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Ukrainian road accident website

  • 06-02-2011 5:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭


    I stumbled upon this, it's not for the squeamish.
    http://en.drugasmuga.com/dtp/

    This appears to be a Ukranian news agency that reports on road accidents. Many crashes are horrific and they don't hold back when it comes to showing pics of bodies, body parts etc. The reports also seem insensitive and politically incorrect (although some of that may be due to the translation into English) The road death rate in Ukraine is about 3 times that of Ireland.

    At least there are some where nobody was seriously hurt that may be amusing

    http://en.drugasmuga.com/dtp/AUDI-R8_15137.html
    He gave his car (Audi R8) to a girl just to drive... 7 PHOTOS
    09.04.2010 15:04:03 Viewings: 13052

    Audi R8 ran into a tree in Krivoi Rog. Do not think that inhabitants of Krivoi Rog are so severe that park their sports cars only in this way. In fact, there aren't many trees in this industrial city. Simply an owner of Audi R8 gave his car to the girl to drive the given sports car. The girl, in turn, filled with pleasure could not control Ingolstadt sports car (men also do not cope with sports car) and ran directly into a tree. Eyewitnesses assert that Audi R8 appeared on pavement and then dived in the tree. As eyewitness of the incident has written, it appears that lucky license plates are not always lucky! Perhaps, it may be on the contrary, she was lucky that the car ran into the tree, instead of oncoming vehicles or people. As Sancho_master writes: "the girl wearing spike heels only did with broken nose, and, probably, lifelong "duty"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    Many crashes are horrific and they don't hold back when it comes to showing pics of bodies, body parts etc.

    This might need expanding on ...

    If you want to sleep tonight, don't look at this site. Some pictures really are horrific.

    Seriously.

    EDIT
    Deffo don't let your kids see it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Vertakill


    Wow the Ukranians must really like Daewoo's.

    Either that or they're involved in an alarming number of accidents!



    If it weren't for the tragic circumstances of the majority of these reports, I would've found this quite comical.
    Nissan Tiida moved along in Naberezhno-Rybalska Street in the direction of Moskovsky Ave. The car ran into a guardrail for unknown reasons. After impact, the guardrail was bent and strung the car, having pierced it through. The driver was thrown on asphalt through the fifth door together with the torpedo...



    EDIT: OMG, take peasant's advice! Don't click on any crash that has "PHOTOS 18+" on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Jesus lads, I dont think thats a thing to have linked, it a snuff site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    IThe reports also seem insensitive and politically incorrect (although some of that may be due to the translation into English)

    Can you explain what do you mean by politically incorrect?
    What is politically incorrect in those descriptions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Cinio wrote:
    Can you explain what do you mean by politically incorrect?
    Well some of the reports could be regarded as insensitive to families of road crash victims even if what is stated has basis in fact.

    For instance - if someone's loved one has been run over and killed on the road, they might not like to read the below in the report
    A pedestrian killed under wheels of a minibus through own fault. PHOTOS...

    ...Dear pedestrians! Cross streets on zebra crossings or near the places with traffic lights. Do not run out on roads at all from behind parked vehicles - in fact, it can cause irreparable trouble. Limit your movement on roads at dark time of the day and in conditions of insufficient visibility.

    Remember! Observance of these elementary rules will help to avoid accidents on motorways.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    Well some of the reports could be regarded as insensitive to families of road crash victims even if what is stated has basis in fact.

    For instance - if someone's loved one has been run over and killed on the road, they might not like to read the below in the report

    I think I get your point, but I don't really agree.

    In this particular case, if it was 100% pedestrians fault, then it's good to warn other people what might happen.


    Actually I was really surprised how road accidents are described in Irish public media.
    It's always said that accident occured, and how many people injured or killed. Never any more details, f.e. what actually happened. They never state whose fault was it.
    How can other people learn from it, if no one knows what really happen.
    That makes that people think that accident actually just happen accidently - which is not true. In 99% cases, that's someone fault that accident occured, and it would be good to know exactly what happend, so people can avoid it in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    ...Dear pedestrians! Cross streets on zebra crossings or near the places with traffic lights. Do not run out on roads at all from behind parked vehicles - in fact, it can cause irreparable trouble. Limit your movement on roads at dark time of the day and in conditions of insufficient visibility.

    Remember! Observance of these elementary rules will help to avoid accidents on motorways.
    That sounds like excellent advice that may save somebody's life.

    Conversely, we have situations in Ireland like that case in Donegal where 7 or 8 guys piled into a car after a night on the lash and smash into some old guy on his way somewhere, killing 8 of them. In this country, for the first week you can't say anything or ask who was to blame because it's insensitive. A week later, it's forgotten - but there's another tragedy in the news that you can't ask any questions about. How are people going to learn without clear examples of the consequences of doing stupid things?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Ah come on here, its pictures of corpses, maimed and dismembered victims of RTA's. The only reason you would want to see this stuff is some sick curiosity or voyeuristic gore fetish stuff. There are people on here that will be related to victims for road death and would find this totally distasteful and disrespectful.

