Election posters...

har1ey

Anyone allready sick of those annoying posters in all fairness we know they are up for election do we actually have to see them one every lamp post wherever we go and also all the crap they throw through the door all I want is for someone to come to my door explain what they have done in the past and what they expect to do in the future and what cuts that they are going to take instead of us :mad:

Barack Obama

Will they ever be banned? Now, unfortunately the people that would make this decision are the same people that are responsible for putting up tens of thousands of these eyesores around the country every five years.

It's not so bad if it were the odd poster here and there, but these people seem to think that the general public are so thick that we can't make up our minds unless we see a picture of their ugly mug on EVERY lamppost on a stretch of road.

At a minimum, I'd like to see -
1. No more plastic cable this used for posters.
2. A minimum distance of (say) 500m between posters
3. No posters within 100m of traffic junctions.

Rant over

Ghost Estate

Ban them altogether. but for now this will have to do

KELTICKNIGHTT

see how long it takes for them too take them down after election

johngalway

I've no problem with posters to be honest, though the fuss made over them does amuse me of a slow evening

kimosabe

Section 71 of the Roads Act 1993 prohibits unauthorised signs on the public roads and empowers road authorities and the Gardaí to remove them. The Act makes it an offence to erect, place or retain an unauthorised sign on a public road.
The Road Authority may prosecute offences under Section 71 of the Roads Act 1993 which has a maximum penalty of £1,000 (€1,270) fine or six months imprisonment, or both. Both the person who erects the unauthorised sign and the person on whose behalf the unauthorised sign has been erected are guilty of an offence and may be prosecuted. In addition, a person who obstructs or impedes the Council in exercising its duties in removing unauthorised signs is also guilty of an offence.
The Act contains requirements on:
1. Removing unauthorised signs;
2. minimum duration of sign storage;
3. notices to be given to owner;
4. procedure for retrieving signs;
5. disposal of uncollected signs; and,
6. recovery of costs by Road Authority.
It is worth noting that Subsection 10 of Section 71 exempts posters or signs erected during elections or referenda from the provisions of Section 71. However, these posters, signs, etc. must be removed within seven days of the poll being taken. After seven days the provisions of Section 71 apply. This is similar to the provisions of the Litter Act.

One would assume that permission MUST be given by the owners of the land.

kimosabe

Delighted to see that the Local Authorities of Clonakilty, Fermoy and Youghal prohibit Election Posters in their areas.

p15574

Posters will come down, plastic ties will blight the landscape for years to come. Should be a rule that the ties identify who put them up, and that they have to be removed too.

two wheels good

p15574 wrote: »

Posters will come down, plastic ties will blight the landscape for years to come. Should be a rule that the ties identify who put them up, and that they have to be removed too.

Good idea. The zip ties are litter too. Many lamp posts will still be festooned with ugly plastic ties when the posters come down.

Barack Obama

kimosabe wrote: »

Delighted to see that the Local Authorities of Clonakilty, Fermoy and Youghal prohibit Election Posters in their areas.

That's great and it's a pity that more locations don't do the same.

SHOVELLER

p15574 wrote: »

Posters will come down, plastic ties will blight the landscape for years to come. Should be a rule that the ties identify who put them up, and that they have to be removed too.

Apparently one idea was to colour code the cable ties to the parties involved but coloured cable ties must be hard to get at short notice.

There are still cable ties hanging from the last election. Not only are they an eyesore but some are at face level.

Also there should be a rule that posters must be hung no lower than 7 foot from the ground as they impede pedestrians and cyclists.

Barack Obama

Serious question - is there a law against taking down election posters?

two wheels good

Barack Obama wrote: »

Serious question - is there a law against taking down election posters?

I have no knowledge of the law but if they are a hazard or an obstruction I suppose you could justify removing them. They are advertisements and private property.

I would argue that if a poster falls down then it is litter and I can "confiscate" it. Then as my property I'm free to alter it as I choose - and re-erect them.

