Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

Wylie Luke

Was passing Cash Converters on Marys St (just off Eglinton St) Galway today and spotted a Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 for €259 in the window, I wasn't stopping and it wasn't immediatley obvious what mount it was but it looked grand from the outside! Anyway, just thought I'd pass it on, if I get a chance I'll update!

JayEnnis

It's a horrible lense anyway, it goes for a little more than that new anyway afaik

wersal gummage

JayEnnis wrote: »

It's a horrible lense anyway, it goes for a little more than that new anyway afaik

wrong on both counts there :rolleyes:

JayEnnis

wersal gummage wrote: »

wrong on both counts there :rolleyes:

I've seen it in Sam Mc Cauleys chemists for €340

And it distorts terribly, I've seen it first hand with a friends.

Link

chisel

Can't really agree there. First of all the price is more like 500 blips new - typically these go for 350 secondhand. Also, yes it does distort between 10 and 13 mm but for landscape purposes it suits very well.

Just because you saw a comment on flickr where someone else rubbished the lens doesn't mean you have to do the same.

JayEnnis

chisel wrote: »

Can't really agree there. First of all the price is more like 500 blips new - typically these go for 350 secondhand. Also, yes it does distort between 10 and 13 mm but for landscape purposes it suits very well.

Just because you saw a comment on flickr where someone else rubbished the lens doesn't mean you have to do the same.

It was 340 new in Mc Cauleys.

And it has nothing to do with the comment, As I said my friend has it so I've experienced it first hand. Way to make an assumption.

Just my 2c.

TelePaul

JayEnnis wrote: »

I've seen it in Sam Mc Cauleys chemists for €340

And it distorts terribly, I've seen it first hand with a friends.

Link

I presume that shot was taken at the wider end of things, but a 10mm focal length with a cropped sensor is going to distort, period. Its still a great lens - just do a Flickr search for it - and the cheapest its going for on fleabay is €377. I guess that Pharmacist might have made a mistake when pricing it, or is just offering great value. I paid almost five hundred sheets for mine.

Slidinginfinity

JayEnnis wrote: »

It's a horrible lense anyway, it goes for a little more than that new anyway afaik

Oh yes it just a horrid lens it will barely take a decent photo.
Like these two I took with a borrowed Sigma 10-20 on my D90:

Peace

Excellent wide angle and a reasonable price. Yeah technically the branded versions may be better but you pay more for them.


Blue Stack


Bolivia

wersal gummage

here's another few crappy, distorted photos :

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.Longshanks.

I hate my crappy 10-20mm as well :rolleyes:

dakar

Wish I'd never bought it, the distortion is the first thing that i notice in this picture every time I see it. Pity, I kinda like the picture otherwise.

Stupid distortion....

Thecageyone

Ooooh, this is a bit of a hidden gem for great images! Some great shots lads.

I clicked the Flickr link too out of curiosity, I do not own this lens [though was tempted by one on adverts a while back]. That is some mental dis[figurement]tortion alright, on the skater. But the images in this thread more than prove it a nice piece of glass.

Slidinginfinity

Thecageyone wrote: »

Ooooh, this is a bit of a hidden gem for great images! Some great shots lads.

I clicked the Flickr link too out of curiosity, I do not own this lens [though was tempted by one on adverts a while back]. That is some mental dis[figurement]tortion alright, on the skater. But the images in this thread more than prove it a nice piece of glass.

It's a good enough piece of glass, but after borrowing one from Buzz, I think I would be more prone to buy the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8. It has excellent reviews and I never had occasion where I needed to use the Sigma at 10mm.

hmboards

Surely distortion is just the nature of the beast if you are too close to the subject and at the wrong angle ?

Lovely and powerful image there dakar.

FoxT

JayEnnis wrote: »

It's a horrible lense anyway, it goes for a little more than that new anyway afaik

I have to say I think this is an annoying and unhelpful post. Here's why:

- No mention as to why the lens is 'horrible'. If that is your personal opinion, that is fine, say its your opinion, you are entitled to it. But if you come out with a definitive statement like this, you really ought to be able to back it up with solid personal experience. Otherwise it doesnt help others.

- and then the statement 'it goes for a little more than that new anyway afaik' - You DO NOT know. This is a misleading & inaccurate statement. And you did not even attempt to check. I have just checked online at Conns & Berminghams, & 1 retailer has it at eu499 & the other at eu549.

- Finally, it turns out you do not have one of these lenses yourself ( This is rational, if you don't like it you shouldn't buy it ) but are basing your strongly worded opinion on the experience of a friend of yours?

How does your post help anybody here?

Regards, FoxT

PS - I own one of these lenses myself & am quite happy with it. ( Though, I would of course, prefer a f/1.4 version...) I am also very happy with the service I have received from the sigma folks in Bandon, & in general would recommend sigma as a good brand of lens. I am not connected with Sigma in any way, just speaking from my own experience with them over the past 3 years or so.

