January Live Register

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January Live Register is out, showing a headline increase of 5,600 and a seasonally adjusted decrease of 6,900.

http://www.cso.ie/releasespublications/documents/labour_market/current/lreg.pdf

Following on from last months live register figures which showed the first year on year increase in LR figures in 18 months, the January figure has returned to the overall trend line. It would appear that last months figures were due to the weather with job hiring pushed into January, which showed the best month on month change since the big September figure.

The next couple of months should see the 2011 headline figure drop below the 2010 figure which would be the first year on year decrease in many years.

It's unlikely that actual employment has kept pace with the rate of change in the live register but we will have to wait until the end of March for the QNHS to confirm what the difference is.



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gurramok

I watched the RTE news tonight and for the first time ever on this story they pointed out that these decreases on the Live Register we've been hearing about on the odd occasions for the last 2 years are actually down to emigration and back to education. That's been proven by said CSO figures on employment.

RichardAnd

gurramok wrote: »

I watched the RTE news tonight and for the first time ever on this story they pointed out that these decreases on the Live Register we've been hearing about on the odd occasions for the last 2 years are actually down to emigration and back to education. That's been proven by said CSO figures on employment.

That's true but people emigrating and building lives for themselves over seas is still better than having them sit on the dole.

danbohan

RichardAnd wrote: »

That's true but people emigrating and building lives for themselves over seas is still better than having them sit on the dole.

yes it is , but whats sickening is our politicians will latch on to any reduction in jobless numbers and claim its because of their work and thats all the party's


emigration is a national disgrace , it was a national disgrace in the 50s , and the 80s and it should bring shame on every politician of every party since the foundation of this state that in 2011 they have given a large percentage of the irish population no option but to leave their country

ei.sdraob

danbohan wrote: »

yes it is , but whats sickening is our politicians will latch on to any reduction in jobless numbers and claim its because of their work and thats all the party's


emigration is a national disgrace , it was a national disgrace in the 50s , and the 80s and it should bring shame on every politician of every party since the foundation of this state that in 2011 they have given a large percentage of the irish population no option but to leave their country

Moral of the story, vote Fianna Fail

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edit: number of part time and occasional workers continues to increase up to 83,232, thats ~8% yoy rise
seems like this cloud has a gray lining

danbohan

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Moral of the story, vote Fianna Fail

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edit: number of part time and occasional workers continues to increase up to 83,232, thats ~8% yoy rise
seems like this cloud has a gray lining

Moral of the story, vote Fianna Fail

the unfortunate thing for Ireland and its people is that the alternatives would appear to be equally as inept, as they have been in the past


are those part time job increases due to part time work been introduced where full time existed before ? , if not its at least bit positive even if part time working in a country with a personal debt burden such as Ireland is hardly ideal

ei.sdraob

hmm one of the tables is interesting

while the ratio of males to females is 2:1
in the last year there has been 15x as many females joining the register (most of the upward movement in the year)

so yeh @danbohan seems the lads had enough and are emigrating en masse

danbohan

ei.sdraob wrote: »

hmm one of the tables is interesting

while the ratio of males to females is 2:1
in the last year there has been 15x as many females joining the register (most of the upward movement in the year)

so yeh @danbohan seems the lads had enough and are emigrating en masse

seems so , i know my local gaa club lost 5 players in january alone

Maj Malfunction

Emigration is a national disgrace, selling out economic soverignity to the EU/IMF is a national disgrace.

If your happy to be a disgrace and "better the devil you know!! the "other" parties are just as inept, then vote Fianna "Fail" (in the english sense of the word).

Don't worry if your lucky enough to have a job and pay your hard earned money over in high taxes or if your unlucky to find yourself out of work on the dole and unable to pay your mortgage and have to emigrate, if you vote Fianna Fail or don't vote at all you only have yourself to blame.

hinault

Maj Malfunction wrote: »

Emigration is a national disgrace, selling out economic soverignity to the EU/IMF is a national disgrace.

