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Warrant Direct now in Ireland for everyone

  • 09-02-2011 1:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭


    Hi all

    I have been looking for an after sales warranty here in Ireland for years.

    I just got a quote off warranty direct who have just started selling warrantys here for second hand cars. anybody can buy one off them at any stage.

    They quoted me £325 sterling for a fully comprehensive policy for my 05 saab. Attached is the policy document. (also got confirmed by email that cover is now available in Ireland)

    I know that is a lot of money, but that will cover most car parts even wear and tear items warrantys normally wouldnt cover. Is it too much though?

    Kind of thinking that if the turbo went it would be about 1200, gearbox 2k etc. You could be unlucky if you dont have a warranty - or conversely if I buy this warranty I may not need to use it

    What are your views?

    To buy or not to buy.....

    www.warrantydirect.co.uk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    If you want to do both vehicles I can offer £325 on each car –

    If you sell the vehicle you can transfer the warranty to the new owner or if not claims have been made you can get a pro rata refund subject to a £50 cancellation fee.

    I can confirm I would include emissions and airbags free of charge.

    I can also confirm the policy will include cover in the republic of Ireland.

    Maximum term we do is 12 months – for the fact that we would not want to tie you in for a long term contract if you do not have the car.

    Key points on our warranty include:

    · FSA regulated
    · Wear and tear cover (we do not exclude worn items)
    · Consequential loss cover
    · Points found at MOT and Service
    · Diagnostic costs
    · No overheating exclusion.
    · Claims limit to the value of the vehicle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭ashleey


    I would check what they mean by roi cover. What dealer are you allowed to visit for work done as opposed to where the car is driven. Also double check exactly what work is covered. If you're happy then several mates use them in uk with no problems in my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Sounds too good to be honest... Is it legit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Wasn't there a thread within the last few days where Warranty Direct (I think) said they did NOT cover ROI has they had no network garages here??!!


    edit: here we go: link
    I've seen a couple of references on Boards in relation to Warranty Direct providing cover in Ireland, which surprised me, as the last time I checked they didn't, so I just contacted them today. Here's the conversation:

    Clive: Welcome to our Warranty Direct support chat. How can I help you today?
    Me: I am in the Republic of Ireland - can I buy a warranty from you?
    Clive: Good afternoon, unfortunately we don't have any garages in the Republic of Ireland
    Me: OK, thanks
    Clive: No problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    dermatrov wrote: »
    If you want to do both vehicles I can offer £325 on each car –

    If you sell the vehicle you can transfer the warranty to the new owner or if not claims have been made you can get a pro rata refund subject to a £50 cancellation fee.

    I can confirm I would include emissions and airbags free of charge.

    I can also confirm the policy will include cover in the republic of Ireland.

    Maximum term we do is 12 months – for the fact that we would not want to tie you in for a long term contract if you do not have the car.

    Key points on our warranty include:

    · FSA regulated
    · Wear and tear cover (we do not exclude worn items)
    · Consequential loss cover
    · Points found at MOT and Service
    · Diagnostic costs
    · No overheating exclusion.
    · Claims limit to the value of the vehicle

    Wear and tear items? That's wide open to interpretation...

    EDIT - Looking at post below this seems too good to be true tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    He says that full cover in Ireland.

    That they have no network garages here but work can be done in any main Vat registered dealer, paid by me and they pay £60 per hour labour, plus parts (over certain mileages you need to contribute towards the parts, all in the booklet) - there is a small excess of 50 (I think)

    I know it looks good, just dont want to waste my money unecessarily.

