Racing shoes vs training shoe

Sklarker

Hi. I've bought yet another pair of Gel Kayanos. I really like these as I haven't had any shin pain since I switched to them. However, they're heavy-ish so my question is - it it the norm to have lighter, presumably less supportive, shoes for races only or does everyone race/train in the same ones?

menoscemo

Sklarker wrote: »

Hi. I've bought yet another pair of Gel Kayanos. I really like these as I haven't had any shin pain since I switched to them. However, they're heavy-ish so my question is - it it the norm to have lighter, presumably less supportive, shoes for races only or does everyone race/train in the same ones?

A lot of people definately race in something a bit lighter (myself included) but as a kayano wearer i'd say you still need a bit of support. This can be tough as most flats offer little support. I recently had a fair few niggles after wearing Lunar racers for a half marathon even though i am a fairly neutral runner.

I'd reccomend something like a pair of Asics DS Trainers for yourself. They are fairly light, the same brand that you're used to but still have decent support. If that goes well, you could even then consider the DS Racers.

sconhome

If you need the support of the Kayano there is not a whole lot of options without running the risk of creating injuries for yourself.

The beauty of the DS Trainer (which is 75g or so lighter than the Kayano per foot) is it has some of the support that the Kayano provides but the weight reduction comes from the reducing of the cushioning, memory foam etc in the tongue and heel cup. You could give yourself a chance to transition into it by mixing your training a bit, include it in speed work etc.

Another option is to try the Mizuno Alchemy which is 20g or so lighter per shoe but still giving you the support of the Kayano.

donothoponpop

I'd been doing 50-60 miles a week in Saucony Progrid Phoenix- they offered enough support for me (heel striker, pronator, large build). Bought a pair of DS trainer last year, weighed them when I got home, 700g for a pair of size 11's. Weighed my Saucony's- 700g for the pair. Brought back the DS trainers for another pair of the Saucony's instead.

TFBubendorfer

menoscemo wrote: »

A lot of people definately race in something a bit lighter

Same here - heavier shoes for training, light ones for racing

menoscemo wrote: »

I recently had a fair few niggles after wearing Lunar racers for a half marathon even though i am a fairly neutral runner.

I'd reccomend something like a pair of Asics DS Trainers for yourself. They are fairly light, the same brand that you're used to but still have decent support. If that goes well, you could even then consider the DS Racers.

Just goes to show we're all different. The DS Trainers messed up my feet with a succession of blisters. The Lunaracers, on the other hand, are my favourite racing shoes from 5K to 50 miles.

liamo123

I require some assistance in relation to the above thread if possible...I train and race wearing Asics gt2150's..Just wondering if there's other runners available similar to above that I might get either for training or racing...Tks

Krusty_Clown

Hi amphkingwest, any idea what the new Mizuno Precisions are like? Are they heavier than the old precisions (Precision 10)?

sconhome

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Hi amphkingwest, any idea what the new Mizuno Precisions are like? Are they heavier than the old precisions (Precision 10)?

Hi Krusty,
On paper there's a tiny difference with the 11's being 5g heavier.
A bit of a styling change to the upper and the inclusion of the new ap+ midsole compound are the main differences.

A super light shoe which might suit you is the Wave Ronin 3 neutral racer.

menoscemo

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

The DS Trainers messed up my feet with a succession of blisters.

I'm not a fan of the DS trainer for road races anymore either. I'm all into the nike Lunary cushioned feel (I mostly wear lunarglides) but the Ds trainers may suit the OP as he's used to Kayanos and they would have a similar feel?

menoscemo

liamo123 wrote: »

I require some assistance in relation to the above thread if possible...I train and race wearing Asics gt2150's..Just wondering if there's other runners available similar to above that I might get either for training or racing...Tks

Check out this chart:
http://www.brooksrunning.com/Brand-Comparison-Chart/brand_comparison_chart,default,pg.html

Sklarker

Cheers for the advice. Might take a look at the DS Trainers alright. I read that it can be good for injury prevention to have 2 different shoes as it varies pressure points etc. Hope they're cheaper than the Kayanos!