Evening Herald next to go?

kevin99

Will the Evening Herald follow the Sunday Tribune into oblivion?
Circulation is down to 65,000 from 100,000 ten years ago.
That is some drop.
Just read it last week and there wasn't one decent Dublin news story in it.
It can't continue to trade unless it becomes a freesheet.

IRE60

Its not going the free route - thats already a crowed and poor revenue market. It does get ad revenue especially on a sell up with the Indo - so that would have to be factored in. Their ABC sales figures are out on Thursday and it will be interesting to see if In-Dublin gave it any lifeline.

outandabout

There are very few successful evening papers in other countries.

The Herald may go eventually, but not this year...

Dave!

It would bring a big smile to my face if it went down the tubes.

Hate it. Disgusting rag.

murrayp4

The only, and I mean only good thing about the Herald is The Far Side...

kevin99

I remember the Evening Herald when it was a newspaper. It ran really good 'news stories'. It had political correspondents in Katie Hannon (Now RTE) and Des Mullan (retired), Industrial correspondent in Katherine Donnelly (now Education reporter with the Indo) ; Health Corr in Stephen McGrath (HSE communications) and Fiona Dillon (still with Herald) ; News Editor and Business editor in Ken Curran (self employed in PR/Media skills training);Noirin Hegarty ( Dep. Editor now Editor of Sunday Tribune); Stephen Rae ( crime corr now the Herald editor).

redalan

It suffers from lack of competition. It is a terrible, terrible newspaper.

Koloman

Overall I still think it's a good newspaper. I know it's harder to do and costs more but they should have more investigative journalism in the paper rather than opinion pieces by non entities like Colette Fitzpatrick, Anna Nolan and Michael O'Doherty.

I don't really care about Colette's nappy changing routine or how she has a go at men every other week.

It's boring and repetitive stuff.

sgb

I don't buy the Herald but read bits and pieces of it online, probably like alot of other people

Run_to_da_hills

There will always be a market for toilet Paper.

coylemj

Filthy rag specialising in crime, scandal and invented stories about so-called celebrities. It's even worse than it's Sunday big brother which is an achievement in itself.

Firetrap

It's probably surviving because outside of the cities, it's just about the only evening paper there is. Such a shame it's pretty vacuous apart from the sports pages and that it can be read in about 10 minutes.

jack presley

coylemj wrote: »

Filthy rag specialising in crime.

Especially fat Freddie who gets a front page headline most weeks.

UngratefulWhelp

I don't work for the Herald, but I know some who do. If you look at their front page, it is virtually guaranteed to be a story lifted from one of that day's other tabloids.

The only time they actually break anything is when there's something overnight.

Their deadlines are horrific, I think the first edition has to go to print by 11am, the last by one o'clock. That in itself probably contributes as much as anything to its poor quality.

outandabout

Their deadlines are horrific, I think the first edition has to go to print by 11am, the last by one o'clock. That in itself probably contributes as much as anything to its poor quality.

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There was a time when the Evening Herald and Press would have copy deadlines of 9am for 11 am first editions on the street.

Reporters would be in from 6.30 ringing around doing follow ups on the morning papers.

The early calls would be to the local garda stations and after 7 am politicians, trade unionists and anyone else were fair game for an early wake up call.

By 8am, the lead story had been decided on following this trawl.

I don't think early deadlines are responsible for bad stories. The quality of the Herald, as with other papers, is down to the the quality of its journalists and management.

Cavehill Red

kevin99 wrote: »

I remember the Evening Herald when it was a newspaper. It ran really good 'news stories'. It had political correspondents in Katie Hannon (Now RTE) and Des Mullan (retired), Industrial correspondent in Katherine Donnelly (now Education reporter with the Indo) ; Health Corr in Stephen McGrath (HSE communications) and Fiona Dillon (still with Herald) ; News Editor and Business editor in Ken Curran (self employed in PR/Media skills training);Noirin Hegarty ( Dep. Editor now Editor of Sunday Tribune); Stephen Rae ( crime corr now the Herald editor).

As you point out, the bulk of the talent long since departed the Herald and what remains is responsible for its decline.

outandabout

I remember the Evening Herald when it was a newspaper. It ran really good 'news stories'
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I'd agree that the Herald has had better days but argue that the Evening Press, even when it's circulation was in decline, was a better newspaper.

The closure of the Press gave the Herald a free run and it might be argued that in a monopoly situation , the Herald has allowed its standards to drop since the Press went off the streets.