If your happy to be a disgrace and "better the devil you know!! the "other" parties are just as inept, then vote Fianna "Fail" (in the english sense of the word).

Don't worry if your lucky enough to have a job and pay your hard earned money over in high taxes or if your unlucky to find yourself out of work on the dole and unable to pay your mortgage and have to emigrate, if you vote Fianna Fail or don't vote at all you only have yourself to blame.

1950's, 1980's and 2000's.

The FF budget of 1977 played a major role in the economic devastation of the country in the 1980's which witnessed huge emigration levels.
And the policies of the FF government of the past 13 years has brought the country to the economic abyss is witnessing mass emigration.

No country that considers itself a first world economic power would tolerate the levels of emigration that this country does.
The cost of the loss of human/social capital, along with the loss of taxpayer funds used to help educate many of this emigrees is intolerable.

danbohan

Maj Malfunction wrote: »

Emigration is a national disgrace, selling out economic soverignity to the EU/IMF is a national disgrace.

If your happy to be a disgrace and "better the devil you know!! the "other" parties are just as inept, then vote Fianna "Fail" (in the english sense of the word).

Don't worry if your lucky enough to have a job and pay your hard earned money over in high taxes or if your unlucky to find yourself out of work on the dole and unable to pay your mortgage and have to emigrate, if you vote Fianna Fail or don't vote at all you only have yourself to blame.

i am no supporter of fianna fail but anybody that thinks that fine gael /labour or sinn fein will make any difference to this country in next 5 to 10 years is deluding themselves

but then it seems to be something the irish are good at

hinault

danbohan wrote: »

i am no supporter of fianna fail but anybody that thinks that fine gael /labour or sinn fein will make any difference to this country in next 5 to 10 years is deluding themselves

but then it seems to be something the irish are good at

So we can take it that you're voting for FF, Dan?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

RichardAnd

hinault wrote: »

1950's, 1980's and 2000's.

The FF budget of 1977 played a major role in the economic devastation of the country in the 1980's which witnessed huge emigration levels.
And the policies of the FF government of the past 13 years has brought the country to the economic abyss is witnessing mass emigration.

No country that considers itself a first world economic power would tolerate the levels of emigration that this country does.
The cost of the loss of human/social capital, along with the loss of taxpayer funds used to help educate many of this emigrees is intolerable.

But Ireland isn't an economic power, rather it's a little country on the edge of europe with virtually no resources and poor indiginious industry. The only thing that provided so many jobs over the last 10 years was an unsustainable boom built (no pun intended) on credit and a national obsession with owning property.

Emigration is a part of Ireland and I don't realy see a way where that will change.

hinault

RichardAnd wrote: »

But Ireland isn't an economic power, rather it's a little country on the edge of europe with virtually no resources and poor indiginious industry. The only thing that provided so many jobs over the last 10 years was an unsustainable boom built (no pun intended) on credit and a national obsession with owning property.

Emigration is a part of Ireland and I don't realy see a way where that will change.

Hmmmm.

I seem to recall a certain government minister saying that "Ireland had broken the economic mould" at the apex of that far off era called the Celtic Tiger.
Cliches like "world class economy", "we're the leading economy in Europe" were bandied about.

Bullseye1

No doubt this will be used by FF as evidence that there plans are working.....not. I'm sure if alot more people had not committed themselves to a mortgage they would be on the plane/boat too.

ei.sdraob

* Unemployment revised by a whole percentage point to 14.6%
* Employment down yet again
* half of the unemployed are now longterm
* public sector (ex semis) employment down to 350K from 365K

qhns

looks like someone was fudging figures before election :rolleyes:

hinault

ei.sdraob wrote: »

* Unemployment revised by a whole percentage point to 14.6%
* Employment down yet again
* half of the unemployed are now longterm
* public sector (ex semis) employment down to 350K from 365K

qhns

looks like someone was fudging figures before election :rolleyes:

FF only lie when their lips move.

The anecdotal evidence was there throughout Q3 and Q4 2010, ei.
Now it has been confirmed by the CSO.

I wonder where the corner Lenihan used to tell us about, is?