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Aldi computer 6 Feb 2011

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    and link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Nope, not great at all

    To break it down
    CPU - 85 euros
    ram - 40 euros
    hdd - 50 euros
    graphics - prob 40 euros (not for gaming really)
    case + psu + dvd drive - 65 euros
    win 7 = 80 euros
    mobo - 35

    it should be closer to 400 to be any kind of deal really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭tmcw


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    ...
    CPU - 85 euros
    ....

    Do you have a link for that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    it should be closer to 400 to be any kind of deal really
    Looking for a fairly low spec machine at the mo for basic office/internet/email and would love if you recommended one in the €400 price range. Was thinking of the Aldi one out of laziness and becuase of the 3 year guarantee. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 zoeczk


    Looking for a fairly low spec machine at the mo for basic office/internet/email and would love if you recommended one in the €400 price range. Was thinking of the Aldi one out of laziness and becuase of the 3 year guarantee. :confused:

    go two for the office the last time they were on offer. if they are the ones with a terrabyte on them they're fairly decent. will do everything your looking for. there was a small problem with one of them (down to user error) and the helpline staff were, well, really helpful!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭MASTER...of the bra


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Nope, not great at all

    To break it down
    CPU - 85 euros
    ram - 40 euros
    hdd - 50 euros
    graphics - prob 40 euros (not for gaming really)
    case + psu + dvd drive - 65 euros
    win 7 = 80 euros
    mobo - 35

    it should be closer to 400 to be any kind of deal really


    To be able to put all that together......PRICELESS :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭PaulPinnacle


    To be able to put all that together......PRICELESS :p
    ... or €20 on Hardwareversand.de :p

    (Although there is a little more effort required in picking out the individual components going the self build route, hopping over to the PC building and upgrading section of boards should provide all the information needed and also means you're getting a machine specifically for your needs [with higher/lower spec as required] and often at far lower prices [as appears to be the case here]).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭MASTER...of the bra


    Jonny7 wrote: »

    To break it down
    CPU - 85 euros
    ram - 40 euros
    hdd - 50 euros
    graphics - prob 40 euros (not for gaming really)
    case + psu + dvd drive - 65 euros
    win 7 = 80 euros
    mobo - 35

    it should be closer to 400 to be any kind of deal really

    Does this breakdown take in to account that it's USB 3?

    Here is a comparison with the Athlon chip in this computer versus the Intel i3 530, there's nothing in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Spazdarn


    The three year warranty makes it almost worth it...


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Nope, not great at all

    it should be closer to 400 to be any kind of deal really

    Think you are quite frugal on those quotes mate, some links including specs and P+P as I think this is not a bad price given it will come as a complete build with no compatibility issues...anyone in tha market would be pushed for a cheaper like for like alternative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Formosa


    New Medion PC in Aldi Sunday Specials brochure 6 Feb. €500, don't know how much of a bargain that is but they are usually very popular and in short supply. No link on the Aldi site but this is it here.

    http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ca/review/2014802/medion-akoya-p5315


    They had these about 6 months ago for the same price (I bought one then, no complaints)...however after about 4 weeks after the offer they were selling them off for €449.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    slave1 wrote: »
    Think you are quite frugal on those quotes mate, some links including specs and P+P as I think this is not a bad price given it will come as a complete build with no compatibility issues...anyone in tha market would be pushed for a cheaper like for like alternative

    AMD Athlon II X4 640 Box AM3 Product Description: AMD Athlon II X4 640 / 3 GHz processor
    Product Type: Processor
    Processor Type: AMD Athlon II X4 640


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV20X466DE
    86,11 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    ASRock 880GMH/USB3 R2.0, Sockel AM3, mATX Product Description: ASRock 880GMH/USB3 R2.0 - motherboard - micro ATX - AMD 880G
    Product Type: Motherboard
    Form Factor: Micro ATX


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV1129RTDE
    66,16 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    4GB-Kit A-DATA Value DDR3 U-DIMM 1333 Product Description: A-DATA memory - 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3
    Storage Capacity: 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB
    Upgrade Type: Generic


