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  • 04-02-2011 11:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭


    I did my jc two years ago, all honours, and got 6 A's in; English, French, Maths Business, History and C.S.P.E nad 3 B's in geogrpahy science and Irish. Anyone needs a few pointers, I'd gladly oblige.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Villafan6


    Hi man thanks for the help but I'm kind of worried about Maths and Irish any help
    P.S Higher Maths and Ordinary Irish(just paper 1)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Indiego


    wow, thanks for offfering to help! could you give me a few tips on higher level irish p1 and p2? have my p2 mock on wednesday, its my first mock and im freaking out hahhah :S
    thanks a milll :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    Villafan6 wrote: »
    Hi man thanks for the help but I'm kind of worried about Maths and Irish any help
    P.S Higher Maths and Ordinary Irish(just paper 1)

    Maths comes down to one thing, practice. If you can do the papers from the past 3 years you'll do this years paper no problem. Don't ever fret about questions in the book, they aren't as reliable as the real paper. Another thing I did which worked well was to get all the theorems that could come up, write them out on A4 sheets and learn them! Make sure you can write them out if needed, that helps considerably! Know what each question involves on each paper, know what your favourite questions are and do them first. It's all about practice! If you know you're equations, your theorems and if you've done the papers, completed inside out you'll be fine! In my junior cert mock I got an E, I knew I didn't deserve that, so I proved it in the real thing with an A, just do the work, it'll pay off :)

    Irish paper don't worry at all, practice your cluaistuiscint, for the next section the answers are on the page from what I've heard, you ust have to pick them out! Again enough practice at this should suffice. Do your work that's all I can say :)


    So overall I think the main point to take from this is PRACTICE and hard work, and if things dont go well, dont worry, I thought I'd failed my maths test after the jc, I was so annoyed I couldn't work out one question, but hey it'll work out in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    Indiego wrote: »
    wow, thanks for offfering to help! could you give me a few tips on higher level irish p1 and p2? have my p2 mock on wednesday, its my first mock and im freaking out hahhah :S
    thanks a milll :)

    Hey, no problem! Ok so for paper one, I'd recommend going with the scéal or aiste, first off it's generally more simple to write about. Make sure you know what's being asked I cant stress that enough!! I learned off a scéal for my jc, and I don't know how clever that was :p I'd recommend just knowing your basic Irish well, the seimhus, the urus, when and where to add an i all this will help you. Aswell, learn off some phrases, they can enrich your work and help you to keep the flow of the story going, some seanfhocails aswell! Stuff like "Chomh maith leis sin=Aswell as that, Dá bhrí ar sin=because of that, Is maith an scéalai an aimsir=Only time will tell " It'll help :) Have some word power built up!
    For the léamhtuiscint, just practice, practice, practice.

    Right paper two, you have another léamhtuiscint, practice ;) For whichever story you're studying know it well, the themes, feelings and the general jist of it all :) Be able to write about it. I did "Dúnmharu ar an Dart" and I just had some pages written out on all th themes that could come up! This might help you. Know you're poetry, know what you want to write, you can integrate anyhting you know into the question :) the short pieces are lovely then, just practice. And the letter just know the layout and how to answer them, paragrpahs one point per paragraph et :)
    Good luck in your mock and trust me if you do well, fairplay but theres a long way to go before the real thing! If you do poorly don't worry at all!! They are designed to give people who arent working a kick up the ass, work hard it'll pay off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭niaroh1x96


    Hey, thanks a lot for offering help :) ...just wondering about french, history & english...well french and history in particular, thanks again


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


    Hey! Thanks for offering to help.