FoxT

Slidinginfinity wrote: »

It's a good enough piece of glass, but after borrowing one from Buzz, I think I would be more prone to buy the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8. It has excellent reviews and I never had occasion where I needed to use the Sigma at 10mm.

I have never used the tokina, but would love to have the constant f/2.8 throughout the zoom range.

FoxT

Longshanks, savage distortion entirely in pic #2, go to the back of the class, please.

Dakar, the WB in your photo is a bit off...

meh, I think I'll just sell it..:D

Borderfox

More distortion

.Longshanks.

^ bloody hell Keith, you must have been in the water to get that close to the swans with that lens!

dakar

Oh, so it's the old 'how close can you get to swans at 10mm' game again , is it?

Peace

kev_Longshanks100 wrote: »

^ bloody hell Keith, you must have been in the water to get that close to the swans with that lens!

Perhaps he has a swan outfit. The black ones have really come into vogue recently.

Crispin

I hate the distortion on this lens.... I just had to post more horrible examples:
I purposely left them uncorrected so you could see how it looks...

:mad::(:eek

:eek::mad::mad::(

Thecageyone

The first one there is a bit distorted, the building on the far left looks a bit odd, but that second shot is gorgeous. Worthy of a very large print.

BlastedGlute

I took a look at that one in cash converters. Whoever sold it in there had dunked it at the beach most likely. There was still wet sand in the zooming part of the barrel and this would definitely be inside by now. It was in terrible condition and the person who sold it knew what they were at by selling it to a shop that didnt know what to look for. Avoid it!

NakedDex

FoxT wrote: »

I have to say I think this is an annoying and unhelpful post. Here's why:

Are you saying his argument is... distorted? (I'll get my coat)

The Tokina 11-16/2.8 is fantastic. I had the good fortune to use one late last year. Sharp as a tack. I had a hankering for a 10-20 before using the Tokina, but this overtook it's position in my wanted list.
They're hard to get though. When I enquired with Conns, they had a waiting list for the Nikon mount.

spooky donkey

Had a loan of one of these at the weekend and I have to say I loved the distortion. If only I lived in Galway i might just go for it.

FoxT

had a bity of trouble lighting the red awning overhead - it needed 2 off camera flash pops & the flash barely recharged after 1 sec, finally managed it...

FoxT

Hmmm, these guys http://bit.ly/5FGFV9 like the Tokina, too.

feel a bit of Lens Lust coming on....

Thecageyone

Tokina 11-16 2.8 up on adverts atm for Canon. Not cheap though.

Deliverance XXV

There is certainly a distortion in the lens but I love it. Plenty of examples of distortion in the following images.
You wouldn't really notice it with landscapes but you would with buildings and people. I think it adds to the buildings though.

Thecageyone

Is that first shot Carlow Courthouse?

mehfesto

Genuine question here.

I'm doing a documentary thesis at the moment, and a lot of the people I'm shooting will be in cramped, small places (bedrooms, toilets, etc). I've been thinking about investing in this lens for the reason that I'd get more into the frame, but would the distortion in smaller areas - i.e. not landscapes, be VERY noticeable?

Cheers

stabo

mehfesto wrote: »

Genuine question here.

I'm doing a documentary thesis at the moment, and a lot of the people I'm shooting will be in cramped, small places (bedrooms, toilets, etc). I've been thinking about investing in this lens for the reason that I'd get more into the frame, but would the distortion in smaller areas - i.e. not landscapes, be VERY noticeable?

Cheers

Should be fine,just keep any head shots away from edge of frame.

Slidinginfinity

mehfesto wrote: »

Genuine question here.

I'm doing a documentary thesis at the moment, and a lot of the people I'm shooting will be in cramped, small places (bedrooms, toilets, etc). I've been thinking about investing in this lens for the reason that I'd get more into the frame, but would the distortion in smaller areas - i.e. not landscapes, be VERY noticeable?

Cheers

Generally it is not a good portrait lens. Distortion can get you some interesting results though.

Deliverance XXV

Thecageyone wrote: »

Is that first shot Carlow Courthouse?

It's the Cork Courthouse

Nisio

Distortion or Gaudi?

trooney

There's def a teenie bit of distortion alright, at the wider end, but I love me little sigma -

Thecageyone

Deliverance XXV wrote: »

It's the Cork Courthouse

Ha! that confirms the story I heard in history. Apparently the Carlow Courthouse plans got mixed up with the ones from Cork and Carlow got a much bigger one than meant. They're identical.

Calina

Way to avoid distortion:





I love this lens. It's just most times I use it I wind up freezing. And before anyone bothers asking I was standing in 3 feet of water taking that one last September.