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Clocked and Written Off - twice! Buyers beware.

  • 02-02-2011 3:59pm
    #1
    Motorcheck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭


    Someone drew my attention to this Motorcheck report that was purchased online today. Written off twice and potentially clocked - buyer beware!

    Copy of advert here http://twitpic.com/3vsucv/full

    Copy of report here http://twitpic.com/3vsu5b/full


Comments

  • #2
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Twitpic ain't working for me.


  • #3
    Motorcheck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Motorcheck


    Looks like it's down. I'll put them on our blog server instead.

    Ad here: http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/02-Honda-Civic-Type-R..-car-must-go-for-sale-in-Cork-€4500-DoneDeal.ie-20110202.jpg

    Report here: http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/02C27458.jpg


  • #4
    lifer_sean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭lifer_sean


    I don't dispute the point Motorcheck is making. However, look at the mileage history: 26,800 miles on 30 jan 04, and 35,800 miles on 12 feb 04. 9000 miles in 13 days, or 700 miles a day for 13 days solid !!!!! Mileage history isn't always completly correct (although in this case the trend is clear).


  • #5
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    lifer_sean wrote: »
    I don't dispute the point Motorcheck is making. However, look at the mileage history: 26,800 miles on 30 jan 04, and 35,800 miles on 12 feb 04. 9000 miles in 13 days, or 700 miles a day for 13 days solid !!!!! Mileage history isn't always completly correct (although in this case the trend is clear).
    There could be an explanation if this was the only red flag. It's the fact that the car was written off as well that makes this so ridiculous.


  • #6
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    At €4500 for an EP3 it wouldn't take an online check to tell you something is wrong with it!


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  • #7
    Absurdum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    I just texted him to offer €1k for the clocked and written off Civic.
    The engine and bits might still be good.


  • #8
    itarumaa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭itarumaa


    Always check the background of the car, that is the lesson here. I almost walked to outstanding finance trap myself, when looking old Lexus cars.

    And no it does not necessary have to be motorcheck.ie service that you use :D


  • #9
    omb0wyn5ehpij9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    draffodx wrote: »
    At €4500 for an EP3 it wouldn't take an online check to tell you something is wrong with it!

    Irish EP3's are going for very very cheap at the moment, €4500 wouldn't be far off the price of one!
    Absurdum wrote: »
    I just texted him to offer €1k for the clocked and written off Civic.
    The engine and bits might still be good.

    Did he reply?!


  • #10
    Motorcheck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Motorcheck


    itarumaa wrote: »
    And no it does not necessary have to be motorcheck.ie service that you use :D

    Nope but we appreciate the business all the same ;)


  • #11
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Some very odd mileage history. 9000 miles in 13 days and 40,000 miles in 7 months. Wouldn't have liked to be putting in the petrol for those trips.


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  • #12
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Some very odd mileage history. 9000 miles in 13 days and 40,000 miles in 7 months. Wouldn't have liked to be putting in the petrol for those trips.

    Is it possible it was some sort of ex police car?

    I know Imprezas get used a good bit


  • #13
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    700 miles would not be a lot of driving in the UK with all the motorways.


  • #14
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Going by the mileage and the history I wonder is it a ringer thats had all identification transferred and ecus from the crashed car to a stolen one


  • #15
    robtri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    the car is not written off perse ... its only a cat C..... it is quite legally allowed be repaired and put back on the road...

    the mileage is another thing....


  • #16
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    robtri wrote: »
    the car is not written off perse ... its only a cat C..... it is quite legally allowed be repaired and put back on the road...

    the mileage is another thing....

    Yes its allowed back on the road but to be twice a cat C write off is not good. Cat C would mean extensive damage and would require an inspection in order to go back on the raod in the uk. In this regard, the most worrying thing is that there is no records after may 06 apart from another write off. I wonder did it ever pass its inspection after these writeoffs? I wouldnt touch it anyway.


  • #17
    robtri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    mickdw wrote: »
    Yes its allowed back on the road but to be twice a cat C write off is not good. Cat C would mean extensive damage and would require an inspection in order to go back on the raod in the uk. In this regard, the most worrying thing is that there is no records after may 06 apart from another write off. I wonder did it ever pass its inspection after these writeoffs? I wouldnt touch it anyway.


    just cause it not good it not wrong....
    seller not doing anything wrong on that part....


    the damage is reflected in the price...


  • #18
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    robtri wrote: »
    just cause it not good it not wrong....
    seller not doing anything wrong on that part....


    the damage is reflected in the price...

    It should be stated in the ad.

    Hence the ad has been removed


  • #19
    robtri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    It should be stated in the ad.

    Hence the ad has been removed

    why should it? is there a requirement for that???


  • #20
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    robtri wrote: »
    why should it? is there a requirement for that???

    Donedeal seems to think its not ok to advertise a clocked car at clocked mileages and also to sell a car which isn't honestly advertised regarding previous accident history.

    I really fail to see how you have a problem with that.


  • #21
    Ricardo G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    It should be stated in the ad.

    Hence the ad has been removed

    If every car that had a tip/crash had to state it in the add then i would suspect 50% of cars would be advertised that way !! Nothing wrong with a car being repaired so long as the job is up to scratch imo


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  • #22
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Ricardo G wrote: »
    If every car that had a tip/crash had to state it in the add then i would suspect 50% of cars would be advertised that way !! Nothing wrong with a car being repaired so long as the job is up to scratch imo

    TWICE Cat C'd is far from a dent or scratch let me assure you


  • #23
    robtri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    Donedeal seems to think its not ok to advertise a clocked car at clocked mileages and also to sell a car which isn't honestly advertised regarding previous accident history.

    I really fail to see how you have a problem with that.

    i quite agree with the mileage issue...

    how many cars on donedeal have been repaired????? should they all be pulled cause feck all ads mention any damages previously repaired .....
    size or extent of damage withstanding the ads are still all deciving buyers by your standards


  • #24
    Ricardo G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    TWICE Cat C'd is far from a dent or scratch let me assure you

    Tip/Crash NOT dent/scratch


  • #25
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    robtri wrote: »
    i quite agree with the mileage issue...

    how many cars on donedeal have been repaired????? should they all be pulled cause feck all ads mention any damages previously repaired .....

    I would be pretty pissed if i went to buy a car advertised as mint to find it had been in a smash.

    If it had a small bang and the panel was repaired fair enough just tell me.

    If it was that light a bang it wouldn't make a difference to me as long as it was repaired correctly. If it has been CAT C'd on a fairly new car it was most likely extensively damaged and needed large amounts of work to put it right including an engineers report.

    There was an M3 convertible a while back that was cat c'd and because of some eagle eyed people here it was spotted and reported and the ad amended.

    there is also the infamous case of the Cat C'd Mini convertible still driving around


  • #26
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Ricardo G wrote: »
    Tip/Crash NOT dent/scratch

    I'm not here to argue over words on a screen :rolleyes:


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