Green Internet tax to pay for RTE

http://greenparty.newsweaver.ie/1meu70zu3u8nagng2rkjst?email=true

Green Party TD for Dublin South Eamon Ryan said today that if in Government the Green Party would abolish the television license fee as funding mechanism for the public sector component of RTÉ.

One approach to the financing of public sector broadcasting, including the possibility of other media, involves some small charge on the volume of data. This type of funding model would fund public service content and be much easier to charge and cheaper to operate than our current license fee collection system.

first the text message suggestion now this

the genius of some people is such that mere mortals like I can simply not fathom the logic

KELTICKNIGHTT

blindjustice wrote: »

http://greenparty.newsweaver.ie/1meu70zu3u8nagng2rkjst?email=true





first the text message suggestion now this

the genius of some people is such that mere mortals like I can simply not fathom the logic

so where would rte get the fund stoo run its services unless rte is sold off as private

i57dwun4yb1pt8

you do know that Eamon Ryan is a confirmed moron , dont you ?

EI111

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

so where would rte get the fund stoo run its services unless rte is sold off as private

Could they not run off advertising, like the private company would use to run them????

Syferus

Yeah, that's going to go over great with the Greens' mostly younger - and hence more likely to be internet literate - voting base.

Ryan seems a well-meaning man but so many of his big ideas make little sense, not least this and that free-to-air European rugby debate he inflamed last year.

Solair

After their performance in Government, I would rather eat a bucket of organic manure than vote for the Greens.

However, with this idiotic policy, I will now be actively campaigning against them if any of my friends/family are even slightly leaning that way!

Ireland's got enough problems with poor broadband penitration, slow speeds and caps without undermining our internet access even further.

RTE could do with slashing a lot of its fat.

For example, how the hell can it take 2,214 to run a relatively small TV/Radio organisation?
Also, it's even worse when you consider that the majority of programmes are made by 3rd party production companies who usually hire people on a short contract basis only. So, they aren't even included in that figure.

2,214 people to effectively play 4 CDs and ensure that 2 (usually pre-recorded) TV shows go out on air!

The vast majority of people actually involved in programme making and presentation (excluding a few big names) seem to be on pretty bad terms while those who basically seem to push paper around are paid well, pensioned and there are WAY WAY too many of them!

KELTICKNIGHTT

Solair wrote: »

After their performance in Government, I would rather eat a bucket of organic manure than vote for the Greens.

However, with this idiotic policy, I will now be actively campaigning against them if any of my friends/family are even slightly leaning that way!

Ireland's got enough problems with poor broadband penitration, slow speeds and caps without undermining our internet access even further.

RTE could do with slashing a lot of its fat.

For example, how the hell can it take 2,214 to run a relatively small TV/Radio organisation?
Also, it's even worse when you consider that the majority of programmes are made by 3rd party production companies who usually hire people on a short contract basis only. So, they aren't even included in that figure.

2,214 people to effectively play 4 CDs and ensure that 2 (usually pre-recorded) TV shows go out on air!

The vast majority of people actually involved in programme making and presentation (excluding a few big names) seem to be on pretty bad terms while those who basically seem to push paper around are paid well, pensioned and there are WAY WAY too many of them!

rte is like the hse

Tarobot

Well done for creating a non story and more biased anti-Green hype. At this stage people are positively reveling in ignoring the facts.

There is no Green Party policy on this because there hasn't been a vote and what Eamon Ryan is actually proposing is a debate of alternatives to the TV licence, which is quite obviously outdated.

While we're at it, here is the FG policy on the matter:

"We will change the TV Licence into a household-based Public Broadcasting Charge applied to all households and applicable businesses regardless of the device they use to access content."

Are you all going to start jumping up and down about a FG policy to tax the internet? Why not?

ei.sdraob

Dont we already have to pay tv license even if you dont have a tv in home, since your computer could be used to receive rte player.

Charging a tax per volume of data transferred into a house hold is an incredibly idiotic idea from no other than the Grinning Greening? idiot himself. Whats next the nanny state authoritarians use deep packet inspection of all we get to charge X cent for Y gb of "stuff" you download. Look at the brightside our internet is so retarded thanks to these pricks they wont be able to tax much :P

Tarobot wrote: »

Are you all going to start jumping up and down about a FG policy to tax the internet? Why not?

Yes I ****ing would, I already have a huge issue with FG and ACTA

stakey

Luckily the Greens will (hopefully) be relegated to a no seat party. However, my concern is the two parties likely to be in the next government, Fine Gael and Labour.

Fine Gael have outlined that they do intend to make changes to the TV licensing system in place ATM, 'tv licensing will become a public broadcasting charge applied to all homes and businesses regardless of how they access content'.

I can't find anything explicit to the TV license (do add if you know) for Labour, but their election manifesto does outline a plan to merge comreg and the broadcasting authority. They also plan to examine the role of the TV license. If labour are merging the broadcasting authority and comreg they'll probably go down the same route as Fine Gael.

So much for the smart economy... :rolleyes:

mkdon05

Does the tv licence only fund rte? If so why don't we scrap rte and abolish it. Paying one person around a million is crazy. Rte is full of substandard crap anyway.

randomhuman

stakey wrote: »

Luckily the Greens will (hopefully) be relegated to a no seat party. However, my concern is the two parties likely to be in the next government, Fine Gael and Labour.

Fine Gael have outlined that they do intend to make changes to the TV licensing system in place ATM, 'tv licensing will become a public broadcasting charge applied to all homes and businesses regardless of how they access content'.

I can't find anything explicit to the TV license (do add if you know) for Labour, but their election manifesto does outline a plan to merge comreg and the broadcasting authority. They also plan to examine the role of the TV license. If labour are merging the broadcasting authority and comreg they'll probably go down the same route as Fine Gael.

So much for the smart economy... :rolleyes:

No escape huh?

I paid €160 last year for a TV license and the only RTE content I received was the leaders debate on Monday over the internetz. Good value for money.

stakey

randomhuman wrote: »

No escape huh?

Looks like it. Political parties are trying to dress it up as an action that saves you money, but in the long run it will probably end up costing us the same, if not more depening on how they implement this.

ednwireland

i dread to think how much data our company manages to pump through the wires (and we are pretty small) never mind what i use at home ,on my smartphone, etc, etc

totally dumb idea, i might have some sympathy with the funds being ring fenced to improve the internet infrastructure, but to fund rte what a joke

mickoneill30

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Dont we already have to pay tv license even if you dont have a tv in home, since your computer could be used to receive rte player.

Nope.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html

"Every household, business or institution in Ireland with a television or equipment capable of receiving a television signal (using an aerial, satellite dish, cable or other means) must have a television licence."

RTE Player isn't a Television Signal.
If you had a TV Tuner in your PC then you could receive a signal so you need a license. Similarly if you use a TV as a monitor but never for receiving a TV signal you need a license because it's capable of receiving a signal.