The Farmers

poppyvalley

Notice how quiet the farmers are? That's because they are doing so well with their exports. In another few months the cost of meat will go sky high, and they will just tell us to like it or lump it. They don't need us.

Mister men

Some things never change

ardmacha

In another few months the cost of meat will go sky high,

the question is whether most of this price goes to the supermarket or the farmer?

and they will just tell us to like it or lump it

You could mince it and make burgers.

poppyvalley

ardmacha wrote: »

the question is whether most of this price goes to the supermarket or the farmer?.

you can be sure it will be the farmer. It's pay-back time! And who will pay? Not the supermarkets who robbed them for years, but yours truly..the consumer as usual...the soft target

later12

poppyvalley wrote: »

Notice how quiet the farmers are?

Is that you're upset that the farmers are not complaining? Or that you're upset that they might be making a profit?

Well I heard one piece of news today that I'm sure will only delight you. Farmers who have been profiting from milk prices and increasing their productivity in recent times are set to be hit by a European 'superlevy' for producing too much milk for the market.
http://www.independent.ie/farming/superlevy-fines-may-sink-milk-producers-2518773.html

Oh and here's another one. High overheads and lack of credit for indigenous businesses have forced one of the country's biggest pig farmers out of business. Great, isn't it!
http://www.independent.ie/farming/one-of-countrys-biggest-pig-farmers-calls-it-quits-2490974.html

What a great thread, lets talk down profits and indigenous industry as we all relish in those two bad news stories.

Tipp Man

poppyvalley wrote: »

Notice how quiet the farmers are? That's because they are doing so well with their exports. In another few months the cost of meat will go sky high, and they will just tell us to like it or lump it. They don't need us.

Whats the point your trying to make??

danbohan

Tipp Man wrote: »

Whats the point your trying to make??

point ??? , what makes you think he has a point , its just more good old irish begrudgery !!!

R P McMurphy

Strange thread. Is all swings and roundabouts anyway, seems to be one section of the economy that is doing well so should be supported. I think there are changes afoot in 2013 in relatino to the single farm payment but I am not sure of the details. Will be back to complaining then so the OP should be relishing that

Rawhead

Reminds me of the story of the bucket of crabs.

fella walks past a pier and says to the fisherman
"looks like one of your crabs is escaping out of the bucket"

Fisherman just smiles and says
"don't worry, they're Irish crabs, the others will pull him back in"

ei.sdraob

Quiet? they where fairly vocal few weeks back about the now dead climate change bill which would have decimated farming on this island.

jmayo

poppyvalley wrote: »

Notice how quiet the farmers are? That's because they are doing so well with their exports. In another few months the cost of meat will go sky high, and they will just tell us to like it or lump it. They don't need us.

???

poppyvalley wrote: »

you can be sure it will be the farmer. It's pay-back time! And who will pay? Not the supermarkets who robbed them for years, but yours truly..the consumer as usual...the soft target

Big chip on shoulder I see. :rolleyes:

Here why don't you take a look at the price of diesel over the last couple of years.
Then work out how much more it now costs to run a 100hp tractor this year in comparison to last year or the year before.

Then work that into the increased prices.

Also while you are at it take a look at the prices that farmers have been getting over the last 15 years, compare it to what consumers have been paying in shops, to what non farm workers were earning and then tell us how farmers have been doing well.

jmayo

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Quiet? they where fairly vocal few weeks back about the now dead climate change bill which would have decimated farming on this island.

And why shouldn't they, the greens idea of farming is growing vegetables without any fertiliser or pesticides and rearing goats or kangaroos that don't fart.

RichardAnd

Most of the time it's the civil servants getting the gripe from angry and bitter old joe public. Nice to see some equal oppertuinity begrudgery going on

The_Thing

RichardAnd wrote: »

Most of the time it's the civil servants getting the gripe from angry and bitter old joe public. Nice to see some equal oppertuinity begrudgery going on

I'd love nothing more than to be able to spray the begrudgers with a tanker load of my pig slurry - it'd be no worse than the bile they spew themselves

Tora Bora

poppyvalley wrote: »

you can be sure it will be the farmer. It's pay-back time! And who will pay? Not the supermarkets who robbed them for years, but yours truly..the consumer as usual...the soft target

Have you ever once in your life, thought about what the primary producer (farmer) gets for the product you are suffing down your neck:mad:

I'm not going to tell you, but you could google it for yourself!
You just might learn something, worth thinking about.

And it goes from an Irish farmer producing anyrhing from meat, to dairy products to cereal, right through to farmers in Asia and South America producing coco, coffee, etc.

All farmers in all countries, share one thing in common!!! They all get an absolutley miniscule % of the consumer price for their products at the farm gate.

So get out the auld laptop, and do a spot of research over your next latte.

When you have learned something, come back and report your findings;)

poppyvalley

later10 wrote: »

Is that you're upset that the farmers are not complaining? Or that you're upset that they might be making a profit?

Well I heard one piece of news today that I'm sure will only delight you. Farmers who have been profiting from milk prices and increasing their productivity in recent times are set to be hit by a European 'superlevy' for producing too much milk for the market.
http://www.independent.ie/farming/superlevy-fines-may-sink-milk-producers-2518773.html

Oh and here's another one. High overheads and lack of credit for indigenous businesses have forced one of the country's biggest pig farmers out of business. Great, isn't it!
http://www.independent.ie/farming/one-of-countrys-biggest-pig-farmers-calls-it-quits-2490974.html

What a great thread, lets talk down profits and indigenous industry as we all relish in those two bad news stories.

Thank you Later after reading your reply, I promise not to utter another bad word about farmers! Sorry for the unwarranted rant