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After Hours Technocratic Government

  • 11-02-2011 11:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭


    I was checking Paddy Power for various odds on the general election. There are odds of 40/1 for us to have a technocratic government. I didn't know what this meant, but wikipedia tells me this:
    Technocracy is a form of government in which engineers, scientists, health professionals and other technical experts are in control of decision making in their respective fields. The term technocracy derives from the Greek words tekhne meaning skill and kratos meaning power, as in government, or rule. Thus the term technocracy denotes a system of government where those who have knowledge, expertise or skills compose the governing body. In a technocracy decision makers would be selected based upon how highly knowledgeable they are, rather than how much political capital they hold.

    So basically, a minister can be appointed who is not a politician. I think this is a very interesting concept, but couldn't be bothered trying to have an intelligent conversation about it as I am ignorant of most things political.


    So I put it to the members of After Hours...who would you have in your technocratic government?


    Fr Brendan Comiskey as Minister for Children?
    Jedward as Ministers for Education?
    Eamonn Dunphy as Minister for Sport?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Mary Harney as Minister for Health

    Oh wait....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    O' Leary as minister for transport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    I was checking Paddy Power for various odds on the general election. There are odds of 40/1 for us to have a technocratic government. I didn't know what this meant, but wikipedia tells me this:



    So basically, a minister can be appointed who is not a politician. I think this is a very interesting concept, but couldn't be bothered trying to have an intelligent conversation about it as I am ignorant of most things political.


    So I put it to the members of After Hours...who would you have in your technocratic government?


    Fr Brendan Comiskey as Minister for Children?
    Jedward as Ministers for Education?
    Eamonn Dunphy as Minister for Sport?

    Isn't there enough cronyism in Irish politics already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    Hold on, get people who are qualified in their fields to be ministers of that field!
    What kind of madness are we talking here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    TheZohan wrote: »
    O' Leary as minister for transport.

    Michael O'Leary as minister for everything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Saadyst


    How would you decide who is the most skilled in a field, and, if they are the most skilled for decades - would you have that same person as minister for so long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Jack Kevorkian as Minister for Health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    Sounds like a great idea, if only it could really happen, that or a good old fashioned dictatorship anything other than the inept idiots we currently have to choose from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    There are a lot of credible people in the country that could make a technocratic government work, but Irish people and change don't go well together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Hell, if it's open to everyone, then I'll take the role of Minister for Justice myself. I own several pairs of handcuffs, so I'm more qualified that the existing minister already.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    The Taoiseach can already appoint some Government ministers who have never gone for election in any house of the Oireahtas. Ala Gareth Fitzgerald I believe. Some positions are exempt I beleieve, Finance being one and maybe Justice? Though I don't remember.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Aodan83 wrote: »
    Jack Kevorkian as Minister for Health.

    his free scarfs is deffo a policy i agree with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Screaminmidget


    Jackie Healy rae in charge of Farming Agriculture. :p

    The real question though is would someone with the nessecary qualifications Take the jobs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Christy Brown would have made a great minister of transport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭chillywilly


    darragh16 wrote: »
    Michael O'Leary as minister for everything.

    You mean Taoiseach? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Hmmm, I'm an engineer in work and a tyrant in the bedroom. This could work well for me.

    -Funk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Colmo52


    Seanie Fitz as the Minister For Finance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭chillywilly


    Brian Cowen for Minister of General Mayhem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Colmo52


    Eamonn o cuiv- Minister for ZZZzzzzzZZZzzz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Scooter as Minister of the Fisheries...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    prinz wrote: »
    Scooter as Minister of the Fisheries...
    Sorry to be a pedant, but I'm a huge fan of electronic music so I feel obliged to point this out every time it crops up:

    Techno is not a catch-all term covering all forms of dance music. It's a specific subgenre and if one's not into EDM it's quite likely they've never hard a techno song in their life.

    I guess Scooter would be considered happy hardcore or Eurodance.

    I'm wary of telling people I'm into techno as there's good chance doing so will immediately conjure up images of me getting down to Basshunter and Cascada.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭Amber Lamps


    pamela izevbekhai as minister for immigration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pedant, but I'm a huge fan of electronic music so I feel obliged to point this out every time it crops up:
    Techno is not a catch-all term covering all forms of dance music..

    Well their own site is http//:www.scootertechno.com so I'll leave it at that for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    I doubt people at the top of their fields in science and engineering would want ministerial jobs. If they are that good at what they do they can probably already pick and choose where they work. Plus they would likely make more money staying where they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    prinz wrote: »
    Well their own site is http//:www.scootertechno.com so I'll leave it at that for now.


    Please don't ever put scooter in a techno bracket ,just because his website says "techno" in the title doesn't mean his music is.

    As a former techno DJ myself I must point out that most people that do not listen to electronic music will never have heard a techno track as I have never heard one played on mainstream radio.Adam beyer ,CJ Bolland ,Henrik B etc... all proper techno ,the same way as tiesto is supposed to be trance but he is not ,he's mainstream electronic POP music.Proper trance is not mainstream.


    Sorry for the rant but I do have to point these things out to people every now and again


    Back on topic ,Bono minister for stupid looking shades


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    My musical reference attempt at humour has been ruined by the technovikings :( :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Technocrats also typically happen to be Lobbyists...

    Would you imagine what US Health Care would look like if the Pharmaceutical and Health Insurance Industry Pros were behind it? Oh right..


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