Does that sound convincing ... your honour?

caseyann

SF are quite few and tasteful :cool:

rubadub

two wheels good wrote: »

I would argue that if a poster falls down then it is litter and I can "confiscate" it.

IN dun laoghaire rathdown the vast majority of posters which are still up are classed as litter so I presume you can take them down, I plan on calling into a garda station about it. I have contacted various politicians about this with no reply from most, none defended their actions, FF decided to take my email as a request to sign up to their emails.

This morning on my cycling commute I confronted 2 people putting up FG posters, a woman in her 40's holding it up as a guy in his 60's was putting it up, illlegal on several counts, too low and on lamp poles obstructing views of pedestrians, obstructing views of roadsigns. I asked them if they were aware of the laws and guidelines on putting them up, they both very definitely and sternly said yes, as though I would back down, so asked him what was the first rule and he muttered something about feet from something, I told him it was 2.5m to the lowest corner and he said he would put his up higher (impossible with his small step device). I then saw it was FG and told him I was whipped in the face by a cable tie on the N11 and that they are a f*cking disgrace -which he agreed to, but still illegally put up his.

I was near cabinteely garda station and was thinking I should have rang them. I would like to know the actual laws, but do not want to get into trouble with the law. e.g. could I have rang and said I am witnessing 2 people engaging in illegal dumping and have their car reg (illegally parked on a cycletrack I might add). I expect if I said it was election posters they would laugh it off, but if they came out could they do me, or do they have to respect me for reporting what was techinically an act of littering.

The whip in the face was a lie but I did come very close to it, just dodged it in fact, and it was FG posters, perfectly at eye level and sticking out a good foot from the pole. On the N11 you have to stay close to keep away from gusts from buses, and to keep in to let others take over.

Deirdre deBurcas posters are still on the N11 from 2009, scumbag.

http://www.dlrcoco.ie/Meetings/2009/DDHWWEDCEC/MAR09.htm

Guidelines Relating to the Display of Election Poster:

1. Election posters should only be erected after an election has been declared and a polling date determined.

2. In accordance with the Litter Pollution Act 1997 election posters and ties must be removed within 7 days after polling date. Failure to do so may result in prosecution. The associated fixing arrangement particularly plastic ties must be removed at the same time the poster is being removed.

3. No adhesive or metal fixings are permitted.

4. All posters should be manufactured from cardboard composites or other recyclable materials.

5. The Party or individual responsible for the poster must be clearly indicated on the poster.

6. Posters must not be erected as follows:

a. on lamp standards with overhead line electricity feed,

b. on traffic signal poles,

c. on bridge parapets, overpasses and on pedestrian bridges

d. on roadside traffic barriers

e. on traffic poles or statutory signage of any type including stop, yield, cycletrack, parking control, etc.

f. on Motorways

g. must not obstruct the view of traffic lights or road signs,

h. must not block or obstruct motorists view of pedestrians, i.e. pedestrian barriers, or railings.

7. There should be a minimum clearance of 2.5 metres (8ft) from the lower edge of any poster to ground level and no posters should be placed higher than 6.5 metres (20ft) from the ground.

8. A maximum of two posters per candidate is permitted on any lamp or standard pole.

9. Political parties/independent candidates are reminded that no claims for damages arising from placing, displaying or removal of their posters will lie with the Council and they may consider it appropriate to take out Public Liability Insurance in this regard.

Election posters that do not comply with these conditions or that are erected on Council property prior to the declaration of an election will be removed by the Council. In the event of a breach of the Litter Pollution Act, 1997 prosecutions may be initiated.

After a brief discussion during which John Guckian answered Members queries, the Councillors requested that the Manager examine the possibility of implementing a scheme similar to Dublin City Council’s system whereby posters are removed at a cost to the parties. J. Guckian AGREED to come back to the Members with a report on the feasibility of this scheme in Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown.

There is usually garda present at my polling station so I plan on printing this out and seeing if they will arrest any canvassers putting them up.

PeterIanStaker

Sick of looking at them, and what's more they've taken to putting them higher up so the potential for obscene/funny graffiti is reduced.