Produce license and insurance within 10 days

Bigcheeze

When a Garda says that to you, do they actually have a method of tracking that you do it or do they just assume you'll be suitably worried to comply with the instruction?

Raskolnikov

Bigcheeze wrote: »

When a Garda says that to you, do they actually have a method of tracking that you do it or do they just assume you'll be suitably worried to comply with the instruction?

Yep.

MagicMarker

No, they just have an unusual amount of faith in the integrity of their fellow man.

I wouldn't worry about it.

challengemaster

Make sure you request some form of receipt from a garda at the station as proof, they can be notorious for not making a note of things...

Raskolnikov

MagicMarker wrote: »

No, they just have an unusual amount of faith in the integrity of their fellow man.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Nonsense.

Do a search on boards/Google and you will see lots of evidence of people being summoned to court over a failure to produce licence/insurance details to their local Garda station.

challengemaster

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Nonsense.

Do a search on boards/Google and you will see lots of evidence of people being summoned to court over a failure to produce licence/insurance details to their local Garda station.

I think your sarcasm detector is broken dude

Raskolnikov

It's been a long day

Bigcheeze

challengemaster wrote: »

Make sure you request some form of receipt from a garda at the station as proof, they can be notorious for not making a note of things...

They made a note in their paper pad at the time and even gave me the choice of station to attend which made it sound like there was a system.

zt-OctaviaN

Hi bigcheeze

I was caught on my mobile phone about 4 months ago and had lost my license before that which i explained to the garda at the time.
To cut a long story short i recieved a summons not long after the 10 or 12 days because i didnt bring the license in. All was ok in the end because i was able to prove to the mobile phone offense issuing garda i had attempted to get
The lucense re issued on two occassions, i didnt have to go to court but yes it seems the system will auromaticaally issue a summons if you dont presebt the license to your local station.
Excuse spelling im typing on a phone

Bigcheeze

zt-OctaviaN wrote: »

Hi bigcheeze

I was caught on my mobile phone about 4 months ago and had lost my license before that which i explained to the garda at the time.
To cut a long story short i recieved a summons not long after the 10 or 12 days because i didnt bring the license in. All was ok in the end because i was able to prove to the mobile phone offense issuing garda i had attempted to get
The lucense re issued on two occassions, i didnt have to go to court but yes it seems the system will auromaticaally issue a summons if you dont presebt the license to your local station.
Excuse spelling im typing on a phone

Cheers. Was summons for the mobile offence or for not having license in the car or for not producing license after 10 days ?

Antiquo

Garda tells you to produce at station of your choice and you don't produce you will be getting some official paperwork through your (or the address you gave at the time) letterbox inviting you for tea and biskwits with Mr Judge

Bigcheeze

Antiquo wrote: »

Garda tells you to produce at station of your choice and you don't produce you will be getting some official paperwork through your (or the address you gave at the time) letterbox inviting you for tea and biskwits with Mr Judge

So not producing the documents is an offence in itself regardless of why you were asked to produce the documents ?

Kristopherus

Bigcheeze wrote: »

So not producing the documents is an offence in itself regardless of why you were asked to produce the documents ?

Where did you get that idea? If you are not asked, what reason would you have to go to the cop shop?

Antiquo

Bigcheeze wrote: »

So not producing the documents is an offence in itself regardless of why you were asked to produce the documents ?

First off you should have your licence on you and be able to produce when requested surprised they let you away with that if you have comitted an offence or was it just a check point or routine traffic stop?

Second - failure to produce insurance/proof of policy as requested is gonna get Garda back up and will issue summons purely on that basis.

Also if the original stop was for some minor offence may bump that up a notch or two as well for wasting his/her time and not bothering yer arse to produce as requested.

Bottom line bigcheeze is they will check as its part of the job. When they find no doc produced at that station go to step 2 and so on.

Bigcheeze

Kristopherus wrote: »

Where did you get that idea? If you are not asked, what reason would you have to go to the cop shop?

If I was asked to do so for a civil case (alleged damage to other car in a car park) not a road traffic offence. In this situation am I committing an offence by not complying with the request.

Bigcheeze

Antiquo wrote: »

First off you should have your licence on you and be able to produce when requested surprised they let you away with that if you have comitted an offence or was it just a check point or routine traffic stop?

The request was made at my home not in the vehicle.

Anyway sounds like I should comply.

Antiquo

Ahh now its clear as mud should've said at the start

Whatever the circumstance a Garda has requested that you produce so just comply they will follow through if you don't.

So what did you do to the other car? I won't tell anyone.... honest :D:D

Keith186

It doesn't matter what the reason was you were asked for your details. You must produce them.