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV20AD13DE
    34,31 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    HKC Case 4673GD, mATX, 420Watt Product Description: HKC 4673GD - tower - micro ATX
    Form Factor: Tower
    Dimensions (WxDxH): 17 cm x 40 cm x 37 cm


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV203H07DE
    36,61 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    Sapphire HD5450 512M DDR2 PCI-E HDMI / DVI-I / VGA Product Description: Sapphire RADEON HD 5450 - graphics adapter - Radeon HD 5450 - 512 MB
    Device Type: Graphics adapter
    Enclosure Type: Plug-in card - low profile


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV1027SCDE
    31,47 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB, 32MB, ST31000528AS Product Description: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - hard drive - 1 TB - SATA-300
    Type: Hard drive - internal
    Form Factor: 3.5" x 1/3H


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV13S2B1DE
    48,87 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    Samsung SH-223C bare schwarz SATA Product Description: Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-S223C - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA
    Device Type: DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive
    Enclosure Type: Internal


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV207SC3DE
    15,78 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation Besonderheiten: Verkauf nur mit einem neuen PC oder Notebook!
    Beschreibung: OEM-Betriebssystem
    Bezeichnung: OEM MS Windows 7 Home Premium


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HVSE7HH6DE
    79,90 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs

    399,21 €

    Plus 50 quid for build and shipping (graphics cards are the same speed) There's been some good deals on Aldi, this one isn't great though. If it was 400 however..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    you haven't factored in a warranty, so that would be 449.21 plus about another €100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    touch-e Skerries touch-e

    but those items are under warranty anyway..

    dammit people they practically had the same spec pc for 400 euros about 6 months ago.. or more.. (just without the usb3 big whoop)

    But really, by all means, go ahead.. buy it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    AMD Athlon II X4 640 Box AM3 Product Description: AMD Athlon II X4 640 / 3 GHz processor
    Product Type: Processor
    Processor Type: AMD Athlon II X4 640


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV20X466DE
    86,11 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    ASRock 880GMH/USB3 R2.0, Sockel AM3, mATX Product Description: ASRock 880GMH/USB3 R2.0 - motherboard - micro ATX - AMD 880G
    Product Type: Motherboard
    Form Factor: Micro ATX


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV1129RTDE
    66,16 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    4GB-Kit A-DATA Value DDR3 U-DIMM 1333 Product Description: A-DATA memory - 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3
    Storage Capacity: 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB
    Upgrade Type: Generic


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV20AD13DE
    34,31 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    HKC Case 4673GD, mATX, 420Watt Product Description: HKC 4673GD - tower - micro ATX
    Form Factor: Tower
    Dimensions (WxDxH): 17 cm x 40 cm x 37 cm


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV203H07DE
    36,61 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    Sapphire HD5450 512M DDR2 PCI-E HDMI / DVI-I / VGA Product Description: Sapphire RADEON HD 5450 - graphics adapter - Radeon HD 5450 - 512 MB
    Device Type: Graphics adapter
    Enclosure Type: Plug-in card - low profile


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV1027SCDE
    31,47 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB, 32MB, ST31000528AS Product Description: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - hard drive - 1 TB - SATA-300
    Type: Hard drive - internal
    Form Factor: 3.5" x 1/3H


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV13S2B1DE
    48,87 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    Samsung SH-223C bare schwarz SATA Product Description: Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-S223C - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA
    Device Type: DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive
    Enclosure Type: Internal


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HV207SC3DE
    15,78 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs


    OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation Besonderheiten: Verkauf nur mit einem neuen PC oder Notebook!
    Beschreibung: OEM-Betriebssystem
    Bezeichnung: OEM MS Windows 7 Home Premium


    Verfügbarkeit: Art-Nr.: HVSE7HH6DE
    79,90 €
    incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs

    399,21 €

    Plus 50 quid for build and shipping (graphics cards are the same speed) There's been some good deals on Aldi, this one isn't great though. If it was 400 however..
    Make that 350, delivered if you exclude the Windows tax and build it yourself.
    Skerries wrote: »
    you haven't factored in a warranty, so that would be 449.21 plus about another €100
    Each part comes with it's own manufacturers warranty, which could be up to a couple of years as standard. Your mileage may vary in this department, however.
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭polyfusion


    Make that 350, delivered if you exclude the Windows tax and build it yourself.