    How did you study for Business?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    niaroh1x96 wrote: »
    Hey, thanks a lot for offering help :) ...just wondering about french, history & english...well french and history in particular, thanks again

    No bother, for french the paper is fairly clearly set out. You have your listening, which shouldn't be too difficult in time, especially as the answers are in English, just practice. :) Then the short sections which are fairly ok in time likewise. The comprehension are like extended versions of the short summaries. The most testing part is the letter or postcard or whichever, this is what I would recommend, LEARN PHRASESconstantly, starting learning 5 phrases a night which correspond with each topic, you'll find them in your book, or ask your teacher for them. You don't have to be brilliant at french to do well, if you have enough word power you'll be fine. Know your tenses, inside and out, be able to switch between the passé composé and futur simple quite well, and know the verbs like etre that are unorthodox!! Make sure you know the passé compsé verbs which accompany etre and those which accompany avoir and how they change!!!:) I got a D in my mocks and an A in the jc, never worry just look at the work and do it :)
    For history I'd like to give you some solid advice but I'm finding it quite difficult. I studied history the night before the exam, and was contemplating doing pass on the day, I did honours, got an A and I'll never know how :P I think it's because I was quite good at integrating what I learned into any answer in order to make it look like I was right, I put this down to english :P But learn the major topics such as world war one and the renaissance, and an obscure painter aside from the likes of Da Vinci, this will help! I quite liked history, it's interesting but I never really worked at it.
    For English, you have a greater spectrum of creativity :) I enjoy English, my teacher was quite brilliant, he covered the major topics and we never once looked at an old exam paper!! Odd, I know. I went into the junior cert, knowing fully at the time that I had only ever seen a full exam in my mocks, but this never worried me. For the essay I had an idea of what I wanted to write and I worked it into my answer. The rest, such as poetry and The Merchant of Venice I just knew. I knew the major aspects of each piece, the protagonists and antagonists (heroes and villians) the turning points and the major themes and issues. Practice writing essays, write summaries on each scene in the Shakespeare play and work it'll pay off ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    Hey! Thanks for offering to help.

    How did you study for Business?

    No problem! With business it's really all about learning :P And that comes with practising the work! Seriously, for the short answers do every single year of short answer questions and know the answers!! With paper one I was quite fortunate! I gambled that insurance would come up for the first time in quite a while and it did! Quite chuffed at that I was, but you can either be a budget man or not. I wasn'tone for doing the budget it was never for me! I learned off all the other questions which could come up and stuck with them.
    Paper two is dominated by accounting. If you like it you shuld be ok, I quite liked it, if you find it difficult work at it, it'll be ok if you work hard at it. Learn all about marketing and ESPECIALLY all the EU and trading crap, very relevant to today, and it may be worth looking at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


    Thanks for the advice!

    I really think there is no excuse for not doing well in Business, as you pretty much know what is coming up. Household Budgeting, Trading P/L Appropriation Account and Balance Sheet, Ledgers, Club Accounts, People at Work -- they're nearly guaranteed to come up every year, so if you don't prepare them, then you're rather stupid.

    Thankfully, I'm good at Household Budgeting and I find it fairly simple. Will be hoping an Estimated/Actual budget comes up as I can fly through that in ten or fifteen minutes.

    What gets me at the moment are the short questions. A lot of them seem to be little niggly questions that you'd only know if you have a good knowledge of the course. I don't at the moment, as I haven't studied much yet. They are worth the same as two long questions, and I'm worried about this for my Pre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    What gets me at the moment are the short questions. A lot of them seem to be little niggly questions that you'd only know if you have a good knowledge of the course. I don't at the moment, as I haven't studied much yet. They are worth the same as two long questions, and I'm worried about this for my Pre.

    Showing you want to do well in your mocks and a willingness to study shows me you'll be fine. I did very little in the jc up until around easter/may and well it worked out well haha never stress, you'll be fine. Do your homework, revision, then concentrate on studying. And have time to relax :) Plenty of time for fun :) Short questions are niggly, I remember when I opened up mine (2009) and saw the first question was on input and output devices I was brickin it, I didn't know the answer, just guessed it :P

    Oh and the mocks aren't the be all end all, they're pretty much there to give you a kick up the ass and to show you what sitting an exam in a confined time feels like.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


    Patri wrote: »
    Oh and the mocks aren't the be all end all, they're pretty much there to give you a kick up the ass and to show you what sitting an exam in a confined time feels like.

