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Cod!

  • 11-02-2011 2:21am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭


    What is it with cod? How come it is the most popular and over fished fish? Although I have only recently got a taste for seafood, I am not a fish enthusiast so I wouldn't tell the difference between many white fish really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Its not got a very fishy taste so many people can eat it, its not oily, its firm, its easy to cook, its not got many bones, it flakes nicely when its cooked, it tastes quite moist after cooking, and the fish itself (themselves?) were until recently incredibly plentiful and can grow to be pretty massive. So it all combines into one brilliant package that made it really popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Plus it was the quarterback in high school, and we all know how popular those kids are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Cod is popular because its bland. Thats why people like it.
    It is still very plentiful, Faeroes and Iceland still land a lot of Cod, and Ireland has a big Cod quota in Norwegian waters.
    Cod isn't my favourite by any means, but if you make it into Bacalao and cook it Basque stylee count me in.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Lornen


    I have to admit with absolutely everyone on the "it's bland" one.

    I am an avid fish loather and the only fish I can stomach is cod.

    I used to go to the gym quite alot and every dinner consisted of a piece of cod with chilli powder and a wedge of lime with some pulses.

    I can't stand salmon or anything really strong tasting.

    Cod is perfect for us fish haters! :P


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Try coley, it's part of the cod family and tastes almost the same. It's actually known as the codfish in some places, pollock in America, and doesn't have nearly the same pressure on it as cod.

    When I was little I never like fish, my mum made me smoked cod for dinner one night and I liked it. After that, she always made me smoked coley, and I never knew the difference till a long time after that I saw the packet on the counter. The only reason coley isn't more popular is because people don't generally recognise the name, and don't realise it's a really good substitute.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Lornen


    Try coley, it's part of the cod family and tastes almost the same. It's actually known as the codfish in some places, pollock in America, and doesn't have nearly the same pressure on it as cod.

    When I was little I never like fish, my mum made me smoked cod for dinner one night and I liked it. After that, she always made me smoked coley, and I never knew the difference till a long time after that I saw the packet on the counter. The only reason coley isn't more popular is because people don't generally recognise the name, and don't realise it's a really good substitute.


    I remember a few years back Birdseye started using Hoki fish as a substitute for Cod in their fish fingers. It was only temporary but I do recall it.
    It tasted slightly different but the texture was the same and it was nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Try coley, it's part of the cod family and tastes almost the same. It's actually known as the codfish in some places, pollock in America, and doesn't have nearly the same pressure on it as cod.

    When I was little I never like fish, my mum made me smoked cod for dinner one night and I liked it. After that, she always made me smoked coley, and I never knew the difference till a long time after that I saw the packet on the counter. The only reason coley isn't more popular is because people don't generally recognise the name, and don't realise it's a really good substitute.

    Judging by recent fishing documentaries on channel four there's no point in getting coley instead of cod since they are both caught by the same fishing trawlers and both end up thrown overboard if they are surplus to the quota.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    The only reason coley isn't more popular is because people don't generally recognise the name, and don't realise it's a really good substitute.
    Some might be eating it without knowing it, from chippers anyways.
    Ecological scientists in Ireland recently used DNA barcoding to identify species of fish labeled as either "cod" or "haddock" in fish and chip shops, fresh fish counters and supermarkets in 10 postal districts in Dublin. They found that 39 out of 156 (25%) randomly sampled "cod" and "haddock" were genetically entirely different species and, therefore, mislabeled under European Union (EU) regulations.

    In addition, as Dana Miller and Stefano Mariani from University College Dublin report in today's Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment (e-View), 28 out of 34 (82.4%) smoked fish samples were incorrectly labeled, and 26 out of 28 (92.9%) samples labeled as "smoked cod" were completely different species.
    Posted a while back about it here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66068010

    I do not like salmon, mackrel or tuna, or any "fishy fish", any white fish are fine by me -just like many beer drinkers like bland beers like bud or heineken etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Try coley, it's part of the cod family and tastes almost the same. It's actually known as the codfish in some places, pollock in America, and doesn't have nearly the same pressure on it as cod.

    When I was little I never like fish, my mum made me smoked cod for dinner one night and I liked it. After that, she always made me smoked coley, and I never knew the difference till a long time after that I saw the packet on the counter. The only reason coley isn't more popular is because people don't generally recognise the name, and don't realise it's a really good substitute.
    Hmm, not so sure on that one. Coley is Black Pollack and is fairly distinctive flavour and colour wise Coley is short for Coalfish , a much closer alternative is White Pollack which is very close to Cod.
    The usual place you find Coley is those big dyed orange smoked fillets.
    I haven't seen it sold fresh very often if ever.
    Lots of fish places sell White Pollack fillets now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭BroomBurner


    Whiting and seabass are also quite bland white fish, but without the chunkiness (which I find to be a bit dry and cloying) of cod. I'm not sure on their sustainability tough.

    Not surprised on the mislabelling. They're probably aware that it's not cod or haddock, but fearful that customers won't order 'pollock and chips'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Mr.Boots


    I wouldnt call Cod bland.
    Its gorgeous with a little butter and lemon and alow its light delicate flavour to come out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Whiting and seabass are also quite bland white fish, but without the chunkiness (which I find to be a bit dry and cloying) of cod. I'm not sure on their sustainability tough.

