HMS Bulwark to visit Dublin in March

seanmacc

Politics aside, the HMS Bulwark is coming to Dublin at the end of March.



We've already had a few visits by Lizzie Windsors navy over the past few years but nothing of this size.

Between the 16th and 18th of March we are going to be visited by 6 German and French naval vessels of various sizes.

Is Europe trying to tell us something with such a show of naval strength in Dublin?

murrayp4

Gun-Boat diplomacy?

Dogwatch

Probablly the STANAVFORLANT squadron paying a courtesy call. It just happens to be Paddys day.

How about military bands(Royal Marines) participating in the Parade

seanmacc

Dogwatch wrote: »

Probablly the STANAVFORLANT squadron paying a courtesy call. It just happens to be Paddys day.

How about military bands(Royal Marines) participating in the Parade

From the Dublin Port Expected list it has the Germans coming in the 15th and leaving the 18th and the French arriving the 18th and leaving the 20th. The Brits are going to be in around the 30th. These dates and ETA's may change over the next couple of weeks but not by much.

xflyer

It may be more related to the fact that Dublin has a reputation of being a good place for hard drinking sailors to visit.

Wasn't there another RN ship visit where the Captain was Irish and a rugby fan and the visit coincided with a rugby international?

French and German visits were always regular. I even remember a U boat.

punchdrunk

HMS Ocean was in a couple of years back too

kevinhalvey

that should put the le ciara to shame

but in all fairness are ships names aren`t the most threatining
i know there used for fishing patrols but they could give them a scarier or more intimidating noise

eg le niamh vs hms invincible

which names would you rather sail away from !

goldie fish

kevinhalvey wrote: »

that should put the le ciara to shame

but in all fairness are ships names aren`t the most threatining
i know there used for fishing patrols but they could give them a scarier or more intimidating noise

eg le niamh vs hms invincible

which names would you rather sail away from !

I know a few Niamhs that have been right evil vindictive bitches.
Don't get me started on Orlas.
An Aisling ruined my life...

And a bulwark is just a small steel wall on a ship.. not very threatening.

neris

there was a dutch submarine about 8 or 9 years ago on a visit. we were out sailing in dublin bay at the time and all you could see was the tower moving in the water. Theres always french navy boats down the quays aswell

johngalway

neris wrote: »

there was a dutch submarine about 8 or 9 years ago on a visit. we were out sailing in dublin bay at the time and all you could see was the tower moving in the water. Theres always french navy boats down the quays aswell

Was that submarine in Cork on the same visit? Saw a Dutch submarine moored there at some stage, would have been early last decade (how's that for precise).

source

kevinhalvey wrote: »

that should put the le ciara to shame

but in all fairness are ships names aren`t the most threatining
i know there used for fishing patrols but they could give them a scarier or more intimidating noise

eg le niamh vs hms invincible

which names would you rather sail away from !

To be honest, I love the way our ships are named:

LÉ Emer (P21) is named after Emer the principal wife of Cúchulainn and the daughter of a chieftain from Rush, County Dublin.

LÉ[1] Aoife (P22) is named after Aoife, stepmother to the children of Lir, whom she turned into swans.

LÉ Aisling (P23) is named Aisling to commemorate the centenary of the birth of Patrick Pearse.

LÉ Eithne (P31) is named after Eithne, a tragic heroine and the daughter of the one-eyed Fomorian King, Balor in an early Irish romantic tale.

LÉ Orla (P41) is named after Orla, a grand niece (great niece) of Brian Boru. She was murdered by her husband around 1090. [3] The crest shows the arms of Clare on the top segment and a sword and royal collar on the base.

LÉ Ciara takes her name from a Tipperary saint born around the year 611 who, after taking religious vows in her teens, founded a convent in Kilkeary, near Nenagh.

LÉ Róisín (P51) is named after Róisín Dubh, probably one of the daughters of Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone in the late 16th Century.

LÉ Niamh (P52) is named after Niamh, queen of Tír na nÓg, from Irish mythology.

They all have names of Historical or Mythical Irish women, which I think is way better than a random "hard" sounding word.

Rawhead

Good post

kevinhalvey

agreed there good names for irish ships but still not the sort of name that puts fear into the oppisition which in our case is illegal fishermen so le aisling etc is suitable

BuckJamesRogers

No doubt the usual Eirigi shower will turn up...

Jim236

And they're perfectly entitled to.

RMD

Jim236 wrote: »

And they're perfectly entitled to.

Nobody ever said they weren't, but they're wasting their own time.

Fratton Fred

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xflyer wrote: »

It may be more related to the fact that Dublin has a reputation of being a good place for hard drinking sailors to visit.

Wasn't there another RN ship visit where the Captain was Irish and a rugby fan and the visit coincided with a rugby international?

French and German visits were always regular. I even remember a U boat.

HMS Daring was in port last year when the the Ireland v Scotland game was on. I believe the captain is a rugby man from Belfast and one of the lieutenants a rugby man from Edinburgh.

Purely coincidental of course.

Jim from Cork

There was a HM minesweeper in Cork last week.
I did not see any protesters as I passed but the Garda on duty on the quay opposite looked well bored!