    Type of Insurance and Cover
    This insurance policy pays towards the cost of repairing a
    vehicle following breakdown of an insured part. A list of
    insured parts is attached.
    Significant Features and Benefits
    1. Parts and labour cover.
    2. Car Hire.
    3. Overnight hotel accommodation.
    4. Emergency Travel within the United Kingdom.
    Significant Requirement
    Your vehicle must have been serviced within the twelve
    months prior to taking out the policy.After the policy has
    been taken out it must be serviced according to the
    manufacturer’s requirements by a VAT registered garage.
    Significant Exclusions and Limitations
    1. Any item not specifically mentioned is not covered.
    2. We will not pay for Breakdown of any insured part
    within the first ninety days of your policy incepting
    (unless it is a renewal) where the breakdown of that
    part is caused primarily or in whole by wear and tear.
    3. The policy does not cover any pre-existing faults.
    4. We will not pay for repairing or replacing parts which
    have not suffered a breakdown.
    5. The policy will pay the full cost of repairs up to the
    claims limit shown on your policy schedule.When the
    mileage is over 60,000 miles, a contribution to the
    parts costs will be required.
    6. You will be required to pay the amount of excess
    shown in the schedule for each claim.
    If you require more information about these, or other,
    exclusions and limitations you should read the Policy
    Document, particularly the sections headed ‘What is
    Insured’, ‘What is not insured’ and ‘Conditions’. Please
    ensure you read these carefully and familiarise yourself
    with them.
    Right to Cancel
    If, having purchased a vehicle breakdown insurance policy
    from us, you decide that you do not want the policy
    after all, simply write to us within 30 days of receiving
    your insurance schedule and all cover will be cancelled.
    Any premium paid will be refunded to you.
    Duration of Insurance
    Your cover can last for up to three years (depending
    upon the period of cover you have elected to take and
    also subject to earlier termination or your 30 day right to
    cancel).We may cancel the insurance by giving you 30
    days’ written notice.Your policy schedule will detail the
    period of insurance. Notwithstanding this and where
    you continue to purchase cover on a monthly basis, all
    cover will cease if the vehicle reaches 130,000 miles or
    13 years old, whichever is the sooner.
    How to Claim
    If you need to make a claim phone Warranty Direct
    Claims Department -Telephone: 0845 052 1176.
    Complaints Procedure
    If you have a problem with the service you receive, you
    can write to the Managing Director,Warranty Direct
    Limited, Quadrant House, 20 Broad Street Mall, Reading
    RG1 7QE. Tel. 0800 731 7001. If we cannot resolve your
    complaint to your satisfaction you may be entitled to
    complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) or
    the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders Limited
    (SMMT) Regulation and Compliance Unit.
    SecureCare
    This type of cover has been specifically selected to
    provide vehicles with additional cover to the Major
    Care policy, and is suitable for vehicles that are in
    excess of 7 years old and/or 70,000 miles.
    The items under the following list are covered. Any
    item not specifically mentioned is not covered.
    Engine
    All internally lubricated parts, including but not
    exclusive to the following: cam followers, camshaft
    bearings, camshaft/s, connecting rods and bearings,
    crankshaft and bearings, cylinder bores, cylinder head,
    cylinder liners, distributor drive, gudgeon pins, liner
    seals, oil pump and drive, piston rings, pistons, rocker
    gear/ tappet gear, timing chain and timing chain
    tensioner, valve guides, valve springs, valves (excl.
    decarbonisation, burnt or pitted valves and valve
    seats), cylinder block, internal bushings, rear main seal
    Specified non-lubricated parts: cylinder head gasket,
    exhaust manifolds, flex plate/ auto drive plate, inlet
    manifolds, timing gears, cambelt and cambelt
    tensioner, crankshaft pulley, flywheel, ring gear, starter
    ring gear
    Turbo
    Intercooler, turbocharger, wastegate and actuator
    Clutch
    Clutch cable, master cylinder, pedal assembly,
    slave cylinder.
    Manual transmission
    Bearings, bushes, extension shaft, gears, selector shafts
    and forks, shafts, synchromesh hubs and rings, drive
    chains, gearlever
    Automatic transmission
    Automatic transmission clutches, bearings, brake
    bands, bushes, extension shaft, gears, internal
    governor (manual and electric), oil pump, servos,
    shafts, torque converter, valve block, valves, drive
    chains, gearlever, input shaft oil seal, modulator valve
    Front Wheel Drive Unit
    Bushes and internal bearings, C.V. joints, crown wheel
    and pinion, differential gears and bearings, external
    drive shafts, front wheel bearings, universal joints
    Rear axle
    Bushes and internal bearings, C.V. joints, crown wheel
    and pinion, differential gears and bearings, external
    drive shafts, rear wheel bearings
    Four Wheel Drive System
    Bushes and internal bearings, C.V. joints, couplings,
    front differential, inter-axle differential and lock, rear
    differential and lock, shafts
    Propshaft
    Centre bearings, universal joints, propshaft
    ECUs
    Engine ECU
    Braking System
    Brake servo unit, calipers, brake master cylinder,
    wheel cylinders
    ABS
    ABS pressure reducing and proportioning valves, ABS
    pump and control unit
    Cooling System
    Heater matrix, radiator, thermostat, thermostat
    housing, viscous fan coupling, water pump
    Steering
    Column shaft, couplings, idler box, power steering unit
    including pump, pressure pipes, rack and pinion,
    reservoir, steering box, steering column tilt
    mechanism, track rods/ track rod ends
    Fuel System
    Airflow meter, cold start injector, diesel injectors, fuel
    distributor, fuel gauge, injection pumps, low pressure
    pumps, petrol injectors, tank sender unit, warm-up
    regulator
    Electronic Ignition
    Camshaft sensor, crankshaft sensor, ignition coils
    Electrics
    Alternator, alternator voltage regulator, engine cooling
    fan motor, electric window motors, front windscreen
    wiper motor, rear windscreen wiper motor, interior cabin
    fan motor, horn, indicator flasher unit, starter motor
    Bodywork
    Tailgate suspension struts
    Casings
    Casings are covered provided they have been
    damaged as a direct result of the covered failure of an
    insured part.
    Alarm systems and immobilisers
    Alarm systems and immobilisers are covered provided
    they were factory fitted by the vehicle manufacturer
    as part of the vehicle’s original specification.
    Oil Seals and Gaskets
    Oil leaks that necessitate the removal of the engine,
    gearbox/ drive unit, driveshaft or differential unit to
    carry out repairs.
    Only the components originally fitted as standard
    by the manufacturer are covered unless agreed in
    writing by us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭iphone4g


    If this is true,covering wear and tear parts he won't be in business long,I smell something fishy .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    That is weird.

    Here is the email I got from their sales guy, I will call him again now just to be 100% but I have it in writing I suppose.



    From: Chris Fajer [mailto:ChrisF@warrantydirect.co.uk]
    Sent: 26 January 2011 16:46
    To: XXXXXXXXXXXX
    Subject: Secure 6xxxxx

    Mr XXXXXXXXX
    Please find attached our secure care policy. I can confirm I can offer this for an annual premium of £349 inclusive of insurance premium tax.

    Key points on our warranty include:

    · FSA regulated
    · Wear and tear cover (we do not exclude worn items)
    · Consequential loss cover
    · Points found at MOT and Service
    · Diagnostic costs
    · No overheating exclusion.
    · Claims limit to the value of the vehicle


    Kind Regards


    Chris Fajer
    Title: Sales Mentor
    Tel: 08007317001 Ext: 235
    Fax: 0118 9719702
    Email: ChrisF@warrantydirect.co.uk

    Web: www.warrantydirect.co.uk

    Sales Department Opening Hours: Mon-Fri: 8.30am-8.00pm, Sat: 9.00am-4.00pm
    Claims Department Opening Hours: Mon-Fri: 8.30am-6.00pm, Sat: 9.00am-12.30pm


    Wasn't there a thread within the last few days where Warranty Direct (I think) said they did NOT cover ROI has they had no network garages here??!!


    edit: here we go: link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    sorry posted the wrong email


    From: Chris Fajer [mailto:ChrisF@warrantydirect.co.uk]
    Sent: 26 January 2011 17:22
    To: xxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: Secure 67xxxx

    Hi xxxx
    If you want to do both vehicles I can offer £325 on each car –

    If you sell the vehicle you can transfer the warranty to the new owner or if not claims have been made you can get a pro rata refund subject to a £50 cancellation fee.

    I can confirm I would include emissions and airbags free of charge.

    I can also confirm the policy will include cover in the republic of Ireland.

    Maximum term we do is 12 months – for the fact that we would not want to tie you in for a long term contract if you do not have the car.

    Kind Regards


    Chris Fajer
    Title: Sales Mentor
    Tel: 08007317001 Ext: 235
    Fax: 0118 9719702
    Email: ChrisF@warrantydirect.co.uk

    Web: www.warrantydirect.co.uk

    Sales Department Opening Hours: Mon-Fri: 8.30am-8.00pm, Sat: 9.00am-4.00pm
    Claims Department Opening Hours: Mon-Fri: 8.30am-6.00pm, Sat: 9.00am-12.30pm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    I agree, but it does exclude clutches
    iphone4g wrote: »
    If this is true,covering wear and tear parts he won't be in business long,I smell something fishy .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    Thats what I am afraid of.....

    I attached the actual policy book to the first post....if there are any legal eagles interested in having a look
    EPM wrote: »
    Wear and tear items? That's wide open to interpretation...

    EDIT - Looking at post below this seems too good to be true tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Duncan31


    They say there that they will not cover items which have not suffered a breakdown. I cannot therefore see how they will cover wear and tear items as observed at a service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    If they're paying £60 (~€70) per hour of the charges, you could well still be left with a big bill to pay yourself at an Irish main dealer charging €120/hr!

    Also, you need to make 100% sure that "cover in the ROI" means what you think it does and NOT that UK policy holders are covered while visiting here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Okay, i really cant see how this is profitable to that cOmpany...

    It covers service... Every single car needs to be serveced atleast 2 times per year. Just oil and filter will cost you around 150 eu in any garadge so 300 eu will go every year. So they are planing on that 200 eu profit per year. Assuming you wount brake anything...