    I dont want to back seat mod but......come on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    CiniO wrote: »
    Actually I was really surprised how road accidents are described in Irish public media.
    It's always said that accident occured, and how many people injured or killed. Never any more details, f.e. what actually happened. They never state whose fault was it.
    How can other people learn from it, if no one knows what really happen.
    That makes that people think that accident actually just happen accidently - which is not true. In 99% cases, that's someone fault that accident occured, and it would be good to know exactly what happend, so people can avoid it in the future.
    It's a good point and you are probably right. For example, on several occasions I have seen reports of fatal crashes in Ireland where there were head shaped holes in the windscreen of a vehicle. Yet the report never mentioned whether the victims were wearing their seatbelts or not

    Did you say before that you are from Poland? Is it normal in Poland to describe crashes in a "less sensitive" manner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Ah come on here, its pictures of corpses, maimed and dismembered victims of RTA's. The only reason you would want to see this stuff is some sick curiosity or voyeuristic gore fetish stuff. There are people on here that will be related to victims for road death and would find this totally distasteful and disrespectful.

    I dont want to back seat mod but......come on
    So why did you click on the link. You were well warned in the original post. Not only did you click on the link but if you have seen gore etc., you must have also gone to pages specifically marked as being "PHOTOS 18+".

    RTAs are on topic for this forum.

    Obviously if the actual mods don't like the thread I have no problem with it being deleted


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Ah come on here, its pictures of corpses, maimed and dismembered victims of RTA's. The only reason you would want to see this stuff is some sick curiosity or voyeuristic gore fetish stuff.

    I didn't want to see what I saw there either ...I really wish I hadn't.

    But it really brings it home what a severe car accident does to you (and/or others). You don't go peacefully in your sleep ...anything but.

    Reporting on car crashes here is far too sanitised ..."a car left the road, a car hit a wall, etc" that's it, move on, nothing to see here.

    Not that I like gore, don't mind not seeing pics like those ever again ...but ...it made me sit up and think about my driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    BrianD3 wrote: »

    Did you say before that you are from Poland? Is it normal in Poland to describe crashes in a "less sensitive" manner?

    Yes I'm from Poland.
    And pretty much answer is yes. You get proper description on radio or in the papers, what happened. Similar to the examples from Ukrainean website you showed us.
    Only difference is they usually don't show bodies on the pictures. And if they do, they alway blur the faces.

    Here's an example of accident that occured some time ago near city I'm from. 10 people (including children without any restraint system) travellin in Toyota Previa which is designed only for 7 people. Driver drunk.

    (Link goes through google translator into english so you could understand - but don't be surprices it's not gramatically correct, as google translator isn't that great.).

    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.gazetakrakowska.pl/aktualnosci/277296,tarnow-pijany-kierowca-spowodowal-wypadek,id,t.html%3Fcookie%3D1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgbDF-i90L9lgZ2xzsjqGrFb9qZUQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    There's also a bit of media self-censorship when someone commits suicide by throwing themselves under a train in Ireland, you hear it on AA Roadwatch - so and so railway station is closed because of an 'incident'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,988 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    peasant wrote: »
    I didn't want to see what I saw there either ...I really wish I hadn't.

    But it really brings it home what a severe car accident does to you (and/or others). You don't go peacefully in your sleep ...anything but.

    Reporting on car crashes here is far too sanitised ..."a car left the road, a car hit a wall, etc" that's it, move on, nothing to see here.

    Not that I like gore, don't mind not seeing pics like those ever again ...but ...it made me sit up and think about my driving.

    Indeed.
    Bur it doesnt seem to be working too well in the Ukraine (not sure how long this site has been on the go/or how long this style of reporting has been going on) and lets be honest, if we expanded this type of reporting to the rest of our society would as many people agree.
    "Y, the drug dealer from A had his head shot off (see pics of blood spattered interior of the sitting room which was home to his four kids) because he had crossed another drug dealer. If only he hadnt been so stupid."
    "X, died of lung cancer, she smoked 60 a day and did no physical exercise. This will kill you and the warning is on the packs but she still smoked.........."
    Now, replace Y with X or at least make them obvious to those that know them and you have outcry - but its okay when it comes to car crashes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    You wouldn't see that in Ireland

    The lads who killed themselves in Monaghan a few years back playing chicken was quickly forgotten.
    And if you ask what they were doing it was like an insult to the families for being insensitive

    No need for gore or sensitive information.
    But the RSA giving an article to the papers showing what happened, speeds, what mistakes were made and make it technical gets people thinking


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