    Each part comes with it's own manufacturers warranty, which could be up to a couple of years as standard. Your mileage may vary in this department, however.
    .

    Did you not mean €450 delivered?

    Anyway, for most people, doing a self-build is a lot more involved than is made out here in previous posts. Easy when you know what you're doing, a monumental headache if you're not familiar with the innards of a PC, unsure of what minimum spec will be required, and even if individual components are bought assembled, could be a bit of a puzzle for some people as it's unlikely to have instructions for hooking up to existing peripherals. Yes, all information readily available on the internet, but taken all together, a lot of research would be required by a novice.

    I'm not going to say whether the Aldi PC is a good or bad deal, it depends on the individual and what equipment they already have in place. My point is that, for most people, you can't compare pre-assembled and self-build PC's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 osotogari


    polyfusion wrote: »
    Did you not mean €450 delivered?

    Anyway, for most people, doing a self-build is a lot more involved than is made out here in previous posts. Easy when you know what you're doing, a monumental headache if you're not familiar with the innards of a PC, unsure of what minimum spec will be required, and even if individual components are bought assembled, could be a bit of a puzzle for some people as it's unlikely to have instructions for hooking up to existing peripherals. Yes, all information readily available on the internet, but taken all together, a lot of research would be required by a novice.

    I'm not going to say whether the Aldi PC is a good or bad deal, it depends on the individual and what equipment they already have in place. My point is that, for most people, you can't compare pre-assembled and self-build PC's.

    Totalling those components and excluding the build price and Windows 7 comes to €349.31 (incl shipping at €30)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 vbunse


    3 year warranty is a big plus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    polyfusion wrote: »
    Did you not mean €450 delivered?
    No, €350.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    polyfusion wrote: »
    My point is that, for most people, you can't compare pre-assembled and self-build PC's.
    Well as for parts and minimum specs, as you mentioned, you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    Ballinasloe store have their previous offering still in stock (dual core, 3gig ram, TB hd, yadayada). Reduced from €449 to €399.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭exspes


    jesus who cares? if you can put together the parts yourself its a bad deal, if you can't then getting a prebuilt computer is what you want, agree to disagree and stfu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    exspes wrote: »
    jesus who cares? if you can put together the parts yourself its a bad deal, if you can't then getting a prebuilt computer is what you want, agree to disagree and stfu.
    It's not a disagreement of whether or not its better to build or buy. It's a discussion over whether or not it's a bargain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭exspes


    yea and it is a ****ing bargain assuming you don't already own a copy of windows, have the knowledge to put together the computer and want to deal with the hassle of the onus being on you to fix the computer if it breaks. again, stfu, many people would be delighted to know about this, wtf is the point in getting into a flame war over someone posting up a perfectly reasonable thing, i'm sure several people have already made up their minds that this is a bargain after seeing this post, hence this post ALERTED them to the fact that something THEY CONSIDERED A BARGAIN was being sold. Whether you think it's a bargain or not is immaterial and has already been expressed over 2 pages of posts. again i say, stfu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    exspes wrote: »
    yea and it is a ****ing bargain assuming you don't already own a copy of windows, have the knowledge to put together the computer and want to deal with the hassle of the onus being on you to fix the computer if it breaks. again, stfu, many people would be delighted to know about this, wtf is the point in getting into a flame war over someone posting up a perfectly reasonable thing, i'm sure several people have already made up their minds that this is a bargain after seeing this post, hence this post ALERTED them to the fact that something THEY CONSIDERED A BARGAIN was being sold. Whether you think it's a bargain or not is immaterial and has already been expressed over 2 pages of posts. again i say, stfu.

    Dude.. seriously..


