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Does your candidate support the National Cycle Policy Framework?

  • 09-02-2011 10:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭


    Saw this over on the Dublin Cycling Campaign website:

    http://dublincycling.com/ge11
    Find out more about the National Cycle Policy Framework and why it's important to support candidates endorsing the policy

    Anyone know where the parties stand on it? I know Fine Gael never endorsed it, but I think most other parties did. I imagine support for it from any coalition partners would be quite soft if Fine Gael decided to throw it all out.

    I fear the worst, really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭ashleey


    Have you checked with jc trichet? Why chat with the monkeys when it's the organ grinder you want?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭ten speed racer


    Labour support the National Cycle Policy Framework.
    “I therefore greatly welcome the core objectives in the National Cycling Plan many of which are longstanding Labour policies including the insertion of cycle and pedestrian provisions into local and national planning and development procedures; making urban road design more cycle friendly; developing rural cycle networks and Irish cycle tourism; and increasing cycle safety and education especially for school children and motorists.

    I don't think you should be so pessimistic. I'd be hopeful that it would be implemented--I don't think FG would feel strongly enough about it to make abandoning it a condition of any coalition negotiations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I've a very negative outlook generally. It's a blessing, and a curse, as Monk used to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    http://www.cyclist.ie/2011/02/survey-of-general-election-2011-candidates/

    Some responses from the candidates to a survey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭ten speed racer


    Just to update on this, a commitment to the National Cycle Policy Framework is included in the new Programme for Government.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Bunnyhopper


    "We will continue to invest in the National Cycle Policy and we will look to extend the Dublin Bikes Scheme across the wider Dublin area and to other cities and integrate the scheme much more effectively with public transport links."

    From the Labour website:

    http://www.labour.ie/download/pdf/programme_for_national_government.pdf

    or the same document in FG flavour (for the sake of balance :D )

    http://www.finegael.ie/upload/ProgrammeforGovernmentFinal.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Undercover Elephant


    Umm, what does the Dublin Bike Scheme have to do with central government?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Umm, what does the Dublin Bike Scheme have to do with central government?

    They are going to fund expanding it. Advertising will take a back roll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    [...] we will look to extend the Dublin Bikes Scheme across the wider Dublin area and to other cities and integrate the scheme much more effectively with public transport links.

    I certainly hope they do. Strikes me as a very effective way to increase use of both the bike scheme and public transport.

    Also, without wishing to turn this into another helmet thread, the more successful the bike scheme is, the less chance Headway have of successfully pushing through an all-ages helmet law. Then they can get back to their real job, instead of obsessing about cyclists all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Undercover Elephant


    monument wrote: »
    They are going to fund expanding [the Dublin Bike Scheme]. Advertising will take a back roll.
    Have they actually said that? It does not appear to be in the programme for govt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ciotog


    Have they actually said that? It does not appear to be in the programme for govt.
    Page 62:
    "We will continue to invest in the National Cycle Policy and we will look to extend the Dublin
    Bikes Scheme across the wider Dublin area and to other cities and integrate the scheme much
    more effectively with public transport links."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Doctor Bob


    Have they actually said that? It does not appear to be in the programme for govt.

    I believe the NTA will be responsible for the expansion. (That's the NTA- the quango that certain cycle campaigners want abolished.)
    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I certainly hope they do. Strikes me as a very effective way to increase use of both the bike scheme and public transport.

    I hope so too, but I worry that expanding Dublin Bikes will take precedence over catering for cycling in general. I'd be happy if it happens as well as improving conditions for cycling on the ground (better infrastructure, traffic calming, better road surfaces in general) rather than instead of the latter. Putting more public bikes on public streets that are in shreds is not a recipe for success.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Undercover Elephant


    @ciotog / Doctor Bob - That's not the same as saying they (we) will fund it, though. I'm not being picky, but in these times it's a reasonable working assumption that if they don't commit funding, it won't be funded. (And if they do then it will be up to the ECB.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ciotog


    @ciotog / Doctor Bob - That's not the same as saying they (we) will fund it, though. I'm not being picky, but in these times it's a reasonable working assumption that if they don't commit funding, it won't be funded. (And if they do then it will be up to the ECB.)
    I understood from previous press coverage that they would seek to fund it from a combination of private and public funding. So there's scope there still for it to happen - fingers crossed.


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