    Not surprised on the mislabelling. They're probably aware that it's not cod or haddock, but fearful that customers won't order 'pollock and chips'.
    All the bass you buy here is farmed which probably explains the bland flavour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    Cod seems to be getting a bit of a battering here....:pac:

    It's actually quite versatile & suits people who don't like/normally eat fish.

    I reckon if people know a couple of good recipes for cod it's can be a good 'gateway' fish to get people into the joys of sea food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭smiles302


    Do you have any nice recipes for Cod? I've always found it meh. Although in my house at home it's only ever served battered. I cannot stand batter. So I just pick out the fish...

    It never seemed to taste like anything. I've never attempted to cook it since leaving home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Slightly off topics but has anyone ever had cod liver in oil. I got a tin of this the other daya in a polish store and thought it was cod in a tin but when I done a translation check from Polish to english its cod liver in oil. Any recipes out thier as to the best way to eat it.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Anyone reccomend any non battered fish. I tried cod wasn't too fond of it. Also tried Basa fillets from Aldi's but didnt like it. I love Mackrel but only around in the summer.


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You could try kippers. They're smoked herring I think. You can fry or grill them, but I've seen them done heated in water too. I'm mad for smoky stuff though, depends on your taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    You could try kippers. They're smoked herring I think. You can fry or grill them, but I've seen them done heated in water too. I'm mad for smoky stuff though, depends on your taste.

    Ye i tried smoked haddock, it wasn't bad. I like the battered cod, but im trying to eat healthy. So im going to start trying different types of fish i will try kippers, wont know until i try different things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    Ye i tried smoked haddock, it wasn't bad. I like the battered cod, but im trying to eat healthy. So im going to start trying different types of fish i will try kippers, wont know until i try different things.

    What about smoked cod (without batter)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    What about smoked cod (without batter)?

    I was actually looking at that today only 100 cals in a big bit. Looks nice but seems full of salt. Trying to eat healthier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭SmartFox


    Fantastic Easy Cod Recipe I'm addicted to:

    In a roasting tin add a couple of large cod loins (skinless and boneless), 500g of cherry tomatoes halved, 200g of nice olives halved (not the jar ones :rolleyes:), sprinkling of pine nuts, generous drizzle of extra virgin olive oil, plenty of freshly ground salt/pepper.

    Bung in a preheated oven at 180 deg (fan) for 20mins, once it's out sprinkle on some freshly chopped basil, and it's ready to be served. Goes fantastic with tortellini (spinach and ricotta) mixed with Sacla red pesto.


    Yum...firm favourite in our house. the kids love it too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭gabria


    I like cod and other fish including fishy fish But lately have been cooking less and less as I have three flatmates who are getting a little ticked off with the fishy stench I leave in my wake Any tips apart from open Windows and get febreze wrap the fish tightly in foil and take it right outside for dumping? All these measures don't work for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    I love cod but try not to eat it because of the depleted fish stocks. I noticed that Greenpeace are running an ad campaign to disuade people from eating tuna at the moment, so out of curiosity I googled the list.

    These are the twenty two "red" species:

    "Alaska Pollock
    Atlantic Cod or Scrod
    Atlantic Halibut (US and Canadian)
    Atlantic Salmon (wild and farmed)
    Atlantic Sea Scallop
    Bluefin tuna
    Big Eye Tuna
    Chilean Sea Bass (also sold as Patagonia Toothfish)
    Greenland Halibut (also sold as Black halibut, Atlantic turbot or Arrowhead flounder)
    Grouper (imported to the U.S.)
    Hoki (also known as Blue Grenadier)
    Monkfish
    Ocean Quahog
    Orange Roughy
    Red Snapper
    Redfish (also sold as Ocean Perch)
    Sharks
    Skates and Rays
    South Atlantic Albacore Tuna
    Swordfish
    Tropical Shrimp (wild and farmed)
    Yellowfin Tuna"

    Sadly, poor Hoki is no longer the sustainable alternative to Cod. Which is a pity, because it was tasty (yet strangely translucent even when cooked.)

    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/greenpeace-endangered-fish.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    More curious googling and apparently Pacific Cod is fine to eat. But I have no idea whether this would taste differently to Atlantic Cod?

    Also on the second list I disocvered Yelelow Fin Tuna has well managed fish stocks so is ok to eat. :confused: I hate lists, they are quite confusing.

    http://enature.com/articles/detail.asp?storyID=509


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    diddlybit wrote: »
    I love cod but try not to eat it because of the depleted fish stocks. I noticed that Greenpeace are running an ad campaign to disuade people from eating tuna at the moment, so out of curiosity I googled the list.
    Those lists are a bit of a gimmick. You aren't supposed to eat anything not certified by the Marine stewardship council. (MSC).
    Its all very pro big business and biased against small vessels.
    Greenpeace is a huge campany now and has to play ball with the big corporates and help them greenwash stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭wal100


    I prefer Cod Roes :) then actual Cod ,they have more taste Imo.


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