    Once and for all, this isn't a bargain, they had practically the SAME pc x number of months ago for 399. With the blasted 3 year warranty.

    If you wanna buy this one, go for it, its not a rip off either, its just in the middle, in the meh zone.

    The ultra bargain hawk computer nerds have spoken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    ...its not a rip off either, its just in the middle, in the meh zone.
    Time for a new sub-forum? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭tmcw


    Make that 350, delivered if you exclude the Windows tax and build it yourself.


    Each part comes with it's own manufacturers warranty, which could be up to a couple of years as standard. Your mileage may vary in this department, however.
    .

    If you exclude the cost of the OS, you're not comparing like with like.

    I also think most would appreciate a 3 year warranty with one organisation, than several varying (possibly) length warranties on individual components.

    Also, do the components from hardwareversand come with all the cables, screws/adaptors, case fan(s), heatsink that would be needed to complete a valid comparison?

    Plus you get a mouse and keyboard with the Aldi setup.

    I think at the end of the day, when everything is taken into account, I don't think there is as much difference between what the self-build people are putting forward here and the package offered by Aldi, except that you've got the extra work of going to the trouble of checking out all the individual components for a self-build. Again, as already pointed out, easy if you have the knowledge, not so easy if you're don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    tmcw wrote: »
    If you exclude the cost of the OS, you're not comparing like with like.
    There are plenty of free operating systems out there.
    I also think most would appreciate a 3 year warranty with one organisation, than several varying (possibly) length warranties on individual components.
    Granted.
    Also, do the components from hardwareversand come with all the cables, screws/adaptors, case fan(s), heatsink that would be needed to complete a valid comparison?
    Yup. Evething that Jonny7 priced earlier will get it up and running without a cent more.
    Plus you get a mouse and keyboard with the Aldi setup.
    True, but there's 150 quid leftover from the self-build (ex. Windows), if you don't already have a mouse and keyboard.
    I think at the end of the day, when everything is taken into account, I don't think there is as much difference between what the self-build people are putting forward here and the package offered by Aldi, except that you've got the extra work of going to the trouble of checking out all the individual components for a self-build. Again, as already pointed out, easy if you have the knowledge, not so easy if you're don't.
    If the PC were 400, there would be no question. Even 450. 500, however is enough to get you a very decent rig, good enough to play most games on. People should just be aware of that before they rush out and buy new shiny things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Another thread on boards which highlights the general make up of the userbase.
    There are a lot of techie heads on here for want of a better term. People who are used to and have confidence sourcing components and building PC's.
    This kinda stuff is like rocket science to most people out there.
    Its like a mechanic wondering why someone would go an pay a main dealer to get their car serviced when they could (in theory) do it themselves.


    Its not practical for the general populace to go out an buy all the parts to build a PC, then set the PC up properly in the BIOS (if required) then install an OS of some description, which is why companies like Dell, HP, Acer, etc still make a lot of money from selling PC's.

    Ultimately, this PC is a bargain for the man on the street. The three year warranty is not something I personally would ever "Pay extra" for with a PC, as I am confident enough to know how to fix whatever may go wrong, but for a "ordinary" non techie person this would be a key factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭exspes


    If the PC were 400, there would be no question. Even 450. 500, however is enough to get you a very decent rig, good enough to play most games on. People should just be aware of that before they rush out and buy new shiny things.

    The PC is 500, minus 80 for windows 7 = 420. minus 20 for the keyboard and mouse = 400. minus 20 for the n-grade wireless = 380. also while you cant put a price on the effort of having to put it together, it does save hassle.

    I can do sums me.

    Also, what free version of windows 7 have you found? cause i've never seen a free version of windows 7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    exspes wrote: »
    The PC is 500, minus 80 for windows 7 = 420. minus 20 for the keyboard and mouse = 400. minus 20 for the n-grade wireless = 380. also while you cant put a price on the effort of having to put it together, it does save hassle.

    I can do sums me.