    Try telling that to my Mom and Dad. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭TehFionnster


    Hello! :D

    I'm aiming for an A in Irish, but I've heard it's almost impossible, like I have fairly good Irish, I'm just worried that It won't be up to standard..

    Apparently the marking scheme crucifies people for small grammatical errors, like forgetting tuiseal ginedeach etc.
    Any tips? :D
    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


    Hello! :D

    I'm aiming for an A in Irish, but I've heard it's almost impossible, like I have fairly good Irish, I'm just worried that It won't be up to standard..

    Apparently the marking scheme crucifies people for small grammatical errors, like forgetting tuiseal ginedeach etc.
    Any tips? :D
    Thanks :)

    Tuiseal ginedeach?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    Hello! :D

    I'm aiming for an A in Irish, but I've heard it's almost impossible, like I have fairly good Irish, I'm just worried that It won't be up to standard..

    Apparently the marking scheme crucifies people for small grammatical errors, like forgetting tuiseal ginedeach etc.
    Any tips? :D
    Thanks :)

    Nothing is impossible if you put your mind to it ;) I'd recommend knowing your basics first and foremost, that's what caught me out. I launched into poetry, and the úrscéal and everything learning phrases and words but I never took heed to the most basic stuff such as an fear, an bhean an scéal, an tsathorlann all that stuff. Know your basics well, I can't stress that enough. Then learn your story, know your poems, practise comprehensions and build up a strong vocabulary of words. If you think you are weak at essays, practise, and maybe learn some universal phrases that you could work into any kind of story or essay. Or even learn an essay off! It can help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


    What order would you recommend doing English Paper One in?

    I don't know whether to do the essay first. It's worth the most marks, but I could go overtime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Sgt.Peppers


    im doin leavin but anyhow,got a lend of a calculator? i believe i have maths 2moro might be english tho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    What order would you recommend doing English Paper One in?

    I don't know whether to do the essay first. It's worth the most marks, but I could go overtime.

    Whatever you feel most comfortable with. I liked doing the comprehension first, it eased me into the paper and got me thinking functionally and creatively, before the essay. Make sure you know the allotted time for each section and try your best to stick with this. I tended to spend too much time with the comprehension questions but quickly learned to be concise and finish happy in the knowledge that I had plent of time for the essay and other sections. You can always have a glance at the essay titles when you first open the paper, just to see what you'll go for, and there's no harm in having something well written prepared and learned. I had an idea of what I wanted to write and that's what I wrote. Anything is relevant if you can show that it's relevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Patri


    im doin leavin but anyhow,got a lend of a calculator? i believe i have maths 2moro might be english tho

    Good luck! In leaving cert myself, mocks on the 28th :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


    Patri wrote: »
    Whatever you feel most comfortable with. I liked doing the comprehension first, it eased me into the paper and got me thinking functionally and creatively, before the essay. Make sure you know the allotted time for each section and try your best to stick with this. I tended to spend too much time with the comprehension questions but quickly learned to be concise and finish happy in the knowledge that I had plent of time for the essay and other sections. You can always have a glance at the essay titles when you first open the paper, just to see what you'll go for, and there's no harm in having something well written prepared and learned. I had an idea of what I wanted to write and that's what I wrote. Anything is relevant if you can show that it's relevant.

    Cheers! I actually have an essay learned off. Well, I haven't learned it off - I just know the whole thing. I've used it for every essay we've done in class and I've managed to adapt to at least one title every year so far. I've gotten all B's, except Friday, when I got my first A. I was very happy, :pac:. The problem is I'm relying on that one essay. I'm very uncreative and I doubt I'd be able to come up with a good essay in the exam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Desire to Aspire


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