Party policies on church in schools?

whatdoicare

I know this has probably been asked somewhere else but I've been looking around and I can't seem to find exactly what different parties policies are on separation of schools from religion?

Is there a party (besides sf) that has plans to enforce our human right of schooling our children without baptism?
It's a worrying subject for me, I really don't want to be forced to baptise my child just so they can go to school

MagicMarker

Atheist Ireland posed such questions to all Parties, answers can be found here.

I haven't read all responses but afaik Sinn Fein agree that schooling should be secular.

CashMoney

I normally wouldn't have considered voting for Sinn Fein but their clear and concise stance on the separation of church and state will swing it for me.

Dave!

CashMoney wrote: »

I normally wouldn't have considered voting for Sinn Fein but their clear and concise stance on the separation of church and state will swing it for me.

Ahh here... Is that really the number one priority at the moment? Religious issues can be addressed and lobbied for when the country has begun to recover economically. Vote on that basis IMO.

CashMoney

Dave! wrote: »

Ahh here... Is that really the number one priority at the moment?

It is mine, yes.

Dave! wrote: »

Religious issues can be addressed and lobbied for when the country has begun to recover economically. Vote on that basis IMO.

Too late then. Why would they bother changing their stance after they've been voted in?

MagicMarker

Vote for Sinn Fein and there won't be any money to fund the schools within 2 years.

Dave!

Fair enough, I think your priorities are a bit skewed, but each to their own

CashMoney

MagicMarker wrote: »

Vote for Sinn Fein and there won't be any money to fund the schools within 2 years.

Well the current government were a good choice by the people weren't they, what with the great state of the country's finances and all that...

MagicMarker

CashMoney wrote: »

Well the current government were a good choice by the people weren't they, what with the great state of the country's finances and all that...

I never said that, but if you want things to get worse, as in much much worse, then go ahead and vote for Sinn Fein.

CashMoney

MagicMarker wrote: »

I never said that, but if you want things to get worse, as in much much worse, then go ahead and vote for Sinn Fein.

And if you want things to stay the way they are, vote Fianna Fail OR Fine Gael (or probably labour)...

MagicMarker

CashMoney wrote: »

And if you want things to stay the way they are, vote Fianna Fail OR Fine Gael (or probably labour)...

Wut?

You said in your first post that you would not have even considered voting for Sinn Fein, and now you've decided to vote solely because of their secularity.

What part of their economic policies have changed so drastically in the last 60 minutes for you to go from ''I won't even consider them'' to ''they are better then all other options''?

CashMoney

MagicMarker wrote: »

Wut?

You said in your first post that you would not have even considered voting for Sinn Fein, and now you've decided to vote solely because of their secularity.

What part of their economic policies have changed so drastically in the last 60 minutes for you to go from ''I won't even consider them'' to ''they are better then all other options''?

I never said I wouldn't vote for them because of bad economic policies. It was you who questioned Sinn Feins economic policies I thouight it was very clear that I wasn't voting based on economic policies. All of the parties are promising fantastic things with regards to jobs, economic reform etc.

The thing that separates Sinn Fein for me is their secular stance. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Pushtrak

CashMoney wrote: »

I never said I wouldn't vote for them because of bad economic policies.

I suppose you didn't. But, in fairness...

CashMoney wrote: »

I normally wouldn't have considered voting for Sinn Fein but their clear and concise stance on the separation of church and state will swing it for me.

The above does read like a nothing about Sinn Fein was of interest to you. You wouldn't have considered them, as there was nothing going for them for you. I think people are used to "I considered such a party because of their _______ policies" and you say you'd never have considered them.

So, it did come across as strange that all of a sudden you've got other reasons to vote. That's good. The more reasons someone has to vote for _______ party of choice, the better. It does completely change the game on your wouldn't have considered them post though. As that looks more like hyperbole now.

Dord

MagicMarker wrote: »

Atheist Ireland posed such questions to all Parties, answers can be found here.

I haven't read all responses but afaik Sinn Fein agree that schooling should be secular.

Thanks for posting that link, it's answered some questions I've had.

meditraitor

Ruairí Quinn, Proinsias De Rossa, Ivana Bacik and Eamon gilmore are agnostic....


And as such is there a possibility that they w wouldn't put up with the current system if they got power, can you imagine any of the bishops trying to strongarm these guys? This is not a party political broadcast but an obvious conclusion!

axer

Sinn Fein seem to have given the clearest answer followed by Labour from what I can see. I would love to vote for either of them for this reason but because they would not be driving social welfare reform/cuts nor massive public sector reform it makes it impossible for me to vote for them. While I am a massive advocate for secularism - I still believe economics are more important.