If you were not in a vehicle or there is no evidence of you using a vehicle in a public place then they don't have a valid reason for you to produce same IMO.

Obviously you were driving in a public place if you have a car and said you 'hypothetically' in a crash.

I wouldn't go down that road, excuse the pun!

Senna

I was asked to produce licence and insurance many moon ago and i did within the ten days. A month or two later the same guard stopped me at a check point and asked did i go to the station and produce them last time. I always assumed it was more of a manual system and they go through their notes every few weeks and check the system. If they see someone hasn't produced, then they send the summons.

opti76

Keith186 wrote: »

It doesn't matter what the reason was you were asked for your details. You must produce them.

If you were not in a vehicle or there is no evidence of you using a vehicle in a public place then they don't have a valid reason for you to produce same IMO.

Obviously you were driving in a public place if you have a car and said you 'hypothetically' in a crash.

I wouldn't go down that road, excuse the pun!

if you hypothetically went down the road of oh no garda i wasnt using it at that time the under s107 of the road traffic act there is an obligation on you to state who was using it .... but you wouldnt do that. produce the licence and ins etc and you'l be fine.. but as stated earlier obtain a receipt of production.

slimjimmc

Bigcheeze wrote: »

If I was asked to do so for a civil case (alleged damage to other car in a car park) not a road traffic offence. In this situation am I committing an offence by not complying with the request.

If the car park is accessible to the public (even if it has a barrier) then is it a public place and the Road Traffic Act applies. If you collided with another car it could well be a traffic offence and the Garda would be fully within his rights to demand you produce your licence & insurance and you would indeed be committing an offence by not complying.

Del2005

Senna wrote: »

I was asked to produce licence and insurance many moon ago and i did within the ten days. A month or two later the same guard stopped me at a check point and asked did i go to the station and produce them last time. I always assumed it was more of a manual system and they go through their notes every few weeks and check the system. If they see someone hasn't produced, then they send the summons.

It used to be manual before but AFAIK it's all done via PULSE now.

The Garda pulls you over, requests you produce documents at a station and enters you're details onto their PULSE terminal (or whatever they have in a squad car). PULSE then checks to see if matching documents have been submitted within 10 days and if not then a summons is automatically issued.

cpoh1

Be very careful to get a receipt when producing. I produced last year a couple of days after the request and ended up with a summons through the letterbox anyway. It got thrown out in court but could still have cost me a day off work to attend if i didnt have someone to go in my place.

Goldenegg

Quick question. If you were stopped and the guard asked for your licence and insurance, would that be just your insurance disk or your insurance certificate?

I haven't Been stopped, it's just out of curiosity and I also cannot find my certificate!

coylemj

Folks, there is a big book in every Garda station for the purposes of recording the production of licence and/or insurance. About two weeks or so after the data you were stopped the Garda who stopped you will ring the station where you said you would produce, he will ask his (or her) colleague to check the book starting with the date you were stopped and he'll usually ask his colleague to check for about 14 days forward. If there's no record of you producing then he will issue summons for not being insured or licensed and failing to produce as appropriate.

I don't know if they've put this up on PULSE yet, knowing how Accenture work they will probably take 10 years and charge 10 million to computerise this aspect of the Garda workload.

Zubeneschamali

Goldenegg wrote: »

Quick question. If you were stopped and the guard asked for your licence and insurance, would that be just your insurance disk or your insurance certificate?

Certificate. A disc just shows that someone has insurance on the car, not that you are insured to drive it.

If you can't find your cert, get your insurance co. to issue a new one now, so that you don't have a 10-day deadline hanging over you when you need it.

I carry my license on me, and keep the cert in the car, just in case.

keithclancy

If you dont produce you get the standard summons's

No License
No Insurance
Failure to produce license
Failure to produce insurance.

They go off what was written in "the book" so get a receipt otherwise you have no proof that you actually produced.

opti76

coylemj wrote: »

Folks, there is a big book in every Garda station for the purposes of recording the production of licence and/or insurance. About two weeks or so after the data you were stopped the Garda who stopped you will ring the station where you said you would produce, he will ask his (or her) colleague to check the book starting with the date you were stopped and he'll usually ask his colleague to check for about 14 days forward. If there's no record of you producing then he will issue summons for not being insured or licensed and failing to produce as appropriate.

I don't know if they've put this up on PULSE yet, knowing how Accenture work they will probably take 10 years and charge 10 million to computerise this aspect of the Garda workload.

the production book is long gone ... its all recorded on pulse now.. a receipt can be printed easily.