    I smell a scam or a fine print...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Where are people getting the idea that they cover service items? They don't:

    "We will not pay for.......Routine adjustments and service items including
    (but not limited to) the distributor cap, the rotor
    arm, the condenser, points, high tension leads,
    spark plugs, wiper blades, filter parts, bulbs, belts,
    antifreeze, fluids, grease, fuel or oils, brake shoes,
    drums, discs and pads
    ."

    "You must look after the vehicle in line with the
    manufacturer’s servicing handbook, and have it
    serviced by a VAT-registered garage within 30 days or
    1000 miles (whichever is sooner) of the
    recommended service interval. To prove this you
    should make sure the garage fills in and stamps the
    handbook. You should also keep the invoices from
    services as you must provide proof of servicing when
    you make a claim
    ."


    I think what they mean by not excluding wear and tear items is e.g. if you mangle your car, they will replace the clutch, even though it may have been worn already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Okay, i really cant see how this is profitable to that cOmpany...

    It covers service... Every single car needs to be serveced atleast 2 times per year. Just oil and filter will cost you around 150 eu in any garadge so 300 eu will go every year. So they are planing on that 200 eu profit per year. Assuming you wount brake anything...

    I smell a scam or a fine print...

    Im not being smart but where does it say it covers services? I only flicked through the details,the way I picked it up was you must service your car according to manufacturer and anything found wrong with the car during this service will be covered but not including the list of items posted above



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Stevie Dakota


    "You must look after the vehicle in line with the
    manufacturer’s servicing handbook, and have it
    serviced by a VAT-registered garage within 30 days or
    1000 miles (whichever is sooner) of the
    recommended service interval. To prove this you
    should make sure the garage fills in and stamps the
    handbook. You should also keep the invoices from
    services as you must provide proof of servicing when
    you make a claim."

    Well that rules out any Irish cars being covered.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    My bad, i assumed they ment service as wear and tear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Lads warranty direct are going in the UK for years and years. They are owned by BNP Paribas, far from a dodgey backstreet scam!

    I have a warranty with them for about 2 years they have been covering Ireland for years. How it works is they authorise the claim and you pay the garage and claim back from them. It's reasonably hard to get payment but you do get it once you have a service history and go through the correct steps. This has all been discussed on here before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    Nice one thanks gpf101

    I will give them a bash, thats great

    cheers

    :D
    now to spend my hard earned cash on something I hope I dont need???
    :confused:

    gpf101 wrote: »
    Lads warranty direct are going in the UK for years and years. They are owned by BNP Paribas, far from a dodgey backstreet scam!

    I have a warranty with them for about 2 years they have been covering Ireland for years. How it works is they authorise the claim and you pay the garage and claim back from them. It's reasonably hard to get payment but you do get it once you have a service history and go through the correct steps. This has all been discussed on here before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    You would think, but the reality is main dealers prices have dropped big time.

    Last week I had to put a coil pack in the car in a saab garage. 2 hours labour came to €156 including Vat,(and included a bulb too) so most of that would have been covered.

    If they're paying £60 (~€70) per hour of the charges, you could well still be left with a big bill to pay yourself at an Irish main dealer charging €120/hr!

    Also, you need to make 100% sure that "cover in the ROI" means what you think it does and NOT that UK policy holders are covered while visiting here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermatrov


    Update:

    I bought the warranty after my issues were clarified by the guy over there, here is his email:

    From: Chris Fajer [mailto:ChrisF@warrantydirect.co.uk]
    Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 02:50 PM
    To:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: Secure 6xxxx

    Hi Mr xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Just to confirm you following questions in regards to the policy:

    ROI – cover

    I can confirm that we will cover vehicles in the Republic of Ireland – although as you are aware we do not have any network garages you can use any VAT registered garage of your choice at the labour rate as agreed on your policy.

    Wear + Tear

    I can confirm that we cover all your covered items for both sudden failure and wear and tear (w+T from 91st day). Obviously we are not covering items such as pads tyres etc on the policy.

    MOT + Service

    One of the main highlights of the policy – if a covered item is failed at MOT or Service we will cover your claim on these parts.

    Hope this clarifies everything for you –

    Kind Regards

    Chris






    Chris Fajer
    Title: Sales Mentor
    Tel: 08007317001 Ext: 235
    Fax: 0118 9719702
    Email: ChrisF@warrantydirect.co.uk
    Web: www.warrantydirect.co.uk



    Sales Department Opening Hours: Mon-Fri: 8.30am-8.00pm, Sat: 9.00am-4.00pm
    Claims Department Opening Hours: Mon-Fri: 8.30am-6.00pm, Sat: 9.00


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