    Also, what free version of windows 7 have you found? cause i've never seen a free version of windows 7.
    How about we discuss this over on the PC Building & Upgrading forum instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭PaulPinnacle


    kippy wrote: »
    Its not practical for the general populace to go out an buy all the parts to build a PC, then set the PC up properly in the BIOS (if required) then install an OS of some description, which is why companies like Dell, HP, Acer, etc still make a lot of money from selling PC's.
    I'm more than happy to admit that I have zero hardware knowledge and have no idea of the compatibility of different components. However, if I jumped onto the building and upgrading forum and gave my budget and intended use (e.g. gaming, work stuff, all round use, etc.), then I know that helpful boardsies would give me everything I needed to know.

    After that, it's simply a matter of paying an extra €20 for the 'self build' to come pre built (and with the OS installed if one is ordered) by HVS and it's job done.

    I can't for a second believe that this isn't practical for anyone that is already a member of boards. The most complicated part is figuring out how the PC will actually be used to ensure the feedback from those that do have the knowledge meets the needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I'm more than happy to admit that I have zero hardware knowledge and have no idea of the compatibility of different components. However, if I jumped onto the building and upgrading forum and gave my budget and intended use (e.g. gaming, work stuff, all round use, etc.), then I know that helpful boardsies would give me everything I needed to know.

    After that, it's simply a matter of paying an extra €20 for the 'self build' to come pre built (and with the OS installed if one is ordered) by HVS and it's job done.

    I can't for a second believe that this isn't practical for anyone that is already a member of boards. The most complicated part is figuring out how the PC will actually be used to ensure the feedback from those that do have the knowledge meets the needs.

    We can argue all day about this, but there are many members of boards, even with the help of the building and upgrading forum would never think and never attempt to build their own PC or even do it via HVS. (Well they might, but then there is another section of the populace and boards userbase who would prefer to see the PC they are going to buy in front of them before the buy it)

    Outside of the boards user base, surprisingly to some here there is a vast swath of the population that arent aware of the resources that could be used (freely) such as boards to assist with building and buying PC's.

    These aren't facts, they are from personal experience but there is a large amount of people on this forum who assume that the average Irish person has the knowledge, skills and intelligence to figure out how to build a PC from the ground up - my opinion is, there arent.


    I see what you are saying and can understand it perfectly, however there are large amounts of people who dont, even members here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭druidhill


    My two cents worth...
    If you know enough about PCs and are confident with attempting a self-build, then you should know that this offer is not the best value out there. If you don't know enough about computers and just want one ready to go out of the box, then this system is probably overkill for your needs and you would be better off purchase a full system (including monitor) for in or around the same price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭PaulPinnacle


    kippy wrote: »
    We can argue all day about this...
    Not really, I agree with pretty much every word you said.
    kippy wrote: »
    ... but there are many members of boards, even with the help of the building and upgrading forum would never think and never attempt to build their own PC or even do it via HVS.
    While I agree this is the case, the reason for the posts were to point out it doesn't need to be the case.

    With a little help from those willing to give it, it can be a relatively easy process ensuring it's the right 'build' and can come built and ready to use (and while it is a little extra work to get the feedback from those 'in the know', it's normally more than worth it [even including the additional cost of the build from the supplier]).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭daenerysstormborn3


    My bf bought a Medion pc a few months back. His acer packed it in and he needed one asap, closest place to us that sold pcs and was still open on a sunday evening was aldi, he went in they had one medion left and he picked it up.

    He would know a lot about computers and this is what he thinks of the medion: 3gbs of ram, 32bit system, dual processor, trb harddrive, gets a huge amount of use, he has software for college on it like solid edge (which is notoriously difficult to run on any system) and it runs like a dream. It's on from 9am until about 2am and not had a problem. His opinion, if it had a dell stamp on it it would be about 800 quid.

    Medion are one of the biggest pc companies in Europe.

    His dream is to build his own alien tower and his dream laptop is a dell xps.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Not getting into the self build argument as I agree completely that wading through pages of computer components holds no interest for the vast majority of the populace, so I think it only fair to judging it against other prebuilt options.