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kevinhalvey wrote: »

agreed there good names for irish ships but still not the sort of name that puts fear into the oppisition which in our case is illegal fishermen so le aisling etc is suitable

That's all well and good but to hear the name Ronald Reagan, Gerald R Ford, John F Kennedy, Arleigh Burke, John Paul Jones, Paul Hamilton over a radio wouldn't put fear into me either, the first 3 are nuclear aircraft carriers and the last 3 are destroyers in the US Navy. It's not the name that puts fear into the enemy, it's reputation and the fact that the ship is heavily armed that takes care of the fear factor.

To stay on topic, will she be open to the public or under lock and key? I really hope there isn't a protest It ruins access to these great ships for everyone who has an actual interest.

Tabnabs

foinse wrote: »

That's all well and good but to hear the name Ronald Reagan, Gerald R Ford, John F Kennedy, Arleigh Burke, John Paul Jones, Paul Hamilton over a radio wouldn't put fear into me either, the first 3 are nuclear aircraft carriers and the last 3 are destroyers in the US Navy. It's not the name that puts fear into the enemy, it's reputation and the fact that the ship is heavily armed that takes care of the fear factor.

*cough* no they're not *cough*

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Tabnabs wrote: »

*cough* no they're not *cough*

Okay I stand corrected JFK was the last of the conventionally powered carriers, the point still stands though, you don't have to have a scary name to have a scary ship.

Jim236

RMD wrote: »

Nobody ever said they weren't

Well condescending and smug replies like the one posted by BuckJamesRogers implied otherwise.

RMD wrote: »

but they're wasting their own time.

Protests are as much about making your voice heard as they are about trying to get an end result. Everyone has the right to protest, and whether or not you agree with what Éirígí are protesting about is irrelevant, they're as much entitled to be there expressing their views, just as you or anyone else here is entitled to go out and observe the Bulwark.

RMD

Jim236 wrote: »

Protests are as much about making your voice heard as they are about trying to get an end result. Everyone has the right to protest, and whether or not you agree with what Éirígí are protesting about is irrelevant, they're as much entitled to be there expressing their views, just as you or anyone else here is entitled to go out and observe the Bulwark.

Once again I quote myself "Nobody ever said they weren't." I wouldn't consider Buckjames post smug or condescending, it's clear he doesn't like them but it's not in anyway smug or condescending and it never once implied they weren't allowed protest. There's a difference between not agreeing with something and not allowing something.

stoneill

foinse wrote: »

LÉ Róisín (P51) is named after Róisín Dubh, probably one of the daughters of Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone in the late 16th Century.

That's great - I took this pic a while back and didn't know which one it was.

creative100

Did this arrive?

seanmacc

creative100 wrote: »

Did this arrive?

The visit by HMS Bulwark originally intended for the 19th of March has been put off until the 30th of March for reasons I think may be obvious.

With the escalation of military activity in the Med it may yet be put off again.

ex_infantry man

stoneill wrote: »

That's great - I took this pic a while back and didn't know which one it was.

L.E. Roisin pic obviously taken in galway???

Steyr

Confirmed for Dublin Port: HMS Bulwark ( L15 )-30/03/11

Steyr

ex_infantry man wrote: »

L.E. Roisin pic obviously taken in galway???

Yes that is Galway, my Dad took one from pretty much the same spot:

http://www.galwayships.com/naval_ships/irish_naval_ship_le_roisin_010907.html

Steyr

Of Note, another Vessel due to Dublin soon is:

02 Apr 2011 HNLMS Van Kinsbergen A 902

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4771111214_08609fd57e.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/photojonicuk/4770457661/&usg=__CpO-W1QbCafkTpXdi5q6MEM1glI=&h=362&w=500&sz=74&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=V1KN4gN-M5vrVM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=225&ei=A_aRTYbFLoLOhAfZ0cGMDw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHNLMS%2BVan%2BKinsbergen%2BA%2B902%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26biw%3D1003%26bih%3D565%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=713&vpy=72&dur=131&hovh=191&hovw=264&tx=218&ty=134&oei=A_aRTYbFLoLOhAfZ0cGMDw&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

seanmacc

Steyr wrote: »

Of Note, another Vessel due to Dublin soon is:

02 Apr 2011 HNLMS Van Kinsbergen A 902

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4771111214_08609fd57e.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/photojonicuk/4770457661/&usg=__CpO-W1QbCafkTpXdi5q6MEM1glI=&h=362&w=500&sz=74&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=V1KN4gN-M5vrVM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=225&ei=A_aRTYbFLoLOhAfZ0cGMDw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHNLMS%2BVan%2BKinsbergen%2BA%2B902%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26biw%3D1003%26bih%3D565%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=713&vpy=72&dur=131&hovh=191&hovw=264&tx=218&ty=134&oei=A_aRTYbFLoLOhAfZ0cGMDw&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

We could do with one of those to stick it to those Spanish Fisherman.

goldie fish

seanmacc wrote: »

We could do with one of those to stick it to those Spanish Fisherman.

A survey ship?

seanmacc

goldie fish wrote: »

A survey ship?

Was thinking more of

HNLMS De Ruyter. That was the photo that showed up when I clicked the link originally.
The Dutch are really breaking their heart sending that tug boat into us