Enda and the personality factor

FF and proud

Is it just me or this that Enda fella a bit wooden and lacking personality at all? Sure isnt that one of the most important factors in voting in a politician? Hes an awful awful speaker as well, sure Fine Gael will probably only be in for 2 years like usual. Isnt it time the Fine gaelers got somebody with a bit more personality and that kind of thing?

Liam Byrne

FF and proud wrote: »

Is it just me or this that Enda fella a bit wooden and lacking personality at all? Sure isnt that one of the most important factors in voting in a politician? Hes an awful awful speaker as well, sure Fine Gael will probably only be in for 2 years like usual. Isnt it time the Fine gaelers got somebody with a bit more personality and that kind of thing?

We've seen where "non-wooden" personalities got us. It's not a likeability contest - it's about who can do the job, something the last supposedly likeable Taoiseach couldn't.

And as for some b-be-being an awful speaker, well suicide comments are pretty awful if you ask me.

So personally I'd give the job to Pinnochio; woodenness wouldn't be an issue and you'd know when he was lying without the need for expensive and inexplicably still-not-reported tribunals.

If I want someone to have a drink wjth, I'll find someone likeable; if I want someone to run a country, I'll find someone honest and competent.

Simple logic, really.

The Raven.

LOL. Good post, Liam!

I saw a torch today in Aldi. It wasn't run on batteries. It was powered by a winder on the side and was called a 'wind up torch'. It reminded me of posts like the OP. The FFers have nothing better to do these days.

runman

Hes there to deligate and get those around him to work within the cabinet... he lacks the debating skills and the likeability factor but that shouldnt stop him being a competent taoiseach.. im optimistic but time will tell.

femur61

At first I really didn't like him, but he has a brilliant team behind him. Not just a bunch of teachers, I know he is and Noonan, I think he will deligate people to the appropiate departments according to their qualifications.

maynooth_rules

Sure isnt that one of the most important factors in voting in a politician?

What complete nonsense. No it is not important at all. This isn't a bloody Pop show. Our leader doesn't need charisma or a certain kind of personality. Once he has integrity, honesty and is good at his job, then that should make him perfect for the job. Bertie had charisma, but had absolutely no honesty, integrity and was certainly not up to the job. Look at where the idea of voting for personalities has got us over the past 13 years.

Tragedy

maynooth_rules wrote: »

What complete nonsense. No it is not important at all. This isn't a bloody Pop show. Our leader doesn't need charisma or a certain kind of personality. Once he has integrity, honesty and is good at his job, then that should make him perfect for the job. Bertie had charisma, but had absolutely no honesty, integrity and was certainly not up to the job. Look at where the idea of voting for personalities has got us over the past 13 years.

Having charisma is part of a leaders job. Having a strong personality that people can engage with is part of a leaders job.

Claiming that the leader of the country, the figurehead, the person everyone from CEO down looks to as to what direction Ireland is heading in, and how well it's doing doesn't need charisma, a personality that people believe in or the ability to convince people is ridiculous.

When it comes down to it, it IS a personality contest. We need intelligent ministers who can do the best job led by a person who can convince everyone else that these ministers are doing the best job, that we will get through this, that we are moving forward and that there is hope.

So don't try sell us the line that it isn't about personality :rolleyes:
It's about personality with substance.
Kenny may(MAY) have the substance(though I personally don't think) so, but he doesn't have the personality.
Martin may(MAY) have the personality, but he doesn't have the substance.
Gilmore has the personality, but he's the most lacking in substance.

enda1

I fear Kenny going into a room to fight for our taxation sovereignty with Sarkozy and Merkel. He'll be eaten alive. The man has no presence, no character and thus commands no respect.

loldog

Enda will do just fine. Stop worrying. He's a vast improvement on the previous incumbent. A major upgrade!

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loldog

enda1 wrote: »

I fear Kenny going into a room to fight for our taxation sovereignty with Sarkozy and Merkel. He'll be eaten alive. The man has no presence, no character and thus commands no respect.

Like Cowen and Lenihan did?

Enda's already publicly told the EU to "back off" in regard to our corporate tax... I've never heard anything but obsequiousness and subservience from FF.

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ednwireland

op has watched too much x-factor obviously

enda1

Like Cowen and Lenihan did?

Times

There were sharp exchanges on the issue at an EU summit in Brussels yesterday between Taoiseach Brian Cowen and French president Nicolas Sarkozy, long a critic of Ireland’s 12.5 per cent corporate tax rate.

In the course of a lunch discussion of measures first proposed by German chancellor Angela Merkel, the strained atmosphere between leaders was described as a “bloodbath at times” by a European diplomat.

Here is an example of Cowen fighting them to keep our tax advantage.

Enda's already publicly told the EU to "back off" in regard to our corporate tax... I've never heard anything but obsequiousness and subservience from FF.

Kenny's words as an opposition member mean nothing in relation to EU matters. What matters is whether or not he will act on his words when he gets into office, whether he can stand up to the powerful bigger Euro countries. We'll see but I am not holding my breath.

jimmycrackcorm

There are two factors to consider when it comes to Enda's personality. 1) Labour are gaining because of Gilmores personality even if there is a lack of substance behind it. 2) more than ever , people are looking for a sense of hope and direction, something new, to have someone lead with confidence; Enda does not come across as that.

I've no doubt that had Bruton succeeded in his leadership challenge then FG would be in the frame for a single governing party.

You only have to look at Martins performance in the first debate and ask why people rated him higher than Gilmore despite Gilmore having the advantage.

InReality

for some reason all FG leaders are unpopular before becoming taoiseach.
I don't know why , but I think in this election kenny's media personality is a very low priority.

deanh

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

There are two factors to consider when it comes to Enda's personality. 1) Labour are gaining because of Gilmores personality even if there is a lack of substance behind it. 2) more than ever , people are looking for a sense of hope and direction, something new, to have someone lead with confidence; Enda does not come across as that.

I've no doubt that had Bruton succeeded in his leadership challenge then FG would be in the frame for a single governing party.

You only have to look at Martins performance in the first debate and ask why people rated him higher than Gilmore despite Gilmore having the advantage.

only problem with your observation is that 1) Labour are trending downwards according to the latest poll. People are not buying the 'Gilmore for Taoiseach' campaign and he knows it. 2) F.G. are up 3 to 38%, their highest poll rating ever. I've no doubt that if Bruton succeeded to the leadership, the same posters would be on here criticising him for a whole range of perceived flaws. He is very small after all. Surley he would be eaten alive by Merkel et. al.?

feicim

Is it just me or are FF candidates lacking in intelligence, capability, morals, credibility and commonsense?

PS: Almost forgot this one... votes.