Leaving a bicycle at Heuston

elvis jones

Hi,

Does anyone leave a bike at Heuston over night and if so how safe are they.

I'd bring it on the train daily but with the charges it just would have me broke in a month.

With a new train,fingers crossed, leaving Heuston for Portarlginton at 16:25 with the new time table i will need to get down there quick smart and leaving a bike at the station is my best bet.

foggy_lad

Bring it on the train? Is it not free now to bring your bike on the train?

elvis jones

No its 6 euro i believe !

Thats 60 a week:eek:

foggy_lad

Ouch but still cheaper than buying a new bike each day which is what you would be doing if you leave it at Heuston station.

elvis jones

The usual high quality level of information from Irish Rail:rolleyes:

http://www.irishrail.ie/your_journey/bicycle_information.asp

Cuddlesworth

elvis jones wrote: »

Hi,

Does anyone leave a bike at Heuston over night and if so how safe are they.

I'd bring it on the train daily but with the charges it just would have me broke in a month.

With a new train,fingers crossed, leaving Heuston for Portarlginton at 16:25 with the new time table i will need to get down there quick smart and leaving a bike at the station is my best bet.

If its looks like its worth a fiver and locked well, yeah its grand. If not I couldn't see it lasting a week.

foggy_lad

Get yourself a fold-up bike with its own bag and bring it on the train as luggage:)

elvis jones

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

If its looks like its worth a fiver and locked well, yeah its grand. If not I couldn't see it lasting a week.

Bike 211, locks 110. It's a kryptonite lock which I've been advised to get.

A fold up is a no go for me, very uncomfortable and the bike I'm getting can be used when I'm off to bring my son for a cycle with a seat on it so multi use !

Cuddlesworth

elvis jones wrote: »

Bike 211, locks 110. It's a kryptonite lock which I've been advised to get.

A fold up is a no go for me, very uncomfortable and the bike I'm getting can be used when I'm off to bring my son for a cycle with a seat on it so multi use !

Not worth it tbh. Odds are they will trash it if the lock stops them.

schemingbohemia

Have any of the people posting here of the dangers of leaving a bike there actually left a bike there? From what I've heard there aren't major issues with vandalism or theft but maybe I'm talking to the wrong people.

elvis jones

I'm leaning towards folding now but i want to use one 1st to see what they are like.

monument

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Have any of the people posting here of the dangers of leaving a bike there actually left a bike there? From what I've heard there aren't major issues with vandalism or theft but maybe I'm talking to the wrong people.

I don't use the bike parking near the carpark regularly, but have used it without any problems for longer time frames than over night (3-4 days etc).

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Not worth it tbh. Odds are they will trash it if the lock stops them.

That happens on streets when an amateur gets annoyed he can't break a lock or when a bike is badly locked and drunks jump on it.

The likelihood of it happening in the station's bicycle parking area beside the carpark is slim to none.

schemingbohemia

so the only person to have used it on this thread has used it without problems?

foggy lad how many times have your parked a bicycle there?

Sean9015

Used the bike shed at Heuston overnight for three years, including leaving bike there over holiday periods etc. Kryptonite lock. Not had a problem.

DMG 1972

I had a bike stolen from there last year , wasn't a great bike but was new looking , I left it there over the weekend- even though there are CCTV cameras there I got no joy from CIE or the guards. The lock I was using was a decent U type lock.

I still use the sheds but the bike I leave there now you wouldn't look twice at, I have talked to other people there who said their locks were tampered with, ie two locks on the bike and one was broken off.

If you have decent locks you should be okay I would recommend having two locks - a smaller one locking the front wheel and then a decent lock for the frame / back wheel.

Losty Dublin

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Have any of the people posting here of the dangers of leaving a bike there actually left a bike there? From what I've heard there aren't major issues with vandalism or theft but maybe I'm talking to the wrong people.

A friend of mine left his bike there daily for a few years with no issues.

monument

Also, one of these type of videos should automatically be attached to these types of threads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDHPpnXPv8

foggy_lad

Nope never left a bike there and I thought the op was talking about the bike racks outside the main entrance but the carpark would be more secure as there is usually some people checking around there.

MaceFace

monument wrote: »

Also, one of these type of videos should automatically be attached to these types of threads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDHPpnXPv8

Excellent - I would have got a 9 out of 10.
Don't know what a Gold rated lock is, but when I parked in Heuston I had two locks - one cost me 50 quid and was very solid - the other 20 quid and not too bad.

I parked my bike in Heuston for a year or so and never had a problem but as said used two locks, both wheels to frame and to the stand.
I also covered my bike in cheapo silver tape because I didn't care what it looked like, just concern about it being stolen.
I also replaced the quick release with the standard bolts for both wheels and saddle.
Also made sure to try and lock my bike in an area surrounded by either better bikes or badly locked bikes (best way to beat a thief - always make your stuff harder to steal than your neighbours as they will always go for the easy option). Never locked it in the corner of the bike area as too shaded.

As I said, never a problem, but I did arrive there one time where one guy went to where he parked his bike only to see his bike gone but his chain still firmly locked to the stand!

bk

It is a pity that this guy doesn't know that the best way to lock a bike is using a good quality mini ulock through the bike stand and rear wheel:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html

The larger ulocks that go through the bike stand, rear wheel AND frame are actually less effective. They are vulnerable to being leveraged open.

The mini ulocks also have the advantage of being much lighter.

monument wrote: »

Also, one of these type of videos should automatically be attached to these types of threads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDHPpnXPv8

youcancallmeal

bk wrote: »

It is a pity that this guy doesn't know that the best way to lock a bike is using a good quality mini ulock through the bike stand and rear wheel:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html

The larger ulocks that go through the bike stand, rear wheel AND frame are actually less effective. They are vulnerable to being leveraged open.

The mini ulocks also have the advantage of being much lighter.

There are downsides to using mini locks and the Sheldon Brown locking method as well....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fLtdZyX-A

bk

youcancallme>al wrote: »

There are downsides to using mini locks and the Sheldon Brown locking method as well....

Sure, but doesn't typically happen in the real world, you have just destroyed about 40% of the value of the bike (rear wheel being the second most expensive component) and it is pretty obvious seeing someone walk down the street after doing this.

Personally I also use a cable lock to lock the front wheel and frame to the bike stand.

Using this technique, I've never had a bike stolen in Dublin, I've had stuff stolen off my bike, my bike vandalised, but never successfully stolen using this method.

One weekend almost every bike in my apartments underground car park was stolen, except mine, probably the most expensive bike there. In fairness I was using a Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboutit Mini Ulock with this method