    Relative to the closest specced Dell I can find, the Medion is certainly has to be considered decent offer especially for a bricks an mortar store, I would say it is a competitive price that falls a little short of an bargain (About 50 quid shy IMO). The dell has an extra 2GB of ram (that the average user will never actually use so is pretty well irrelevant to the equasion), but aside from that the Medion is at at least it equal or better in every other facet and is 50 quid cheaper, with a longer warranty.

    http://ireland.dell.com/ie/en/home/Desktops/inspiron-570/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-570&s=dhs&cs=iedhs1&~oid=ie~en~510295~inspiron-570_d005722~~

    Komplete.ie have a very similar Packard bell for 509 + Free Shipping, the medion has a slight edge over this one too with the obvious bonus that you can get it right there and then.

    http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_02PC/01_DESKTOP/01_COMPUTE/productdetails/80001171/Packard_Bell_iMedia_A4713_X4_605e_4GB_1TB_6150/PT_U58E2_256/default.aspx

    I don't even have to check to know the medion would pee all over anything you walked out of PC World with for the same price. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Not really, I agree with pretty much every word you said.


    While I agree this is the case, the reason for the posts were to point out it doesn't need to be the case.

    With a little help from those willing to give it, it can be a relatively easy process ensuring it's the right 'build' and can come built and ready to use (and while it is a little extra work to get the feedback from those 'in the know', it's normally more than worth it [even including the additional cost of the build from the supplier]).

    Argue may have been the wrong word, sorry.
    Yep, I agree with your second paragraph 100%.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭NewHillel


    This computer is excellent value for the general populace and will handle anything thrown at it. If you're interested in high end gaming you would want to change the graphics card. So what, still good value.

    The expandability is superb - just buy the portable drives and slot them in on the top. I don't know of any pc line with a similar flexibility. The icing on the cake is the three year guarantee.

    @johnny7
    This thread is not intended for specialists - be they computer nerds, or just hobbyists. For the general public this computer is extremely good value, a fact that your posts tend to obscure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,916 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    usb3, 3 year warranty, all parts the one colour , and self builders will have to tally up the cost of the time taken to build their own depending on their current hourly wage :D


    But, if you insist on building your own, at least follow this guide:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ashen1/ashen/menu/build/intro.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    NewHillel wrote: »
    This computer is excellent value for the general populace and will handle anything thrown at it. If you're interested in high end gaming you would want to change the graphics card. So what, still good value.

    The expandability is superb - just buy the portable drives and slot them in on the top. I don't know of any pc line with a similar flexibility. The icing on the cake is the three year guarantee.

    @johnny7
    This thread is not intended for specialists - be they computer nerds, or just hobbyists. For the general public this computer is extremely good value, a fact that your posts tend to obscure.

    Holy flip..

    Are there any other bricks n mortar competition for this PC right now? nope, its Ireland, they could charge 600 for this if they wanted..

    For the normal people who actually need a PC - they had the same PC sans USB3 a few months back for 400, but this is a fair bricks n mortar deal right now - so go for it you want a PC.

    For all the Bargain Hawks (who impulse buy stuff just cos its cheap, probably about 75% of the people here :) and nerds - no, this is not a bargain. Wait for the dell outlet to get up and running again. A budget PC should always be cheaper than the sum of its parts and this ain't :)

    ps i never suggested someone build it.. i just said it could be specced and built for cheaper.. which is true .. jaysus politics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 dazzareds


    Now although it's quite simple to build your own please be carefull and make sure you are ESD safe otherwise you could be forking out for another cpu!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    dazzareds wrote: »
    Now although it's quite simple to build your own please be carefull and make sure you are ESD safe otherwise you could be forking out for another cpu!!


    Funny, I never use a strap, and build/upgrade PC's constantly - never had a part fry on me from static.

    This was more an issue back in the 386 days TBH. Anyway, discussion for s different forum - and pretty sure this offer is well over!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Spazdarn


    I'd love to build my own pc with the help of the boards boys... but unfortunately a laptop is what I need... Had an aldi laptop for 3 years, woulda had it for more if I didn't spill booze on it :(


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