Do I need planning permission for a mobile home?

KildareCross

Just wondering if anyone knows if i need planning permission to put a mobile home in a field that will become my site then after some time. There is nothing there yet esb or water I dont know what to do.

Thanx 4 help

Victor

I think you will. If it was there for a short time (weeks) then no.

Talk to the council planning department.

Doop

I would of said no, as its not a permanent structure.... regardless of long it stays in one position.

But am open to correction.

Victor

Moved from Accommodation & Property.

Doop wrote: »

I would of said no, as its not a permanent structure.... regardless of long it stays in one position.

Its more nuanced than that. By that reasoning, you could store thousands of cars on a farm and sure, they can be moved, so its not a change of use.

However, the planning acts and councils are aware of such things and have reacted correspondingly.

Mellor

Doop wrote: »

I would of said no, as its not a permanent structure.... regardless of long it stays in one position.

But am open to correction.

Temporary structures often need planning permission too.
Also, you can't just move on to a plot of land without planning.


OP, there are some some exemptions relation to caravans etc, but there refer to storage of such, or the very brief use for camping.
To put a caravan on a plot of land, you are going to need planning permission

sydthebeat

Mellor wrote: »

Temporary structures often need planning permission too.
Also, you can't just move on to a plot of land without planning.


OP, there are some some exemptions relation to caravans etc, but there refer to storage of such, or the very brief use for camping.
To put a caravan on a plot of land, you are going to need planning permission

+1 mobile homes / caravans on a plot of land require planning permission.

even more so, how you deal with your effluent also requires permission.

Its not uncommon for an application for a house to also include permission sought for a mobile home during construction

PaudyW

you need planning and planning for waste water treatment system or for connection to existing system

landel

Just wondering. If you move into a mobile home without planning permission for it on site while building a house, what's the worst that can happen - you'll have to move it if someone complains?

sinnerboy

landel wrote: »

Just wondering. If you move into a mobile home without planning permission for it on site while building a house, what's the worst that can happen - you'll have to move it if someone complains?

Consider yourself lucky not to banned - see item 6.1 here

Do not look for ways to avoid the law here

landel

Apologies - my bad.

martinn123

landel wrote: »

Just wondering. If you move into a mobile home without planning permission for it on site while building a house, what's the worst that can happen - you'll have to move it if someone complains?

Not offering advice on breaking the law, but when I built my house I agreed with the local planner,
1 to install the waste treatment plant first, and connect mobile to it
2 get a temporary supply from ESB
3 connect mobile to water supply.
4 position mobile where it was not visible from road
5 agree obviously to remove it once house was habitable.

No problems, no complaints from neighbour as i explained situation.
Made a huge difference to be on site during building works, not to mention saving in rent, plus I made a small profit selling the mobile on completion.

Jonybgud

martinn123 wrote: »

Not offering advice on breaking the law, but when I built my house I agreed with the local planner,
1 to install the waste treatment plant first, and connect mobile to it
2 get a temporary supply from ESB
3 connect mobile to water supply.
4 position mobile where it was not visible from road
5 agree obviously to remove it once house was habitable.

No problems, no complaints from neighbour as i explained situation.
Made a huge difference to be on site during building works, not to mention saving in rent, plus I made a small profit selling the mobile on completion.

This may very well have worked for you but it is breaking the law, and just because a planner may have known about it does not change that fact.

Putting a mobile home on any site for living purposes requires planning permission. A mobile home may be stored on a site for a period of 6 months provided it is not connected to any services.

martinn123

Jonybgud wrote: »

This may very well have worked for you but it is breaking the law, and just because a planner may have known about it does not change that fact.

Putting a mobile home on any site for living purposes requires planning permission. A mobile home may be stored on a site for a period of 6 months provided it is not connected to any services.

Yes you are right regarding the law.

However in my case ( it may not work for everyone ) the planner, adopted the attitude that as I was not establishing a permanent base, just for the period of construction, that it was ok.

A previous post mentions application for a mobile as part of the application for the house, and that would be the recommended way to go.

Sometimes common sense prevails, it did in my case, enforcing the planning law, by way of some enforcment order, would have taken longer than it did to build the house, and then the mobile was gone anyway.

I am not recommending this as a course of action, as the Law, has been explained above, but maybe as a conversation with the planners.

Mellor

martinn123 wrote: »

Yes you are right regarding the law.

However in my case ( it may not work for everyone ) the planner, adopted the attitude that as I was not establishing a permanent base, just for the period of construction, that it was ok.

A previous post mentions application for a mobile as part of the application for the house, and that would be the recommended way to go.

Sometimes common sense prevails, it did in my case, enforcing the planning law, by way of some enforcment order, would have taken longer than it did to build the house, and then the mobile was gone anyway.

I am not recommending this as a course of action, as the Law, has been explained above, but maybe as a conversation with the planners.

Had somebody complained then the "the planner siad it was ok" excuse wouldn't have gotten far

martinn123

Mellor wrote: »

Had somebody complained then the "the planner siad it was ok" excuse wouldn't have gotten far

True, I covered the neighbours, the other body which raises a complaint is usually the planning authority, itself, and I had that covered as well.

Sometimes common sense prevails, it did in my case, enforcing the planning law, by way of some enforcment order, would have taken longer than it did to build the house, and then the mobile was gone anyway.