascinating. Within the country, I've never been aware of 'USA bashing'.

If you gave some examples, that may be a discussion of interest to us both.

Ireland is another matter and possibly another discussion.

Metallitroll

clln wrote: »

USA bashing is such a popular sport within America and abroad this medal of honor video just released is very moving IMO.
wish we had something like this in Ireland to pay respect to those who served Ireland well.

USA blowing is an even more popular sport, believe it or not. take a maddafacking bow

Obama can suck my hairy balls.

Manic Moran

clln wrote: »

Oh FFS what do you think i meant about Bush SNR stopping at the border.

Well, since he didn't stop at the border (or more accurately, since Coalition military forces didn't stop at the border), I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

NTM

AskMyChocolate

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Medal of Freedom.



Bush Sr's objective was to eject Hussein and the Iraqi military from Kuwait and back into Iraq. His aim was not the ousting of Hussein. Bush Jr's objective was to get rid of Hussein. Know your history.



Eh you've answered your own 'question' there. Urging the Kurds, much like hoping bombing Baghdad surgically would force Hussein to call it quits and stand down would happen. They would be hopefully 'unintended' consequences. The Kurds were fighting. The Iraqi military were fighting. One of them was bound to be defeated.



War Criminal?
CIA stooge? He worked for them. His job. Doesn't make him a 'stooge'.



Turn it off, use different explorer, use English spelling. Problem solved.

Both of their objectives was to use up weapons/ordnance so that they would need to replenish the arsenal. They're arms dealers ffs. Don't be so naive. There's a lot of money to be made out of a war. Ask Cheney. These people are utterly valueless scum who have absolutely no compunction in killing Iraqis or their own soldiers for a buck. It's Enron with guns.

clln

Pointless to contribute any further to this thread.
so in the OP i could have phrased things better i agree,however by accident or design most posters failed to see it was just a feel good story and Bush being singled out from the others who received the award just sidetracked the spirit of the post.

thanks to those who made posts that made sense.

all the best.

TheRevolution

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Both of their objectives was to use up weapons/ordnance so that they would need to replenish the arsenal. They're arms dealers ffs. Don't be so naive. There's a lot of money to be made out of a war. Ask Cheney. These people are utterly valueless scum who have absolutely no compunction in killing Iraqis or their own soldiers for a buck. It's Enron with guns.

Yeah because the US were the aggressors in the Gulf War.....:rolleyes:

Your theory fails for the simple reason that when George Bush Senior was in power during the CIA's clandestine operations in Afghanistan he continously bought Chinese made weapons as it was the mujahdeen's preference. This was after the soviets had left by the way so this wasn't a case of covering US involvement (as was the case before Soviet withdrawal) now surely if their sole motivations were profiteering from arms sales then they would have insisted in sending their own American made weapons? But they didn't, the only US made weapons they sent to the mujahdeen were stinger missiles and that was only because no other nation had something as effective.
Essentially Cheeney and Bush Senior spent tens of billions on arms during the 80s to early 90s for the Afghan mujahdeen and at the request of the people they were sponsoring they mainly bought foreign made weapons. If their sole objective was profiteering from arms sales then this doesn't make sense at all.

gbee

clln wrote: »

it was just a feel good story BUT Bush being singled out from the others who received the award just UNDERMINDED the spirit of the post.

Just fixed that for ye, no bother. Cheers mate.

ReacherCreature

clln wrote: »

Oh FFS what do you think i meant about Bush SNR stopping at the border.
WTF is wrong with some AH's posters?????:mad:

i would be happy to engage you on the history of Gulf war one!

BOTH had different objectives. You said Bush Sr. was human as he stopped at the border. Bush Jr. is not human as he did not stop? It was his objective to go into Iraq.

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Both of their objectives was to use up weapons/ordnance so that they would need to replenish the arsenal. They're arms dealers ffs. Don't be so naive. There's a lot of money to be made out of a war. Ask Cheney. These people are utterly valueless scum who have absolutely no compunction in killing Iraqis or their own soldiers for a buck. It's Enron with guns.

Riiiight.

Badgermonkey

clln wrote: »

Pointless to contribute any further to this thread.
so in the OP i could have phrased things better i agree,however by accident or design most posters failed to see it was just a feel good story and Bush being singled out from the others who received the award just sidetracked the spirit of the post.

thanks to those who made posts that made sense.

all the best.

Once you place the original post in AH, the thread can go in any direction and the OP has to roll with it as it's outside of your control, that's what makes AH interesting.

Your choice is to either engage with those who've made a contribution or withdraw.